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« Reply #45 on: July 19, 2007, 07:12:47 PM »
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According to that article posted in this forum, WWASP, as an umbrella organization will probably not exist for more than another year or two. Then the big wwasp boggie man will be gone, and parents might actually have to start evaluating individual programs again? Let's hope. Right now I read too many statements to the effect of, "well at least it's not wwasps", and it makes me shudder!


Not true, not as long as you still have referral companies out there.
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« Reply #46 on: July 19, 2007, 07:13:58 PM »
You insult your child every second you sit here wasting time while they rot in unjust imprisonment.
You can't raise kids via contractual agreements.  Stop trying to get someone to tell you otherwise and go get your kid already.
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« Reply #47 on: July 19, 2007, 07:15:37 PM »
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However, it does start with an "S".


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« Reply #48 on: July 19, 2007, 07:16:51 PM »
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According to that article posted in this forum, WWASP, as an umbrella organization will probably not exist for more than another year or two. Then the big wwasp boggie man will be gone, and parents might actually have to start evaluating individual programs again? Let's hope. Right now I read too many statements to the effect of, "well at least it's not wwasps", and it makes me shudder!

Not true, not as long as you still have referral companies out there.


Or parents like the one who started this thread.  :roll:
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« Reply #49 on: July 19, 2007, 07:17:00 PM »
ACT Up is that you? You don't need an Exit Plan. Just bring him home. You'll figure the rest of it out as you go, just like you did before he went away to Summit.
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« Reply #50 on: July 19, 2007, 07:25:16 PM »
Can only hope this topic was started by ACT UP.  At least her son is age 17 and he can walk away from her stupid butt at age 18.
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« Reply #51 on: July 19, 2007, 07:26:56 PM »
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ACT Up is that you? You don't need an Exit Plan. Just bring him home. You'll figure the rest of it out as you go, just like you did before he went away to Summit.


LOOK.. Program told my parents that if they took me home I would be a monster.  Most parents listened.  Their kids arn't doing so well for the most part.  My parents did not listen, and against the dire warnings from program, took me home.  We learned ways to get along, and I am doing more than a little fine right now.  That would not have happened if program had got it's way.  So please.  Just take the kid home.  If you want advice on what me and my parents did to get along, i'll gladly answer. Ask away. If getting along isn't a problem, and he is depressed, sending him around to what he probably thinks of as "places for fuck-ups" isn't going to fix him.  It's just going to re-enforce his view of himself as a "fuck-up".  A loser. A suicidal wacko.  A nutball.  A druggie... A bulemic.  Programs often don't treat as much as they re-enforce (or create) the sickness.  It's like Munchausen by Proxy... only institutionalized.  Learned helplessnes..  Self fulfilling prophecies.  Call it what you will, if it's not working for him where he is, give him a chance at home, and let him feel normal for once.

DON'T look for a residential program, or a "transitional" school.  I was in one.  It wasn't a good experience, and such programs are becoming more and more popular (sadly).  In my opinion, the "transitional" schools are going to be the next big thing in this industry...
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« Reply #52 on: July 19, 2007, 07:32:08 PM »
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See that's the thing, I am bringing him home against their wishes, oh freakin' well.  Because he hasn't done well in the school everyone is telling me since he's not done well, and isn't finishing, that I should give him an exit to the street, with a phone card, food card, yada yada yada.  No way am I going to do that.   And no, I am not actup, I haven't posted a name.  I just post under guest.

Personally, I think everyone in my house could use a exit plan, but that's just me, and me included at times. :rofl:
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« Reply #53 on: July 19, 2007, 07:43:05 PM »
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LOOK.. Program told my parents that if they took me home I would be a monster.  Most parents listened.  Their kids arn't doing so well for the most part.  My parents did not listen, and against the dire warnings from program, took me home.  We learned ways to get along, and I am doing more than a little fine right now.  That would not have happened if program had got it's way.


Don't know how it was for you psy, but parents should expect their kid to have some issues after Program -- PTSD, learned helplessness, depression, maybe lots of things. Homecoming is not the time for behavior contracts and high expectations. It's a time for healing, and kindness and understanding.
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« Reply #54 on: July 19, 2007, 07:43:58 PM »
And why won't you share the name of this facility; so other parents won't send their child there?
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« Reply #55 on: July 19, 2007, 07:45:23 PM »
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See that's the thing, I am bringing him home against their wishes, oh freakin' well.  Because he hasn't done well in the school everyone is telling me since he's not done well, and isn't finishing, that I should give him an exit to the street, with a phone card, food card, yada yada yada.

Precisely what Benchmark wanted my parents to do.  It sounds like this place is definately not a good place.  Those details sound like a WWASP style exit-plan.  Are you sure the school your son is in is not WWASP?  Is it SCL?  

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No way am I going to do that.   And no, I am not actup, I haven't posted a name.  I just post under guest.

Personally, I think everyone in my house could use a exit plan, but that's just me, and me included at times. :rofl:


Look.  This is important.  If you are a real parent, could you contact me via pm.  I will explain a lot more on the phone.  Chances are nobody does well in your son's school (it's designed not to end).  It's a scam.  They are most likely lying about their graduation rate.  They engineer "failure" (guarantee it), make it impossible to suceed, and eventually the kid will believe it is his fault, and wonder even more what is wrong with him.  Please.  Contact me via PM if you are a real parent.  Apart from pointing out the school's bullshit, i can explain how my parents and I learned to get along (I never believed it to be possible before).
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« Reply #56 on: July 19, 2007, 07:47:43 PM »
As far as I know, my son has not been abused, if I even thought that, he never would have gone, let alone would I keep him there.  I am bringing him home because I think it's time, I don't care what they think.

I agree with getting a therapist to help out in the transition, and for after care if he thinks he needs it.  I am not going to force the issue, just offer it.
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« Reply #57 on: July 19, 2007, 07:47:58 PM »
Assuming that you are for real why bother with an exit plan at all? Sit down with the kid, talk about what you both want out of the living arangement and compromise. Make a promise to him that while some behaviours may be unacceptable in your home, this does not mean that the penalty for such trangressions will ever mean that he is going to be kicked out onto the street.
Be really prepared to listen to him and if he complains about the program dont tell him you did what you had to to save his life
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« Reply #58 on: July 19, 2007, 07:48:59 PM »
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See that's the thing, I am bringing him home against their wishes, oh freakin' well.  Because he hasn't done well in the school everyone is telling me since he's not done well, and isn't finishing, that I should give him an exit to the street, with a phone card, food card, yada yada yada.  No way am I going to do that.   And no, I am not actup, I haven't posted a name.  I just post under guest.

Personally, I think everyone in my house could use a exit plan, but that's just me, and me included at times. :rofl:


That's so typical program -- break all ties and disown him. Good for you that you don't want to throw away your son and your relationship with him. Here's an idea: take the money you would've spent on next month's tuition and take him on a nice vacation -- Europe, or maybe the Carribbean or some other nice exotic place. Quality time together away from home and away from Program.
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« Reply #59 on: July 19, 2007, 07:51:30 PM »
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He's had some mess ups while away, but has managed to finish high school a year ahead of schedule. I don't want to expect too much from him so as not to get upset if he does mess up, but I can't be the hardass everyone wants me to be.

Sincerely.

First post of the thread.

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Because he hasn't done well in the school everyone is telling me since he's not done well, and isn't finishing,


A few minutes ago.

Why does this poster seem to evade direct questions and change their story so much?
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