How to help program staff quit their job faster!

[Anonymous]

I didn't come here for abuse

Why not? It's what you got paid for. It's our way of welcoming you, because it should be familiar territory. What's the problem?

The fact that you still take things like 'level drops' as if they were valid in the least means that you have a long, hard road of realization ahead.

[Anonymous]

N a big fuck you to all of you who are criticizing puck.
I know him personally and I have had experience with him and other staff at YCI.
ITS A FUCKING TRAGEDY THAT THE KID DIED. We got it. People die all the time. How are any of us to know that his parents would have gotten to him n time (not implying bad parenting in anyway)
but to take it out on one of the best staff that I had the pleasure to deal with there... and accusing him of cowardice it ridiculous.
The people who were there for the kids made it obvious they were and puck was one of them. There were always problems with understaffing and everything else he said...
SHIT HAPPENS IN PLACES... kids get thrown off horses and break necks. They slipe on ice and break bones... or fall over someone and break knees. The kids are responisble for their own damn experience in these places... the staff are responsible to make it as safe as possible. That still leaves room for shit to happen its life and none of us are gods.
And he does not get paid to sit here and take abuse... he get paid to try to help people see the potential they have

[Anonymous]

If there was any post on Fornits that would decisively push the parents in the "oh HELL NO" direction, the above post is it.

Read it thoroughly. Read the subtext. It'll tell you far more than you ever wanted to know.

[Anonymous]

People die all the time

Yes, too many in this industry, with 0 accountablity.

There were always problems with understaffing

With the amount of money per child, if Staff were paid a decent wage and
they added more staff, and were not so greedy, the youth would not be dieing would they.

kids get thrown off horses and break necks. They slipe on ice and break bones... or fall over someone and break knees.

Yeah and kids get sick and beg for help, and are accused of being liers and manipulatiors, and they die.  Ps. that is not a accident...it is negligence, and inhuman treatment.

The kids are responisble for their own damn experience in these places... the staff are responsible to make it as safe

No it is not the kids responsiblity, it is the staff, and the people who are in charge of the welfare of the kid, in which the parents have entrusted them to do.

... he get paid to try to help people

so true, not play xbox.

[Anonymous]

SHIT HAPPENS IN PLACES...

Imagine a greiving parent asking the program staff how on earth did my son die here? Now imagine a program employee saying something like "shit happens..."

[Froderik]

SHIT HAPPENS IN PLACES...

Imagine a greiving parent asking the program staff how on earth did my son die here? Now imagine a program employee saying something like "shit happens..."

This is truly appalling. I can't believe that post was for real. C'mon, someone tell me they posted as guest to stir up shit..
TSW? Niles? Anyone?

[Che Gookin]

SHIT HAPPENS IN PLACES...

Imagine a greiving parent asking the program staff how on earth did my son die here? Now imagine a program employee saying something like "shit happens..."

This is truly appalling. I can't believe that post was for real. C'mon, someone tell me they posted as guest to stir up shit..
TSW? Niles? Anyone?

 :-? nope not me dude.

[Anonymous]

Would of been a good question to ask before sending child away.

[TheWho]

This is truly appalling. I can't believe that post was for real….

Com’on people, we have all heard a lot more harsher things said as a reality check here on fornits.  But it usually directed towards parents or programmies.

Bottom line is choosing a private boarding school or Wilderness camp for an at-risk child is far safer than leaving them in the public sector.  This is not my opinion…… it is fact.  The numbers show this overwhelmingly, it is just difficult for many to swallow here.

Someone posted earlier that in the span of 4 decades 536 kids died in the industry
“536


Restraint: 236
Dehydration: 144
Beating: 98
Suicide: 38â€

[Anne Bonney]

Who you are one sick mother fucker.  Why are you here?  How much money are YOU making off this sick little industry.  What interest do YOU have in seeing it grow?

At least have the BALLS to let us all know what the hell you're here for.  And don't give me that shit about facts, because you wouldn 't know one if it bit you in the ass.  


WHY ARE YOU HERE???

[Anonymous]

N a big fuck you to all of you who are criticizing puck.
I know him personally and I have had experience with him and other staff at YCI.
ITS A FUCKING TRAGEDY THAT THE KID DIED. We got it. People die all the time. How are any of us to know that his parents would have gotten to him n time (not implying bad parenting in anyway)
but to take it out on one of the best staff that I had the pleasure to deal with there... and accusing him of cowardice it ridiculous.
The people who were there for the kids made it obvious they were and puck was one of them. There were always problems with understaffing and everything else he said...
SHIT HAPPENS IN PLACES... kids get thrown off horses and break necks. They slipe on ice and break bones... or fall over someone and break knees. The kids are responisble for their own damn experience in these places... the staff are responsible to make it as safe as possible. That still leaves room for shit to happen its life and none of us are gods.
And he does not get paid to sit here and take abuse... he get paid to try to help people see the potential they have

QFT / newpage anti-whospam

[Deborah]

This is truly appalling. I can't believe that post was for real….

Com’on people, we have all heard a lot more harsher things said as a reality check here on fornits.  But it usually directed towards parents or programmies.

Bottom line is choosing a private boarding school or Wilderness camp for an at-risk child is far safer than leaving them in the public sector.  This is not my opinion…… it is fact.  The numbers show this overwhelmingly, it is just difficult for many to swallow here.

Someone posted earlier that in the span of 4 decades 536 kids died in the industry
“536


Restraint: 236
Dehydration: 144
Beating: 98
Suicide: 38â€

[Anonymous]

theWho admitted in his earlier posts he spent time in jail for sexually molesting a child before he became a father. He thought he would get sympathy and this was some sort of child molestor site, now he backtracking.

[TheWho]

Who you are one sick mother fucker.  Why are you here?  How much money are YOU making off this sick little industry.  What interest do YOU have in seeing it grow?

At least have the BALLS to let us all know what the hell you're here for.  And don't give me that shit about facts, because you wouldn 't know one if it bit you in the ass.  


WHY ARE YOU HERE???

If my son or daughter was hurt by the car industry (car accident).  I may be right out there like you, rattling cages, trying to get people to see the cars need better equipment.  Trying to shut down the industry, probably not, but I would want to see safety changes occur.

Its important to lay out all the facts and take a look at them.  If the industry as a whole keeps kids safe from harming themselves or being murdered we should let parents know this.  It could save lives.  I understand that some of these places can be abusive or have abusive people working there.  This is a major problem but lets not throw the good out with the bad.

We should be focusing on those schools which are doing the most harm and the only way we can do this is to look at where the kids are being hurt.  You are wasting your time being pissed at the world.  Lets get these kids the help they need.

I am not getting paid, I am a concerned parent, like yourself who had a daughter attend a TBS and wilderness.

[Anne Bonney]

We should be focusing on those schools which are doing the most harm and the only way we can do this is to look at where the kids are being hurt.  You are wasting your time being pissed at the world.  Lets get these kids the help they need.

I am not getting paid, I am a concerned parent, like yourself who had a daughter attend a TBS and wilderness.

Stop saying "we".  YOU are not a part of anything WE are trying to do.  WE are trying to get these shitholes closed down.  YOU are trying to make money off them, IMO. YOU are a parent who shipped your kid off.  WE didn't do that.  I managed to raise two kids without having to hire someone else to do my job.    WE (most of us) are victims of this sick little industry.  YOU are a shill for that very industry.  IMO

So, fuck off and die asshole.