Should Sue related threads get moved to PURE/sue/caca forum?

[Froderik]

ELEVEN goddam pages debating whether or not to move the Sue threads??

What the f u c k???  

Is it really that difficult to reach a decision? :rofl:

[Anonymous]

I'm with FROD - WTF?

Move the threads to the PURE/CAICA Bullshit Forum.  Organize that forum into sub-categories and assign a moderator just to file the daily threads/posts into the appropriate folder.  Ok, I'm kidding about that but maybe there is someone willing to take on the task?  It's only going to get more intense with the Bock Appeal and the Green Trial, both of which are related to Scheff/PURE too.  CAICA appears to be laying low but I suspect there too, things may start a'hoppin!!

The info is important enough to be organized into some sort of format, otherwise it's PURE CHAOS!

I vote move 'em outta here.

One sticky thread on TT that's about PURE - no posting allowed - just telling folks to go to the PURE/CAICA forum.

[Antigen]

ELEVEN goddam pages debating whether or not to move the Sue threads??

What the f u c k???  

Is it really that difficult to reach a decision? :rofl:

Well yeah, sort of. It did take a long time, some experimentation and discussion to figure out what the policy should be. I don't mind discussing it again if anybody's got new ideas. And, after reading it all, it seems that the people invoking the mighty awesome power of admin are pretty new to fornits. Really I'm thinking about making this thread a sticky over in Web Forum Hosting and link to it in the FAQ. Far as I know, there have been no admin requests for threads to be moved yet. Now I guess I should go and check to make sure it's pretty easy for a new friend to find admin contact info.....

God, but I am a slacker sometimes!

[psy]

How do people feel about moving suesue threads to the pure/caca forum AFTER they drop off page 1 of the TTI forum (which means, essentially, they won't exist).

I can still leave a "ghost copy" on the tti forum, which will redirect people to that thread on the PURE / CACA forum.  Ginger has done this with a number of my Benchmark threads.

Come to think of it, that would solve the problem. But will it port to SMF?

Can't imagine not.  As it is there are several ghosts lying around that I know of.  We'll have to read up on supported features of SMF.

[TheWho]

ELEVEN goddam pages debating whether or not to move the Sue threads??

What the f u c k???  

Is it really that difficult to reach a decision? :rofl:

It may seem like a small issue but it has wide ramifications and if it is important enough to the posters that the posts need to stay in TTI or if they need to be cleaned up and moved to a more appropriate forum then now is the time to discuss it.  After decisions like this are made they typically become boilerplate and future decisions to move or not move posts may not be discussed, they may use the results of this pole in the interest to save time.  You may be setting a precedence here.
So let your voice be heard.  Ginger is allowing you to be part of the future of this forum and part of the decision process on how it is to be run, take advantage, its an important issue.

[hanzomon4]

I for one accept our new overlord TheWho....   :rofl:

[Froderik]

ELEVEN goddam pages debating whether or not to move the Sue threads??

What the f u c k???  

Is it really that difficult to reach a decision? :rofl:

It may seem like a small issue but it has wide ramifications and if it is important enough to the posters that the posts need to stay in TTI or if they need to be cleaned up and moved to a more appropriate forum then now is the time to discuss it.  After decisions like this are made they typically become boilerplate and future decisions to move or not move posts may not be discussed, they may use the results of this pole in the interest to save time.  You may be setting a precedence here.
So let your voice be heard.  Ginger is allowing you to be part of the future of this forum and part of the decision process on how it is to be run, take advantage, its an important issue.

After much consideration I have to say that I agree, Who...in fact, I think this should be discussed for at least 20... nay, 30 more pages before we even think about deciding whether to move them or not... God forbid we make any hasty action concerning this because once it's done, there's no turning back!! :scared:

[Anne Bonney]

I for one accept our new overlord TheWho....   :rofl:

You Farkin' Farker!!!!   :flame:  



::roflmao::  ::roflmao::  ::roflmao::  :wave:

[Anne Bonney]

I think this ended up a duplicate due to my intoxication.


Thanks.

 ::seg::  ::bandit::  ::cheers::

[TheWho]

Fornits has 4,491 Registered members; and only 9 have voted on this issue. So, who seems to really bothered one way or the other?

Just looking at some quick numbers, typically, on average, only 45% of the total people who bother to get user names post one or more times.  So out of 4,491 user names logged here on fornits 2,021 of them posted one or more times (the rest never even bothered to post under their user names).  People come and go and you can expect that inside of a 12 month window, if you took a snap shot, you will see 10% of those people will be active, which is 202 posters.  Of these 202 posters 2-3 % of them would be considered frequent posters, or better defined as posters who would log in often enough to be able to even see the poll, which has only been up and active for 1 day.  So we can expect to see 40 - 60 registered posters post here within a 2 week to 30 day period.  So if we take the mean and say 50 posters are exposed to this poll, assuming evey poster stops in to TTI.
If the poll were to run its course of 30 days max (2 weeks min), a good on-line poll response rate for college campuses, to site an example, is around 50 – 80%.  So to be in the ball park we should end up expecting  25 – 40 votes if the poll were opened for 30 days.  So it seems the poll is getting enormous visibility and a good response seeing the count is 12 people in the first 24 hours.  
Note :  This doesn’t include guest posters, which is a whole different population study and is difficult to predict accurately.

I know this is probably boring to some but I thought I would address the issue and put it in perspective for those who were wondering why it seemed not many were voting.

[Froderik]

my esteemed colleague

:rofl: ::bwahaha:: :rofl:

[Anne Bonney]

my esteemed colleague :rofl:  ::bwahaha::  :rofl:

Aww, ya got me before I could polish it.







Upon further review and consideration, and copious amounts of TBPITW, I must concur with my esteemed colleague in this most important matter.


Thank you Counselor, for your much needed interjection. I remain


Sincerely,




Anne Mutha-Fucking-Bonney





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[psy]

Fornits has 4,491 Registered members; and only 9 have voted on this issue. So, who seems to really bothered one way or the other?

Just looking at some quick numbers, typically, on average, only 45% of the total people who bother to get user names post one or more times.  So out of 4,491 user names logged here on fornits 2,021 of them posted one or more times (the rest never even bothered to post under their user names).  People come and go and you can expect that inside of a 12 month window, if you took a snap shot, you will see 10% of those people will be active, which is 202 posters.  Of these 202 posters 2-3 % of them would be considered frequent posters, or better defined as posters who would log in often enough to be able to even see the poll, which has only been up and active for 1 day.  So we can expect to see 40 - 60 registered posters post here within a 2 week to 30 day period.  So if we take the mean and say 50 posters are exposed to this poll, assuming evey poster stops in to TTI.
If the poll were to run its course of 30 days max (2 weeks min), a good on-line poll response rate for college campuses, to site an example, is around 50 – 80%.  So to be in the ball park we should end up expecting  25 – 40 votes if the poll were opened for 30 days.  So it seems the poll is getting enormous visibility and a good response seeing the count is 12 people in the first 24 hours.

Assuming the vote/time curve is linear, yes...  However I would expect the vote-rate to drop off as it usually does.  I suspect that regular voters are a lot more likely to have an opinion on the matter than those who are new to the forum, who would probably be unlikely to vote on an issue they are not familiar with.

Note :  This doesn’t include guest posters, which is a whole different population study and is difficult to predict accurately.

I know this is probably boring to some but I thought I would address the issue and put it in perspective for those who were wondering why it seemed not many were voting.

Ok.  Riddle me this: Why do more people vote on American Idol than on the presidential elections?  In my opinion: apathy.  Some may not really care one way or the other and decide to abstain.  What it tells me is that (among other things) Americans in general mostly feel that the difference between presidential candidates, and the effect on their lives, is less than that of a TV program.

In any case, Ginger has decided the issue (contact the OP and ask).  However, If we decide to move to phpBB3 and not SMF, threads can get "tagged" with keywords, and threads can be in multiple categories(forums) at once.

[Antigen]

However, If we decide to move to phpBB3 and not SMF, threads can get "tagged" with keywords, and threads can be in multiple categories(forums) at once.

SMF won't do that? :-(

[TheWho]

Assuming the vote/time curve is linear, yes... However I would expect the vote-rate to drop off as it usually does. I suspect that regular voters are a lot more likely to have an opinion on the matter than those who are new to the forum, who would probably be unlikely to vote on an issue they are not familiar with.

True, guess I overlooked that and didn’t factor that in.  At 12 votes per day (360 votes/ month) it would exceed the population.  I didn’t consider the interest/disinterest of new comers to the topic.

Ok. Riddle me this: Why do more people vote on American Idol than on the presidential elections? In my opinion: apathy. Some may not really care one way or the other and decide to abstain. What it tells me is that (among other things) Americans in general mostly feel that the difference between presidential candidates, and the effect on their lives, is less than that of a TV program.

Not sure about American idol, but I believe it is because people (mostly young) want to be part of anything that is controversial and will have an immediate result or will affect them personally.  Some of the more successful College campus surveys (on-line intranet) experience 80 – 90% response rates, which is huge.  Mail-out paper surveys are lucky to get 35 – 45 %.  Presidential elections experience 50 – 60% turn out.  If you look at all the surveys the college campus ones have better marketing towards their target audience with questions like “Do you think condoms should be distributed free on campus?â€