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[Anonymous]

Read the email sweetpea:  Does Patti ask to be REFERRED to any school pr program?  No she does not.

----------------- Original Message -----------------
From: Patti
Date: May 3, 2007 9:49 PM


Hello Sandy,

I'm new on MySpace. I really like your pictures and profile.
I read about your "daughter's" experiences at Tranquility Bay. I am so happy that she is safely at home.
My nephew has been at this 'school' Tranquility Bay since January, and I am very concerned about his well-being. I have only had limited news ; since his mother (my sister) has not placed me on the approved contact list, yet.
I was hoping you might help me understand more about this place, and how you were able to help secure your daughter's withdrawal from Tranquility Bay.
My nephew was enrolled out of the country because he ran away from home; which from my viewpoint is somewhat understandable. His home situation is not the best.
I would really appreciate any help you could provide.
I am very worried about my nephew.
Thank you,
Patti Atwoods

[Sandy]

Do you NOT read?  She asked about "programs", which I did NOT until recently realized what the term meant........  to me, in the past, the term "program" meant the same as "school".  Which this "Patti" used the term in the same context that I would have. I apologize for being so stupid before.  I know better now.

[Anonymous]

Calling people IDIOTS and telling them to FUCK OFF is not winning you any points here.
Why are you posting here anyway, Sandy?  What is your purpose? What do hope to gain?  You are being foolish, and some may say you are being used.

[Anonymous]

Sandy's stepdaughter was at Tranquility Bay and she claims to not know the meaning of the word, program? Give me a fucking break.

[Sandy]

Calling people IDIOTS and telling them to FUCK OFF is not winning you any points here.
Why are you posting here anyway, Sandy?  What is your purpose? What do hope to gain?  You are being foolish, and some may say you are being used.

Why do you attack me when I have something to post?  Ask yourself the same question, why do you post?  what is your purpose?
I THOUGHT I may have useful info to share and have been told by several on here in PM's that I did.

[Sandy]

Sandy's stepdaughter was at Tranquility Bay and she claims to not know the meaning of the word, program? Give me a fucking break.

I did NOT have any input/knowledge of her going there before she went.  When we found out where she was and found out what kind of place it was, we did everything we could to get her back to the States.   That kind of stuff does not happen overnight.

[Anonymous]

Do you NOT read?  She asked about "programs", which I did NOT until recently realized what the term meant........  to me, in the past, the term "program" meant the same as "school".  Which this "Patti" used the term in the same context that I would have. I apologize for being so stupid before.  I know better now.

But ya sure as hell knew who Isabelle was, didn't ya?

Go home Sandy.  Ignorance is NOT an excuse when it comes to this industry.  Greed and Ignorance is what has gotten kids seriously injured, killed and emotionally scarred for life.  You say you know better?  But you have not denounced CAICAn or Isabelle Zehnder that I have seen.  

 :flame:  :flame:  :flame:  :flame:

[psy]

Look.  For all I know Sandy had no knowledge of what was going on with Izzy.  For the record, she apologized via email for sending Patti's imaginary nephew to a "hellhole".  People can get tricked, and for the moment, I, for one, am giving her the benefit of the doubt.  You think Sandy is the only one who makes mistakes?  Look on Maia Szalavitz's page (yes, i emailed her and she said she would take it off). Linking to her is damn dangerous now that we know for a fact she can and will refer kids to Sue (and just wait til you find out who Sue refers to currently).  That page is supposed to be a warning to parents.

[Sandy]

Do you NOT read?  She asked about "programs", which I did NOT until recently realized what the term meant........  to me, in the past, the term "program" meant the same as "school".  Which this "Patti" used the term in the same context that I would have. I apologize for being so stupid before.  I know better now.

But ya sure as hell knew who Isabelle was, didn't ya?

Go home Sandy.  Ignorance is NOT an excuse when it comes to this industry.  Greed and Ignorance is what has gotten kids seriously injured, killed and emotionally scarred for life.  You say you know better?  But you have not denounced CAICAn or Isabelle Zehnder that I have seen.  

 :flame:  :flame:  :flame:  :flame:

I did NOT pick Isabelle out, she was already in the picture when I was asked to help.  I tried to do the interent search thing and nothing bad turned up on her and nothing that was helpful turned up either.  Guess maybe it had to do with how I was searching, don't know.  

I would NEVER want any child to go to a program or be sent away.  No one deserves that.  

I, myself, had problems with my other daughter.  I went through hell with her but kept her at home and worked through it.  Even homeschooled her after she purposedly kicked out of 2 private schools.  I believe you need to stick w/blood and work through everything, for better or worse.

[Anonymous]

Look.  For all I know Sandy had no knowledge of what was going on with Izzy.  For the record, she apologized via email for sending Patti's imaginary nephew to a "hellhole".  People can get tricked, and for the moment, I, for one, am giving her the benefit of the doubt.  You think Sandy is the only one who makes mistakes?  Look on Maia Szalavitz's page (yes, i just emailed her and she said she would take it off). Linking to her is damn dangerous now that we know for a fact she can and will refer kids to programs.  That page is supposed to be a warning to parents.

Do what you want psy, what this lady says or doesn't say to YOU in private means nothing to anyone else.  Where's the PUBLIC denounciation for CAICA, PURE, Izzy and Sue?   Let's see this supposedly contrite lady stand up TO Izzy and her ilk.  Maybe then it would be possible to cut her some slack, but frankly, the damage has been done IMO.  You can't unring the bell.  This lady is not as "stupid" as she would have us all believe.  Read the damn emails.  It's there in black and white.  

Shit, just when I think I've seen or heard it all ....  :roll:

[Sandy]

Look.  For all I know Sandy had no knowledge of what was going on with Izzy.  For the record, she apologized via email for sending Patti's imaginary nephew to a "hellhole".  People can get tricked, and for the moment, I, for one, am giving her the benefit of the doubt.  You think Sandy is the only one who makes mistakes?  Look on Maia Szalavitz's page (yes, i just emailed her and she said she would take it off). Linking to her is damn dangerous now that we know for a fact she can and will refer kids to programs.  That page is supposed to be a warning to parents.

Do what you want psy, what this lady says or doesn't say to YOU in private means nothing to anyone else.  Where's the PUBLIC denounciation for CAICA, PURE, Izzy and Sue?   Let's see this supposedly contrite lady stand up TO Izzy and her ilk.  Maybe then it would be possible to cut her some slack, but frankly, the damage has been done IMO.  You can't unring the bell.  This lady is not as "stupid" as she would have us all believe.  Read the damn emails.  It's there in black and white.  

Shit, just when I think I've seen or heard it all ....  :roll:

I do NOT agree with ANYONE that refers any child to any program.

[Anonymous]

Look.  For all I know Sandy had no knowledge of what was going on with Izzy.  For the record, she apologized via email for sending Patti's imaginary nephew to a "hellhole".  People can get tricked, and for the moment, I, for one, am giving her the benefit of the doubt.  You think Sandy is the only one who makes mistakes?  Look on Maia Szalavitz's page (yes, i just emailed her and she said she would take it off). Linking to her is damn dangerous now that we know for a fact she can and will refer kids to programs.  That page is supposed to be a warning to parents.

Do what you want psy, what this lady says or doesn't say to YOU in private means nothing to anyone else.  Where's the PUBLIC denounciation for CAICA, PURE, Izzy and Sue?   Let's see this supposedly contrite lady stand up TO Izzy and her ilk.  Maybe then it would be possible to cut her some slack, but frankly, the damage has been done IMO.  You can't unring the bell.  This lady is not as "stupid" as she would have us all believe.  Read the damn emails.  It's there in black and white.  

Shit, just when I think I've seen or heard it all ....  :roll:

I do NOT agree with ANYONE that refers any child to any program.

That's it?  Baaaawaaaahahahaaa.

What the hell are you smokin' there?

Psy - you surprise me with your benevolence.  The ole' fox in the hen house scenario is one of the oldest tricks in the books, brother.

[psy]

Look.  For all I know Sandy had no knowledge of what was going on with Izzy.  For the record, she apologized via email for sending Patti's imaginary nephew to a "hellhole".  People can get tricked, and for the moment, I, for one, am giving her the benefit of the doubt.  You think Sandy is the only one who makes mistakes?  Look on Maia Szalavitz's page (yes, i just emailed her and she said she would take it off). Linking to her is damn dangerous now that we know for a fact she can and will refer kids to programs.  That page is supposed to be a warning to parents.

Do what you want psy, what this lady says or doesn't say to YOU in private means nothing to anyone else.  Where's the PUBLIC denounciation for CAICA, PURE, Izzy and Sue?   Let's see this supposedly contrite lady stand up TO Izzy and her ilk.  Maybe then it would be possible to cut her some slack, but frankly, the damage has been done IMO.  You can't unring the bell.  This lady is not as "stupid" as she would have us all believe.  Read the damn emails.  It's there in black and white.  

Shit, just when I think I've seen or heard it all ....  :roll:

I do NOT agree with ANYONE that refers any child to any program.

That's it?  Baaaawaaaahahahaaa.

What the hell are you smokin' there?

Psy - you surprise me with your benevolence.  The ole' fox in the hen house scenario is one of the oldest tricks in the books, brother.

Ever been accused of something you didn't do because other people were just so "sure" but had no proof?  What I say about Izzy and Sue I say because I have proof.  Sandy could easily have made a mistake.

[Anonymous]

Don't lay down with dogs and come back bitchin' about those fleas ... that ain't no denounciation, it was a chicken shit bone thrown out to save somebody's ass.  You've lost your objectivity psy, hopefully not for long, because that would be a true loss.

[Sandy]

I would NEVER put/send/refer or otherwise want any child to be in a hellhole program.  Isabelle was involved BEFORE I was asked to assist and had any knowledge where my stepdaughter was.  

I searched the internet trying to pull info before and while dealing with all this.  I had NOTHING negative that pulled up.  I'm SURE I am not the only parent to experience this.

I am sorry that I gave "Patti" info.  I have since removed any TB off my myspace page and it's private now.  It will never happen again with me.