The TRUTH about AJAX13 and his attacks on the AARC program

[Anonymous]

Hello Everyone,

I wanted to point out some glaring truths about "Ajax13", a member on here who has been posting quite a bit lately.

Ajax13 has a girlfriend who went through the AARC program quite some time ago, roughly 10 years or so. Ajax has never been in the doors of AARC, has never looked any of the staff in the face and is unaware of how AARC operates.

Ajax works on a drilling rig as a floor hand for a drilling company in Alberta. If our in house statistics serve me correctly, Ajax doesn't even have a Grade 12 diploma.

Not only is he completely unqualified to make any sort of doctoral assessment as to the operational methods of AARC, but he is lying blatantly and spreading mis-truths and unfounded propaganda. He is; in many ways, like a muslim extremist if you think about it.

Back to Ajax's reason for being here: "Special Lady Friend", another user here who feels as though she had a rough time in the AARC program.

AARC is not an easy program. It is a no bull long term drug and alcohol treatment facility that utilizes the 12 step program of Alcoholics Anonymous as their preferred delivery method.

Ajax calls AARC a cult. I am a graduate of 10 years, have remained clean and sober for 11 years, and not once has AARC told me that if "I left the cult, I would die". No, I am not required to show up there ever. When I do decide to drop in, they greet me nicely and we talk like normal human beings.. I talk to some of the new kids in there, answer some questions and enjoy seeing the changes that happen there.

Ajax has never been inside the building. Ajax, doesn't have any family that has gone through there, he has absolutely NO relation to AARC whatsoever. He speculates, and clearly takes out of context, the words of his rather timid sounding girlfriend who went through almost 11 years ago.

Ajax doesn't even have EXPERIENCE to back up his claims. He is missing TWO CRITICAL COMPONENTS now, EXPERIENCE, and EDUCATION.

So since Ajax has neither of these, why would any of you listen to him? I'm admittedly an asshole, and I will give you the truth about AARC, straight from my mouth.. what I did like, what I didn't like and where I am now in my life.

Ajax, I find it reprehensible that you are taking advantage of a girl who is in pain from some possible past traumatic experiences. You are a pathetic excuse for a boyfriend and you are a pathetic excuse for a man.

You aren't helping her, you are hindering her growth, and when she reads this, she will know exactly what it is I am talking about.

"Special Lady Friend" let me know if you need ways of getting out of that abusive relationship you are in. I've studied on them and I would be able to offer you some tactical advice on removing that guy from your life.

[Anne Bonney]

Hello Everyone,

I wanted to point out some glaring truths about "Ajax13", a member on here who has been posting quite a bit lately.

Well, if you're going to do that, let's hear about YOU and who YOU are and what YOUR motivations are for defending a Straight descendant program

Ajax13 has a girlfriend who went through the AARC program quite some time ago, roughly 10 years or so. Ajax has never been in the doors of AARC, has never looked any of the staff in the face and is unaware of how AARC operates.

Do tell then, do tell.

Ajax works on a drilling rig as a floor hand for a drilling company in Alberta. If our in house statistics serve me correctly, Ajax doesn't even have a Grade 12 diploma.

And your point would be?

Not only is he completely unqualified to make any sort of doctoral assessment as to the operational methods of AARC, but he is lying blatantly and spreading mis-truths and unfounded propaganda. He is; in many ways, like a muslim extremist if you think about it.

Back to Ajax's reason for being here: "Special Lady Friend", another user here who feels as though she had a rough time in the AARC program.

AARC is not an easy program. It is a no bull long term drug and alcohol treatment facility that utilizes the 12 step program of Alcoholics Anonymous as their preferred delivery method.

AARC is directly descended from Straight and Miller Newton.  We know much more about your program than you think shithead.

Ajax calls AARC a cult. I am a graduate of 10 years, have remained clean and sober for 11 years, and not once has AARC told me that if "I left the cult, I would die". No, I am not required to show up there ever. When I do decide to drop in, they greet me nicely and we talk like normal human beings.. I talk to some of the new kids in there, answer some questions and enjoy seeing the changes that happen there.

yeah, yeah.  We heard the same bullshit at Straight.  AARC, as I know it (it's run pretty much like Straight was) IS  a cult.

Ajax has never been inside the building. Ajax, doesn't have any family that has gone through there, he has absolutely NO relation to AARC whatsoever. He speculates, and clearly takes out of context, the words of his rather timid sounding girlfriend who went through almost 11 years ago.

Why do you keep calling her timid?  Is that supposed to be some kind of insult or something?  I would daydream for hours about a friend being concerned enough about me to try and help save me from Straight.

Ajax doesn't even have EXPERIENCE to back up his claims. He is missing TWO CRITICAL COMPONENTS now, EXPERIENCE, and EDUCATION.

Enlighten us, please.

So since Ajax has neither of these, why would any of you listen to him? I'm admittedly an asshole, and I will give you the truth about AARC, straight from my mouth.. what I did like, what I didn't like and where I am now in my life.

Why would we listen to you any more than we would him?

Ajax, I find it reprehensible that you are taking advantage of a girl who is in pain from some possible past traumatic experiences. You are a pathetic excuse for a boyfriend and you are a pathetic excuse for a man.

You aren't helping her, you are hindering her growth, and when she reads this, she will know exactly what it is I am talking about.

Ajax, don't pay any attention to this asshole.  I would have loved to have someone on the outside care enough to find out about what bullshit I was trapped in.

"Guest"....YOU are reprehensible trying to pass AARC off as some sort of sane treatment center.  It's nothing but a Straight mindfuck.

"Special Lady Friend" let me know if you need ways of getting out of that abusive relationship you are in. I've studied on them and I would be able to offer you some tactical advice on removing that guy from your life.

Special Lady, Ajax seems to be the only one who cared about what you had to endure at the hands of those sadists.  Stay strong, don't give them any more control or power over yourself.  You were forced to do that enough back then.

[Anonymous]

Ask me anything you want then Anne Boone, but for fuck sakes don't perpetuate the manipulation Ajax pulls on that poor girl purely in the name of an arguement with me... Jesus.

I know where AARC "came from". I know about Straight and I know about those other programs... more than you think I know you fool.

Now, before you start grunting with your nose in your plate of macaroni, know that AARC is not nearly as bad as those places. People aren't 'restrained' unless they are posing an imminent threat to another client ie; wielding a knife, about to get into a fight.. you know, basic logic? There is no physical abuse, mental abuse, social abuse or anything like that. They WOULD be shut down if those were the conditions in there. We are in a pro-human rights era, and it wouldn't matter who was backing the place, it would be shut if there were human rights violations.

The business and the people that put their name on the donor cards, wouldn't support human rights violations. You people are so small.. it's awful. Cranial-rectal intisusception (they call it in the med field).

What's it like being so lost and clueless about what's going on? Don't you people get it? Just because a couple of social outcasts hate a place that made them stop doing drugs... doesn't mean they are violating your human rights.

The stupidity here is incredible! I enjoy it.. and a lot more people read this than you think.. it's become part of the parody section on my website. Do continue though blumpkin, I'm using you as practice for the next time I argue with someone that has no facts or hard evidence.. carry on.

[Anonymous]

Hello Everyone,

I wanted to point out some glaring truths about "Ajax13", a member on here who has been posting quite a bit lately.

Well, if you're going to do that, let's hear about YOU and who YOU are and what YOUR motivations are for defending a Straight descendant program

Ajax13 has a girlfriend who went through the AARC program quite some time ago, roughly 10 years or so. Ajax has never been in the doors of AARC, has never looked any of the staff in the face and is unaware of how AARC operates.

Do tell then, do tell.

Ajax works on a drilling rig as a floor hand for a drilling company in Alberta. If our in house statistics serve me correctly, Ajax doesn't even have a Grade 12 diploma.

And your point would be?

Not only is he completely unqualified to make any sort of doctoral assessment as to the operational methods of AARC, but he is lying blatantly and spreading mis-truths and unfounded propaganda. He is; in many ways, like a muslim extremist if you think about it.

Back to Ajax's reason for being here: "Special Lady Friend", another user here who feels as though she had a rough time in the AARC program.

AARC is not an easy program. It is a no bull long term drug and alcohol treatment facility that utilizes the 12 step program of Alcoholics Anonymous as their preferred delivery method.

AARC is directly descended from Straight and Miller Newton.  We know much more about your program than you think shithead.

Ajax calls AARC a cult. I am a graduate of 10 years, have remained clean and sober for 11 years, and not once has AARC told me that if "I left the cult, I would die". No, I am not required to show up there ever. When I do decide to drop in, they greet me nicely and we talk like normal human beings.. I talk to some of the new kids in there, answer some questions and enjoy seeing the changes that happen there.

yeah, yeah.  We heard the same bullshit at Straight.  AARC, as I know it (it's run pretty much like Straight was) IS  a cult.

Ajax has never been inside the building. Ajax, doesn't have any family that has gone through there, he has absolutely NO relation to AARC whatsoever. He speculates, and clearly takes out of context, the words of his rather timid sounding girlfriend who went through almost 11 years ago.

Why do you keep calling her timid?  Is that supposed to be some kind of insult or something?  I would daydream for hours about a friend being concerned enough about me to try and help save me from Straight.

Ajax doesn't even have EXPERIENCE to back up his claims. He is missing TWO CRITICAL COMPONENTS now, EXPERIENCE, and EDUCATION.

Enlighten us, please.

So since Ajax has neither of these, why would any of you listen to him? I'm admittedly an asshole, and I will give you the truth about AARC, straight from my mouth.. what I did like, what I didn't like and where I am now in my life.

Why would we listen to you any more than we would him?

Ajax, I find it reprehensible that you are taking advantage of a girl who is in pain from some possible past traumatic experiences. You are a pathetic excuse for a boyfriend and you are a pathetic excuse for a man.

You aren't helping her, you are hindering her growth, and when she reads this, she will know exactly what it is I am talking about.

Ajax, don't pay any attention to this asshole.  I would have loved to have someone on the outside care enough to find out about what bullshit I was trapped in.

"Guest"....YOU are reprehensible trying to pass AARC off as some sort of sane treatment center.  It's nothing but a Straight mindfuck.

"Special Lady Friend" let me know if you need ways of getting out of that abusive relationship you are in. I've studied on them and I would be able to offer you some tactical advice on removing that guy from your life.

Special Lady, Ajax seems to be the only one who cared about what you had to endure at the hands of those sadists.  Stay strong, don't give them any more control or power over yourself.  You were forced to do that enough back then.

Ummm she was in there 10 years ago. She's not in there now. For him to be like that and use her past to advance his personal interests on her is a filthy tactic. Doesnt sound like you know shit all about aarc because its not even close to straight and i know how straight was probably more than you.

[Anne Bonney]

Ask me anything you want then Anne Boone,

It's Bonney, get it right jerkoff.

Now, before you start grunting with your nose in your plate of macaroni,

It's Surf n Turf tonight.  Get it right.

know that AARC is not nearly as bad as those places. People aren't 'restrained' unless they are posing an imminent threat to another client ie; wielding a knife, about to get into a fight.. you know, basic logic?

Yeah, exact same logic and line that Straight used.  Then they'd either push people to the point to where they'd lash out or just flat out lie.  How's this any different?

There is no physical abuse, mental abuse, social abuse or anything like that. They WOULD be shut down if those were the conditions in there. We are in a pro-human rights era, and it wouldn't matter who was backing the place, it would be shut if there were human rights violations.  The business and the people that put their name on the donor cards, wouldn't support human rights violations.

::roflmao::  ::roflmao::  ::roflmao::

Oh your poor naive soul.. Now that's about the biggest load of crap I've read all day.  On many different levels.  Human rights??  Under this administration.  You have much to learn, Grasshopper.

These places are killing kids left and right and people are only beginning to speak up.  Programs, especially ones with connections to Straight and Mel Sembler, have enormous resources.  Miller Newton kept popping back up time after time.  When he'd get run out of one state, he'd start up in anohter.  That's how AARC came to be.  I guess he was finally run out of the entire damn country.




 

You people are so small.. it's awful. Cranial-rectal intisusception (they call it in the med field).

What's it like being so lost and clueless about what's going on? Don't you people get it? Just because a couple of social outcasts hate a place that made them stop doing drugs... doesn't mean they are violating your human rights.

I wasn't doing drugs when I was sent to Straight.  It wasn't until after getting out and having to deal with PTSD from Straight that I began to use.  Best decision I ever made.  Go ahead now.  (Can't wait for your thoughts on this)

The stupidity here is incredible! I enjoy it.. and a lot more people read this than you think.. it's become part of the parody section on my website. Do continue though blumpkin, I'm using you as practice for the next time I argue with someone that has no facts or hard evidence.. carry on.

Uh huh.






Sheeple.   :roll:

[Anne Bonney]

Ummm she was in there 10 years ago. She's not in there now. For him to be like that and use her past to advance his personal interests on her is a filthy tactic. Doesnt sound like you know shit all about aarc because its not even close to straight and i know how straight was probably more than you.

Ummm,  :roll:  

Really now?  How would that be little one?

[Anonymous]

Ummm she was in there 10 years ago. She's not in there now. For him to be like that and use her past to advance his personal interests on her is a filthy tactic. Doesnt sound like you know shit all about aarc because its not even close to straight and i know how straight was probably more than you.

Ummm,  :roll:  

Really now?  How would that be little one?

Anne, you sound like a bit of a fascist... in the sense that "if one is bad, then they're all bad".

It's just not true pumpkin. I've done well with my life. You went through straight, I went through AARC.

Do you happen to hate all muslims simply because 10 of them flew planes in to the WTC?

Your barbaric logic is astonishing. I hope you find peace with yourself one day. Sounds to me like you're still sitting around the house moping.

[Anne Bonney]

Ummm she was in there 10 years ago. She's not in there now. For him to be like that and use her past to advance his personal interests on her is a filthy tactic. Doesnt sound like you know shit all about aarc because its not even close to straight and i know how straight was probably more than you.

Ummm,  :roll:  

Really now?  How would that be little one?

Anne, you sound like a bit of a fascist... in the sense that "if one is bad, then they're all bad".

It's just not true pumpkin. I've done well with my life. You went through straight, I went through AARC.

Do you happen to hate all muslims simply because 10 of them flew planes in to the WTC?

Your barbaric logic is astonishing. I hope you find peace with yourself one day. Sounds to me like you're still sitting around the house moping.

Why do you people always assume that because we're angry about what was done to us, and what continues to be done to other kids, means that I'm miserable losers and live in mom's basement?  It really gets old and is simply not true.    I know it flies in the face of all the deadinsaneorinjail predictions, but it's all a scam darlin'.  You people just cannot believe that anyone would have the gall to criticize your precious program.  We must all be drug addicts and losers.  I mean, where is our gratitude, right? :roll:  I have a great life now, with absolutely NO thanks to Straight.  It tore my family up.  We couldn't even begin to repair it for years and years.  That pisses me off and always will.  Other than that, life is great now that I don't have to put up with that kind of mentality.


Programs that force kids into "treatment" are not only not effective, but very often dangerous.  Programs that are run the way Straight was DEFINITELY are dangerous.  AARC may have gotten rid of some of the overt and obvious abuse to appease the masses, but the basic premise of breaking a kid to build them back up is still there and still wrong.

[hanzomon4]

Blah Blah Blah Blah it saved my life Blah Blah Blah AARC is diffrent from all the other St8 clones Blah Blah Blah Blah you're a poo poo face Blah Blah Blah Blah 10 years sober!!!  ::bwahaha::

This is about as entertaining as watching a monkey smell it's on shit only to be amazed that it still smells like shit.

[Anne Bonney]

This is about as entertaining as watching a monkey smell it's on shit only to be amazed that it still smells like shit.

 ::roflmao::  ::roflmao::  ::roflmao::

[Rachael]

Hey Josh,

You know most of my issues w/ AARC already. Or at least the blatantly obvious ones.

It is illegal in Alberta (and everywhere else in Canada) to hold a person against their will regardless of age for any period of time except in the following situations:
by court order following an arrest
by medical certificate
OR for up to five days for detox (but this is only within the last 3 years)

And, in all those situations, there are processes in place to allow a person to challenge their detainment.


I for one, was not held at AARC for any of those reasons. Most people I was in with weren't either. Therefore, that right was violated. That's illegal thing number one, and a human rights violation under the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms, the UN Declaration of Human Rights, and the Convention on the Rights of the Child. The two latter of which were both ratified by Canada, and the former which is one of the most binding pieces of federal legislation.


I won't go into a laundry list of the other things that happened at AARC that are considered illegal, but they include preventing school age children (including those under the age of 16) from going to school. And contrary to the usual AARC spiel, many kids I was in with at least were still attending school - including myself. Also, preventing access to legal consultation - and I worked for a lawyer, so I knew how to ask - is illegal.


AARC has absolutely no oversight from the government. They are not an addcredited or regulated medical or treatment facility. They are a licensed charity and that is the extent of their legal existence. They have no legal ability to keep children in their warehouse, or send them off to host homes at the end of every night. There, the homes we were kept in they did not do criminal background checks on parents or siblings. Not to mention the our oldcomers many of whom did have criminal histories including violence and sexual offences.


I'm not sure if you were on staff when that incident happened w/ Ashley. The one where I got confronted on the stool for retaliating and got "held back" from my step one. That (if you were there and you remember) was abuse. And fucking disgusting.


When Jen and Carry wouldn't let me get dressed (albeit I had a towel) till I signed the forms on intake and made fun of me for trying to read the forms, that was called "coercion" and also, it fucking sucked.

So, what say you to that?


Rachael

[Anne Bonney]

And contrary to the usual AARC spiel, many kids I was in with at least were still attending school - including myself.

That particular piece of bullshit comes DIRECTLY from Newton/Straight  


http://www.thestraights.com/video/newt-noharm.rm

[Anne Bonney]

I'm not sure if you were on staff when that incident happened w/ Ashley. The one where I got confronted on the stool for retaliating and got "held back" from my step one. That (if you were there and you remember) was abuse. And fucking disgusting.


When Jen and Carry wouldn't let me get dressed (albeit I had a towel) till I signed the forms on intake and made fun of me for trying to read the forms, that was called "coercion" and also, it fucking sucked.

So, what say you to that?


Rachael

That is precisely what I'm talking about.  Nothing has really changed.

[Anonymous]

I'm not sure if you were on staff when that incident happened w/ Ashley. The one where I got confronted on the stool for retaliating and got "held back" from my step one. That (if you were there and you remember) was abuse. And fucking disgusting.


When Jen and Carry wouldn't let me get dressed (albeit I had a towel) till I signed the forms on intake and made fun of me for trying to read the forms, that was called "coercion" and also, it fucking sucked.

So, what say you to that?


Rachael

That is precisely what I'm talking about.  Nothing has really changed.

Just quit being mad and admit that your fat overweight ass is ruining your chances of finding a 4th husband you pig. I dont like aarc or you for that matter so go stuff a meaty suasage up yer ass and go for a ride

[Anne Bonney]

Just quit being mad and admit that your fat overweight ass is ruining your chances of finding a 4th husband you pig. I dont like aarc or you for that matter so go stuff a meaty suasage up yer ass and go for a ride

Aren't you a witty one.   Awww, now ya done and hurt my feelings.


 :roll:  :rofl:  :rofl:  :rofl:  :rofl:  :rofl: