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« Reply #90 on: July 09, 2007, 02:40:36 AM »
anyways, isn't THIS thread suppose to be about a 15 yr old girl that is on the verge of being sent away????

That poor girl needs to disappear immediately.  If it's going to happen next week, there's NO time to do anything else.  

And just fyi... I did help my stepdaughter disappear the second time she was going to be sent "away".
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« Reply #91 on: July 09, 2007, 02:41:49 AM »
That's how it works around here sweetpea. Don't like it; do away.
Few more posts, and you may qualify for your own fornits picture here girlie.  You're becoming almost as famous as your fat-hog friend, Izzy.
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« Reply #92 on: July 09, 2007, 02:44:10 AM »
Sandy, "a 15 year old girl needs to disappear?"  Now, that sound downright sinister.  Whatever are you talking about?
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« Reply #93 on: July 09, 2007, 02:45:06 AM »
Quote from: ""Sandy""
anyways, isn't THIS thread suppose to be about a 15 yr old girl that is on the verge of being sent away????

That poor girl needs to disappear immediately.  If it's going to happen next week, there's NO time to do anything else.  

And just fyi... I did help my stepdaughter disappear the second time she was going to be sent "away".


Well kudos to you ... too bad you didn't think enough of some other kid to spare them the potential of being sent to an unregulated program vis a vis referring them to Izzy and Sue Scheff.  

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« Reply #94 on: July 09, 2007, 02:45:25 AM »
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Sandy, "a 15 year old girl needs to disappear?"  Now, that sound downright sinister.  Whatever are you talking about?


Duh...... get her out of the situation however is possible to avoid her being put in a program.....
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« Reply #95 on: July 09, 2007, 02:48:29 AM »
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Quote from: ""Sandy""
anyways, isn't THIS thread suppose to be about a 15 yr old girl that is on the verge of being sent away????

That poor girl needs to disappear immediately.  If it's going to happen next week, there's NO time to do anything else.  

And just fyi... I did help my stepdaughter disappear the second time she was going to be sent "away".

Well kudos to you ... too bad you didn't think enough of some other kid to spare them the potential of being sent to an unregulated program vis a vis referring them to Izzy and Sue Scheff.  

 :flame:  :flame:  :flame:  :flame:  :flame:  :flame:  :flame:


"Patti" asked questions that I did not know the answers to, I thought Isabelle might know......  that was IT...  
I didn't feel "right" about things that "Patti" said/asked... I deleted her off my page and had no further contact with her...... that can all be verified with Psy or anyone else that has privy to the emails/info.
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« Reply #96 on: July 09, 2007, 02:48:42 AM »
Sandy.  Are you a self-proclaimed "ADVOCATE" yourself now?
One little referral to Izzy and Sue Scheff/PURE for a program placement; and now you have just taken over?
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« Reply #97 on: July 09, 2007, 02:52:06 AM »
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Sandy.  Are you a self-proclaimed "ADVOCATE" yourself now?
One little referral to Izzy and Sue Scheff/PURE for a program placement; and now you have just taken over?

I am NOT an "advocate".  I am a parent who's stepdaughter was unforunate enough to be sent to TB w/o my knowledge beforehand.
I helped in getting her removed, that's all.
I have knowledge of TB.  I do not claim anything else.
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« Reply #98 on: July 09, 2007, 02:53:58 AM »
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Sandy.  Are you a self-proclaimed "ADVOCATE" yourself now?
One little referral to Izzy and Sue Scheff/PURE for a program placement; and now you have just taken over?


Ignore Sandy and her sorry excuses.  Izzy can't post on Fornits so I guess Sandy is the designated poster.

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« Reply #99 on: July 09, 2007, 02:56:38 AM »
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Sandy.  Are you a self-proclaimed "ADVOCATE" yourself now?
One little referral to Izzy and Sue Scheff/PURE for a program placement; and now you have just taken over?

Ignore Sandy and her sorry excuses.  Izzy can't post on Fornits so I guess Sandy is the designated poster.

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I am my own person, I do not post for anyone else.  
So Fuck you........
guess I can do what everyone else seems to do and post as a "guest" if I want
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« Reply #100 on: July 09, 2007, 03:00:01 AM »
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Date: May 6, 2007 9:45 PM


Hi Patti,
ANY of the WWASP schools are a bad idea. They are not schools. It's more on the level of a concentration camp and these kids are being incarcerated. Even after they 18, they are unable to leave because they have to have an airline ticket which most of them are unable to get that arranged. Also, they have a level based program and when it appears that a kid is going to be close to completing the levels, they knock them back down to level one for even a minor infraction.

TB heavily censors incoming & outgoing mail. If the kid writes much about what goes on, the letters never make it out. According to what Desiree has said, and she's not really to the point that she wants to talk about TB, is that the males have it worse than the females. She was there from July 27th to March 18th. She had lost weight but she's a resilient kid that knows how to "go with the flow" when needed.

Yes, Mario, her dad has joint custody and that was how we were able to force the stepgrandmother to take her out. The US Embassy is of no help. Desiree's college fund was used to finance her stay, as is a common practice.

As far as I was able to find out, they really do not have teachers there. The kids pretty much have to do it on their own. Desiree is done w/high school and just waiting to start summer college later this month. Desiree spent some time w/Mario but she is currently staying w/her maternal grandparents to keep her away from the stepgrandmother. Her story is a huge long mess but TB is usually the last resort not the first choice for a kid to be sent to.

If you think your sister would be open to another program, you really should contact Isabelle Zehnder. I mentioned you to her so she won't be surprised if you contact her. She can give you more information on the WWASP schools and I'm sure she would know about some legitimate programs in the U.S. She's great at working as a mediator in family relations.
I will keep you & your nephew in my prayers and hopefully your sister will listen. Does your nephew's father have any custodial rights? If so, is he in the picture?

Please keep in touch and I'm always here if you need to talk. Isabelle probably will be your best bet to try and help.

Sandy
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« Reply #101 on: July 09, 2007, 03:03:35 AM »
UH OH.

Seems Sandy needs to STFU instead of telling others to fuck off.

Thanks guest, that pretty much says it all now doesn't it?

Sandy go home.

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« Reply #102 on: July 09, 2007, 03:08:13 AM »
NOT that any of you idiots listen but, I was NOT promoting any program.  When my kids were in school, anything that had to do with school was called a "program".  I had NO IDEA that these places existed until the past year.  "Patti" herself had asked about "programs/schools".

Hell, if they had these "programs" when I was younger and if my parents knew about them, I'm sure I would have been sent to one.   I do not think ANY kid should be in what y'all are calling "programs".
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« Reply #103 on: July 09, 2007, 03:09:07 AM »
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Body: I'll call Isabelle tomorrow and talk to her. I'm sure she knows of legit programs in the U.S.
Please don't give up on Jason, he really needs your help where he's at.

I'll get back with you after I speak to her.
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« Reply #104 on: July 09, 2007, 03:14:16 AM »
Hi Sandy,

I can't imagine interesting my sister in a lawsuit at this stage, when she is not even discussing the fact that enrolling Jason at TB is a grave error.

I am hoping to convince her that TB has a horrible reputation for abusing these students, and that the educational benefits are practically non-existent. It does not appear that Jason is receiving any psychological or clinical sessions, eitherl.

I do know that having Jason back at home is not the answer now. If a summer-type-program could be presented to my sister; with an academic boarding school lined up for the fall; I believe my efforts to get Jason released from TB might be successful. Jason does enjoy working with my horses when he visits here, and he enjoys outdoor camping, hihking, fishing, etc. Are you aware of any type of dude-ranch-type programs, or outdoors summer programs that might offer services to teens with problems?
This would allow time to look at permanent academic boarding schools for the fall semester.

I will work with my sister, as far as the finances, as long as the school is not one of these "behavor modification" programs.

I asked her how she found TB? She talked to a representative from Teen Help, which I believe is the marketing department for these schools. Everything was done over the internet and by telephone.

I asked how she expected to pay these tuitition costs at TB, since Jason's college fund will not be released; and my question was not answered directly. It is my hope that if she can not meet the financial responsibility, that Jason will be "expelled" for non-payment.
I'm sure you can see that I am grasping for straws.

I have no "custodial rights" and do not want to antagonize my sister, and cut off all communications. She is my only contact with Jason, at this point.

Thanks,
Patti
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