How to help program staff quit their job faster!

[Anonymous]

Can someone post a picture if you find one?

Found it!

 :rofl:

[webdiva]

Can someone post a picture if you find one?

Found it!

oh my fucking god. k this image is now ingrained in my brain for life. there is no escape. thank you very much! lol jesus.

[Anonymous]

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It was your fault that you got busted up. Everything that happens on shift in your unit or group or whatever you call it at Youthcare is completely your responsibility.

I worked with kids who I know where far more violent and was never attacked directly. I had to dodge a few punches, a shovel, numerous rocks, branches, dirt clods, and other crap while breaking fights up, but never was I attacked.

Accept the fact that the attack on you more than likely could have been prevented had you had the experience or the training, but stop insinuating that it wasn't your responsibility.

It makes you sound like a whining cunt.

If that is how you roll then go post on Cafety.[/quote]

My point is that I wasn't on shift - there were only two staff on-shift to supervise the 14 students.  I was there finishing up a medical report from the previous shift and taking care of the phone calls to deal with the level drop of this particular student.  

As for my experience - I've worked many places and delt with many violent kids.  Usually when a staff or another student is attacked it is usually a lack of staff in place, as was the case here.

Maybe you should accept the fact that this person chose to sneak up on someone and throw the punches.  I sure didn't swing his fist for him.  I have no problem accepting responsibility for things I do.

[Anonymous]

Puck:
If you are a real ex-staffer; then I think your comments about under-staffing are valid and important.  Especially for Pitbull Mom, who is searching for answers to why her son did not receive emergency medical care; and was allowed to die, for what is apparently medical negligence.

If your observations are correct: and the night staff possibly did not check on sick children as was required -every 15 minutes, as you stated- then perhaps; you could come forward and offer evidence on Pitbull's behalf?

Your observations and experience seems to be what this mother is looking for to answer the question: why her son was denied emergency medical care.
Was it a question of under-staffing? Lack of training?  Lack of supervision of staff?
Perhaps you can communicate with Pitbull Mom by Private Message.
Personally, I detest these programs, and the lack of oversight by Utah officials, and what I assume will be a cover-up of this boy's death.
But I respect your offer to discuss this facility from your point of view as a staff worker.

I forgot to sign in.  Joyce Harris

:tup:

As I mentioned before, I am more than willing to share any experiences or insights I have that would help someone out.  These personal attacks on me just because I happened to work at a RTC are pointless - you know nothing about me yet you judge me?  

Pitbull Mom, or anyone else: if there is information or anything else I can help with please contact me, I'll do whatever I can to help you out.

[Che Gookin]

My point is that I wasn't on shift - there were only two staff on-shift to supervise the 14 students. I was there finishing up a medical report from the previous shift and taking care of the phone calls to deal with the level drop of this particular student.

As for my experience - I've worked many places and delt with many violent kids. Usually when a staff or another student is attacked it is usually a lack of staff in place, as was the case here.

Maybe you should accept the fact that this person chose to sneak up on someone and throw the punches. I sure didn't swing his fist for him. I have no problem accepting responsibility for things I do.

Your story appears to be changing with time. Interesting.

[Anonymous]

Puck:
If you are a real ex-staffer; then I think your comments about under-staffing are valid and important.  Especially for Pitbull Mom, who is searching for answers to why her son did not receive emergency medical care; and was allowed to die, for what is apparently medical negligence.

If your observations are correct: and the night staff possibly did not check on sick children as was required -every 15 minutes, as you stated- then perhaps; you could come forward and offer evidence on Pitbull's behalf?

Your observations and experience seems to be what this mother is looking for to answer the question: why her son was denied emergency medical care.
Was it a question of under-staffing? Lack of training?  Lack of supervision of staff?
Perhaps you can communicate with Pitbull Mom by Private Message.
Personally, I detest these programs, and the lack of oversight by Utah officials, and what I assume will be a cover-up of this boy's death.
But I respect your offer to discuss this facility from your point of view as a staff worker.

I forgot to sign in.  Joyce Harris

:tup:

As I mentioned before, I am more than willing to share any experiences or insights I have that would help someone out.  These personal attacks on me just because I happened to work at a RTC are pointless - you know nothing about me yet you judge me?  

Pitbull Mom, or anyone else: if there is information or anything else I can help with please contact me, I'll do whatever I can to help you out.

Joyce brings up some good points.  Are you going to address them or continue to ignore them?

[Anonymous]

Pitbull Mom, or anyone else: if there is information or anything else I can help with please contact me, I'll do whatever I can to help you out.

I need to know why you quit your job you really could of changed the industry from the inside. I hate to see another quitter, thanks for nothing.

[Anonymous]

Your story appears to be changing with time. Interesting.[/quote]

In what way is my story changing?  

What I find interesting is the attacks on me.  I guess I am unsure as to the purpose of this site.  I thought it was a place to post concerns about treatment programs and ideas on how to change them or hold them accountable.  

I came here to post my experiences not as a ploy to gain sympathy but to provide a personal point of view on problems I have seen while working at an RTC.  I've used some of what I have read here to contact the state AG who placed me in contact with the DHS licensing team.  Hopefully someone there will pay attention to what I have to say - the local media and 'JayCo' sure didn't seem interested in my complaints.

I didn't come here for abuse so this is it.  I'm sure one of you will post one of your 'faggot' pictures or call me a fucking crybaby or something equally pointless.  What do you hope to accomplish by this - How are you promoting change, why would any other former or current staff want to expose themselves to this?  To me you're equating yourself with the pricks I used to work for.

If you have positive suggestions on how I can help or have any real questions about my experiences at Youth Care, Discovery Academy, or ARTEC, then please send me a message and I'll respond.

[Anonymous]

Your story appears to be changing with time. Interesting.[/quote]

In what way is my story changing?  

What I find interesting is the attacks on me.  I guess I am unsure as to the purpose of this site.  I thought it was a place to post concerns about treatment programs and ideas on how to change them or hold them accountable.  

I came here to post my experiences not as a ploy to gain sympathy but to provide a personal point of view on problems I have seen while working at an RTC.  I've used some of what I have read here to contact the state AG who placed me in contact with the DHS licensing team.  Hopefully someone there will pay attention to what I have to say - the local media and 'JayCo' sure didn't seem interested in my complaints.

I didn't come here for abuse so this is it.  I'm sure one of you will post one of your 'faggot' pictures or call me a fucking crybaby or something equally pointless.  What do you hope to accomplish by this - How are you promoting change, why would any other former or current staff want to expose themselves to this?  To me you're equating yourself with the pricks I used to work for.

If you have positive suggestions on how I can help or have any real questions about my experiences at Youth Care, Discovery Academy, or ARTEC, then please send me a message and I'll respond.

[Anonymous]

If you have positive suggestions on how I can help

Turn yourself over to Science. We must study the stupidity that leads to program staff.

[puck]

Pitbull Mom, or anyone else: if there is information or anything else I can help with please contact me, I'll do whatever I can to help you out.

I need to know why you quit your job you really could of changed the industry from the inside. I hate to see another quitter, thanks for nothing.

Why did I quit my job?  I was constantly being 'written up' for questioning my supervisors, tired of working un-safe under-staffed shifts, worried that something like this would happen and not knowing how I would deal with a student that I knew (many of who I was pretty close too - some still keep in contact) was seriously injured or dead.  You can call me a coward or whatever, I don't care.  I had to take care of my life, otherwise what good would I be at helping others?

Thanks for nothing?  You're welcome.  Thanks for judging me without even knowing me.

[Anonymous]

What I find interesting is the attacks on me.  I guess I am unsure as to the purpose of this site.  I thought it was a place to post concerns about treatment programs and ideas on how to change them or hold them accountable.  

I came here to post my experiences not as a ploy to gain sympathy but to provide a personal point of view on problems I have seen while working at an RTC.  I've used some of what I have read here to contact the state AG who placed me in contact with the DHS licensing team.  Hopefully someone there will pay attention to what I have to say - the local media and 'JayCo' sure didn't seem interested in my complaints.

I didn't come here for abuse so this is it.  I'm sure one of you will post one of your 'faggot' pictures or call me a fucking crybaby or something equally pointless.  What do you hope to accomplish by this - How are you promoting change, why would any other former or current staff want to expose themselves to this?  To me you're equating yourself with the pricks I used to work for.

If you have positive suggestions on how I can help or have any real questions about my experiences at Youth Care, Discovery Academy, or ARTEC, then please send me a message and I'll respond.

Think of who you're dealing with here.  Most of us are victims of some program or another.  Deal with what's thrown at you.  The kids have no choice, you can leave any time.

Personally, I'd like to see all forms of forced or coerced therapy wiped off the map.  I'd like to see all TBS, Wilderness Camps, Boot Camps, RTCs and the rest shut down and the executives held accountable for the abuses done in the name of treatment.

But that's just me.

[Anonymous]

Thanks for judging me without even knowing me.

How do you think the kids feel?

[Anonymous]

Pitbull Mom, or anyone else: if there is information or anything else I can help with please contact me, I'll do whatever I can to help you out.

I need to know why you quit your job you really could of changed the industry from the inside. I hate to see another quitter, thanks for nothing.

Why did I quit my job?  I was constantly being 'written up' for questioning my supervisors, tired of working un-safe under-staffed shifts, worried that something like this would happen and not knowing how I would deal with a student that I knew (many of who I was pretty close too - some still keep in contact) was seriously injured or dead.  You can call me a coward or whatever, I don't care.  I had to take care of my life, otherwise what good would I be at helping others?

Thanks for nothing?  You're welcome.  Thanks for judging me without even knowing me.

You could of at least documented these things before leaving, for what sound like selfish reasons. :roll:

Now you are just another voice in this debate, our word as parents and our abused children, against the program's.

We need proof beyond testimony at this point. Otherwise they can paint you as disgruntled staff, which frankly, you come across as anyways.

Just A Program Mom

[puck]

Puck:
If you are a real ex-staffer; then I think your comments about under-staffing are valid and important.  Especially for Pitbull Mom, who is searching for answers to why her son did not receive emergency medical care; and was allowed to die, for what is apparently medical negligence.

If your observations are correct: and the night staff possibly did not check on sick children as was required -every 15 minutes, as you stated- then perhaps; you could come forward and offer evidence on Pitbull's behalf?

Your observations and experience seems to be what this mother is looking for to answer the question: why her son was denied emergency medical care.
Was it a question of under-staffing? Lack of training?  Lack of supervision of staff?
Perhaps you can communicate with Pitbull Mom by Private Message.
Personally, I detest these programs, and the lack of oversight by Utah officials, and what I assume will be a cover-up of this boy's death.
But I respect your offer to discuss this facility from your point of view as a staff worker.

I forgot to sign in.  Joyce Harris

:tup:

Joyce brings up some good points.  Are you going to address them or continue to ignore them?

Sorry, didn't mean to ignore any points.  Yes, I believe that this incident was a result of the following: understaffing (two graveyard staff in a house with up to 15 kids, trying to make meals for the next day, watching movies, etc...), a lack of training (with up to 45 students on campus at a time I feel a medical staff should be on shift 24/7), and a lack of supervision (I knew supervisors that wouldn't go in because they might catch one of their staff doing something wrong and then they'd have to do something about it.)

Pitbull mom has contacted me and I willingly provided her my name and contact info.