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« Reply #45 on: September 07, 2007, 12:54:33 PM »
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Yes, I made a mistake in my past by molesting a child, but I served my time to society and do not deserve the treatment and abuse of this site. I am no longer guilty and live my life free of my shame and I suggest you do the same. This is a hate site used for defaming law-abiding citizens and I will stay and tell people this. I was abused in prison and you don't see me whining about it all day on a forum.


I read your story of what happened to you in prison and it made me sick, but unlike you who committed a heinous crime most children in abusive facilities did nothing wrong. I agree you didn't deserve to be raped in prison, but keep in mind you were found guilty by your pe ers. Maybe you should start some sort of prison reform forum or somethingTheWho?
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« Reply #46 on: September 07, 2007, 01:05:35 PM »
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We should be focusing on those schools which are doing the most harm and the only way we can do this is to look at where the kids are being hurt.  You are wasting your time being pissed at the world.  Lets get these kids the help they need.

I am not getting paid, I am a concerned parent, like yourself who had a daughter attend a TBS and wilderness.

Stop saying "we".  YOU are not a part of anything WE are trying to do.  WE are trying to get these shitholes closed down.  YOU are trying to make money off them, IMO. YOU are a parent who shipped your kid off.  WE didn't do that.  I managed to raise two kids without having to hire someone else to do my job.    WE (most of us) are victims of this sick little industry.  YOU are a shill for that very industry.  IMO

So, fuck off and die asshole.


Look, Anne, you may want the industry shut down but there are many of us who do not.  You may work on getting that done, be my guest.  But the rest of us will be focusing on getting these kids the help they need whether that be “Shipping them offâ€
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« Reply #47 on: September 07, 2007, 01:10:23 PM »
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I have no need to talk about my past. If you find comfort in anger and victimhood, by all means, go ahead and continue with your tantrums. I choose to move on with my life. I think you would be better off doing the same.



Sorry Who- I can't just flip a  switch and forget about abuse that easily. Even you, a child molester, did not deserve to be abused while serving time in an institution.
Does that surprise you to hear me say that?
I want to keep everyone safe including adults which is why I work so tirelessly to shut down this unregulated industry. The abuse you suffered in prison is no different than what many kids suffer, try flexing those empathy muscles if you have them.
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« Reply #48 on: September 07, 2007, 01:18:22 PM »
thewho.....

there is a school nearby called the MLK jr. school. it's in a dominantly jewish neighborhood, but the kids who go there come down from harlem and and washington hights - the minority ghettos. the school is extremely violent. a few years ago, there was even a shooting, and they felt it was so commonplace that there was only a tiny little 1-inch column in the post about the rampage. there are stabbing and beatings on a daily basis. they even used to sell crack right outside untill they had a whole fleet of cops come it ever morning and afternoon. the kids at mlk are even a hazard to other schools - my old high school lets kids out 3 hours early on holloween because for years the traditional MLK holloween activity wasnt dressing up - but tracking down and robbing the private school rich kids.

these kids have barely enough money to eat. most of them live in tiny apartments with half a dozen sibling, most with single mothers. now, what would you propose for these kids? a TBS or RTC? who's gonna pay for it? you fucking rich people spend so much time worrying about your kids smoking pot and having sex you have absolutely no idea what kids that really DO need help look like. next time you consider sending your kid away because she called you names, or snuck out, or tried pot, think about all the kids at MLK who have to live in fear and poverty every day right smack in the middle of the richest neighborhood in manhattan.
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« Reply #49 on: September 07, 2007, 01:18:38 PM »
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Look, Anne, you may want the industry shut down but there are many of us who do not.  You may work on getting that done, be my guest.  But the rest of us will be focusing on getting these kids the help they need whether that be “Shipping them offâ€
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« Reply #50 on: September 07, 2007, 01:20:33 PM »
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N a big fuck you to all of you who are criticizing puck.
I know him personally and I have had experience with him and other staff at YCI.
ITS A FUCKING TRAGEDY THAT THE KID DIED. We got it. People die all the time. How are any of us to know that his parents would have gotten to him n time (not implying bad parenting in anyway)
but to take it out on one of the best staff that I had the pleasure to deal with there... and accusing him of cowardice it ridiculous.
The people who were there for the kids made it obvious they were and puck was one of them. There were always problems with understaffing and everything else he said...
SHIT HAPPENS IN PLACES... kids get thrown off horses and break necks. They slipe on ice and break bones... or fall over someone and break knees. The kids are responisble for their own damn experience in these places... the staff are responsible to make it as safe as possible. That still leaves room for shit to happen its life and none of us are gods.
And he does not get paid to sit here and take abuse... he get paid to try to help people see the potential they have


QFT again for anti-Who-related derailment.

I don't think he likes this post very much.
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« Reply #51 on: September 07, 2007, 01:24:20 PM »
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You may not have shipped you kids off, but it is evident that you didn’t serve too well as a role model for them with the way you handle conflict.  I couldn’t imagine my kids being exposed to language like that from their mother.  I would expect your kids didn’t turn out as well as you think (IMO).]
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The Who dares to judge Anne parenting skills and how she she serves as a role model to her children?
I'd certainly trust my kids around her and expose them to her "language" before I'd leave them near you, WHO, a man who molests children!
GMAFB.
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« Reply #52 on: September 07, 2007, 01:29:57 PM »
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You may not have shipped you kids off, but it is evident that you didn’t serve too well as a role model for them with the way you handle conflict.  I couldn’t imagine my kids being exposed to language like that from their mother.  I would expect your kids didn’t turn out as well as you think (IMO).

Now just a goddam minute there, Who... I cuss in front of my kids all the time, and they're fine.. I'm not proud of that, it's just the way I talk... this seems like a non-issue you bring up here.
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« Reply #53 on: September 07, 2007, 01:33:21 PM »
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thewho.....

there is a school nearby called the MLK jr. school. it's in a dominantly jewish neighborhood, but the kids who go there come down from harlem and and washington hights - the minority ghettos. the school is extremely violent. a few years ago, there was even a shooting, and they felt it was so commonplace that there was only a tiny little 1-inch column in the post about the rampage. there are stabbing and beatings on a daily basis. they even used to sell crack right outside untill they had a whole fleet of cops come it ever morning and afternoon. the kids at mlk are even a hazard to other schools - my old high school lets kids out 3 hours early on holloween because for years the traditional MLK holloween activity wasnt dressing up - but tracking down and robbing the private school rich kids.

these kids have barely enough money to eat. most of them live in tiny apartments with half a dozen sibling, most with single mothers. now, what would you propose for these kids? a TBS or RTC? who's gonna pay for it? you fucking rich people spend so much time worrying about your kids smoking pot and having sex you have absolutely no idea what kids that really DO need help look like. next time you consider sending your kid away because she called you names, or snuck out, or tried pot, think about all the kids at MLK who have to live in fear and poverty every day right smack in the middle of the richest neighborhood in manhattan.

Awesome post... keep 'em coming!
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« Reply #54 on: September 07, 2007, 01:34:45 PM »
Crack helps kids pay attention in school.
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« Reply #55 on: September 07, 2007, 01:36:08 PM »
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N a big fuck you to all of you who are criticizing puck.
I know him personally and I have had experience with him and other staff at YCI.
ITS A FUCKING TRAGEDY THAT THE KID DIED. We got it. People die all the time. How are any of us to know that his parents would have gotten to him n time (not implying bad parenting in anyway)
but to take it out on one of the best staff that I had the pleasure to deal with there... and accusing him of cowardice it ridiculous.
The people who were there for the kids made it obvious they were and puck was one of them. There were always problems with understaffing and everything else he said...
SHIT HAPPENS IN PLACES... kids get thrown off horses and break necks. They slipe on ice and break bones... or fall over someone and break knees. The kids are responisble for their own damn experience in these places... the staff are responsible to make it as safe as possible. That still leaves room for shit to happen its life and none of us are gods.
And he does not get paid to sit here and take abuse... he get paid to try to help people see the potential they have

QFT again for anti-Who-related derailment.

I don't think he likes this post very much.

You make a good point; perhaps we should disengage ourselves of any further dialogue concerning bad language, etc and focus on this some more....?
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« Reply #56 on: September 07, 2007, 01:36:53 PM »
What do people mean when they say "we"?
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« Reply #57 on: September 07, 2007, 01:41:58 PM »
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You have absolutely no idea about my life or my kids yet you feel completely justified in saying they didn't turn out well.


Hmmm….. me think you assumed first, as I recall when you said…â€
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« Reply #58 on: September 07, 2007, 01:44:24 PM »
I know where your money comes from.
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« Reply #59 on: September 07, 2007, 01:45:57 PM »
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Hmmm….. me think you assumed first, as I recall when you said…â€
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