DRAMA !!

[Lexa6805]

This whole forum cracks me up, honestly. I had no idea this entire website even existed 2 months ago. Now, I find myself checking it on a daily basis to see what bullshit is going to come out of the next person's keyboard. I was a resident in the early 90's and I can tell from some of your descriptions, that most of the whiners in here must have been there before I was because I remain in contact with current staff and know all this shit hasn't happened since I left. SO here's my point: I find myself having pity on you people for..
1. Not being able to find people in your own lives that you can vent your day to day frustrations on instead of anonymous people in cyber-land.
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2. Not having enough of a life that something that happened (with mathamatical probability) 20 years, or so, ago still consumes your daily routine.


But after all is said & done..like I said you crack me up! We are fortunate enough to live in the United States of America where freedom of speech is taken for granted and Jerry Springer rejects feel it is necessary to spout their own insecurities on others via bickering on a public forum website. Entertainment for the masses! Thanks, I'll bring the popcorn for tomorrow's show!!!

[Ursus]

I find myself having pity on you people for...  Not having enough of a life that something that happened (with mathamatical probability) 20 years, or so, ago still consumes your daily routine.

Do bring your popcorn, dear.  And do stay awhile.  Perhaps, in time, you may grow up enough to realize that some people have actually gone through some significant trauma, and have not healed from it yet.

Just what do you wish to accomplish with your cavalier and superior attitude?  Establish that you are not as fucked up as everyone else?  Does anyone have a medal we can award this superior being?

Life is hard enough in the day to day, let alone carrying around emotional baggage from long ago.  Why would you want to ridicule people like that?  It's like throwing stones at someone in a wheelchair!
 
Try having a bit more of a heart, you might actually find the defrosting somewhat life-affirming!
 ::peace::

[hanzomon4]

Folks in Denial....

[Toetag Inc.]

I find myself having pity on you people for...  Not having enough of a life that something that happened (with mathamatical probability) 20 years, or so, ago still consumes your daily routine.

Do bring your popcorn, dear.  And do stay awhile.  Perhaps, in time, you may grow up enough to realize that some people have actually gone through some significant trauma, and have not healed from it yet.

Just what do you wish to accomplish with your cavalier and superior attitude?  Establish that you are not as fucked up as everyone else?  Does anyone have a medal we can award this superior being?

Life is hard enough in the day to day, let alone carrying around emotional baggage from long ago.  Why would you want to ridicule people like that?  It's like throwing stones at someone in a wheelchair!
 
Try having a bit more of a heart, you might actually find the defrosting somewhat life-affirming!
 ::peace::

Ursus you are a pussy, plain and simple. I wish they had put me in the ring with you, so I could beat a life into you.
There are two types of Ex-Elanified Fucks, those who learned something good and those who always sucked even prior to being placed in Elan. Now which category do you think that I think you fall in. You need to "heal" grow the fuck up, nothing that happened in that place was "that" bad.

[Ursus]

Ursus you are a pussy, plain and simple. I wish they had put me in the ring with you, so I could beat a life into you.
There are two types of Ex-Elanified Fucks, those who learned something good and those who always sucked even prior to being placed in Elan. Now which category do you think that I think you fall in. You need to "heal" grow the fuck up, nothing that happened in that place was "that" bad.

Oh, I'm sure you'd put me into whatever category you consider the most derogatory, Tag.  And I'm sure I need to "grow up," "heal," whatever...

As to what happened to me, and where, you haven't a fucking clue, nor do you have a fucking right to judge anyone else as far as that is concerned, nor anyone else judge you, for that matter...

People have their own damages, that's all I am saying, and you are not helping matters by sitting in high moral judgment on something you know but little about.  We might know, and we can learn, about day to day particulars but, last time I checked, nobody has--as of yet--acquired the ability to reside in someone else's head or heart.

I have no beef with you, Tag, but, if you don't mind my saying, and I mean this with utmost and gentle respect, it really does sound as though Elan has stunted your ability to empathize...

[Toetag Inc.]

Ursus you are a pussy, plain and simple. I wish they had put me in the ring with you, so I could beat a life into you.
There are two types of Ex-Elanified Fucks, those who learned something good and those who always sucked even prior to being placed in Elan. Now which category do you think that I think you fall in. You need to "heal" grow the fuck up, nothing that happened in that place was "that" bad.

Oh, I'm sure you'd put me into whatever category you consider the most derogatory, Tag.  And I'm sure I need to "grow up," "heal," whatever...

As to what happened to me, and where, you haven't a fucking clue, nor do you have a fucking right to judge anyone else as far as that is concerned, nor anyone else judge you, for that matter...

People have their own damages, that's all I am saying, and you are not helping matters by sitting in high moral judgment on something you know but little about.  We might know, and we can learn, about day to day particulars but, last time I checked, nobody has--as of yet--acquired the ability to reside in someone else's head or heart.

I have no beef with you, Tag, but, if you don't mind my saying, and I mean this with utmost and gentle respect, it really does sound as though Elan has stunted your ability to empathize...

Ok, I'll bite. What Ursus was your "significant trauma" that you suffered while in Elan. I was in Elan from Late 92 to early 94. I cannot wait to hear this.

[Toetag Inc.]

I was in Elan from Late 92 to early 94. I cannot wait to hear this.

I was in Elan 81-82 who are you to say what I saw?

Felice come on, you know I'll just call you anyway. I am not anyone to say what you saw when I was 5 years old. Phil's death was unfortunate, however I think we all agree that after the 80's Elan fundamentally changed the way it operated in every aspect.

[Ursus]

Ok, I'll bite. What Ursus was your "significant trauma" that you suffered while in Elan. I was in Elan from Late 92 to early 94. I cannot wait to hear this.

Hey, Tag, not Elan.  Your neighbor on the coast, early/mid 70s, when these places really ripped your innards out.  So much so, that, fat chance I'll ever tell my story with my avatar attached to it, LOL!

In my day, we heard all sorts of things about Elan, and I think there were even a couple of kids that did time at both Hyde and Elan.  Hyde has since cleaned up its act somewhat, but it is still all about thought reform to modify behavior, or the other way around: behavior modification to achieve thought reform!  Either way, its one coercive trip and a half!  Yuk!

 :wink:

[Lexa6805]

Ok, I'll bite. What Ursus was your "significant trauma" that you suffered while in Elan. I was in Elan from Late 92 to early 94. I cannot wait to hear this.

Hey, Tag, not Elan.  Your neighbor on the coast, early/mid 70s, when these places really ripped your innards out.  So much so, that, fat chance I'll ever tell my story with my avatar attached to it, LOL!

In my day, we heard all sorts of things about Elan, and I think there were even a couple of kids that did time at both Hyde and Elan.  Hyde has since cleaned up its act somewhat, but it is still all about thought reform to modify behavior, or the other way around: behavior modification to achieve thought reform!  Either way, its one coercive trip and a half!  Yuk!

 :wink:

Ursus,
Congratulations!! You just proved you should take your own advice and shut the fuck up on shit you know nothing about. How dare you sit in this forum and talk shit to people who actally were in "Elan". I dont remember registering for the "Hyde" protion of this site. Go take a Xanax, have a drink, dwell in the pathetic portions of your life.. You fucked yourself on this one dear! You should have just sat back and watched the words go by, but for some reason you feel compelled to speak for the masses. Fucking Loser!

[Lexa6805]

:rofl:  :rofl:  :rofl:  :rofl:  :rofl:  :rofl:  :rofl:

Now I can go about my day. You have no idea how all of you keep me laughing. From the spelling errors to the grammatically incorrect sentence structures..Really, thank you!

[Ursus]

Ursus,
Congratulations!! You just proved you should take your own advice and shut the fuck up on shit you know nothing about. How dare you sit in this forum and talk shit to people who actally were in "Elan". I dont remember registering for the "Hyde" protion of this site. Go take a Xanax, have a drink, dwell in the pathetic portions of your life.. You fucked yourself on this one dear! You should have just sat back and watched the words go by, but for some reason you feel compelled to speak for the masses. Fucking Loser!

How dare I?  I do believe this is an open forum, last time I checked.  And nobody "owns" this forum any more than anybody else here does...  When you registered, you registered on fornits, not specifically the Elan portion thereof.  If you want the Elan forum to be solely for those who are more intimately associated with said institution, then that is an issue you'll need to bring up with your Moderator or with Ginger.

Moreover, I don't believe I was talking "shit" to anyone.  I was merely trying to counsel a little more tolerance.  And yeah, I could have kept my mouth shut, but I very deliberately, with full knowledge of the potential consequences, informed you of my program heritage.  If you want to term that "fucking myself," and being a "Fucking Loser," so be it...  I can wallow in my own shit quite nicely.   :lol:  

Seriously, Alexa, do you think that maybe, just maybe, Elan's fucking with your mind so much just might have a wee bit to do with your xenophobic hostility and focus on alcohol consumption?  Do you think that maybe the program, and not your peers, may be more at fault for that?  Try chilling a bit, I only wish you some peace.
 ::peace::

[Toetag Inc.]

I personally think that those who did not attend Elan, should not post here. The exception would be parents of potential new Elan students.

I think Ursus is female.

I have seen Artman's picture on Plenty of fish and think he hasn't a leg to stand on just for that mugshot.

I also think Elanified Fucks from the 80's are damaged goods ( not entirely their own fault), as it seems Elan was very different back then.

You can all now stop, and sleep well tonight knowing that Elan has definately changed rather significantly for the good, perhaps because of this forum and perhaps not.

[ok]

Elan was shit OK in the 70's 80's my heart goes out to anyone doing time in those years, but truth is noone cares never have and never will all our stories fall on depth ears. And what stories we have.


Elan misfit  early 70's

[Ursus]

Too many smiley faces for you, eh Tag?  That's what I get for trying to be a friendly ol' Bear.

Do wish to respect everyone's sensibilities, which is kind of why I stuck my name tag out there, to be upfront about myself, but I got to hear it from more than one to feel that it is "common consensus."  Totally don't wish to step on too many toes.  But... there are issues common to Maine re. political connections et al, not to mention potential other factors, that I do think both camps up there could benefit from hearing from each other.  Certainly I have interest in Elan from that perspective.  And I do have a perspective re. Elan from waaay back that may or may not be of interest to anyone.  'Nuff said.

Do kindly weigh in and eviscerate me some more!  I'm open to being run outta here!  God knows, you need someone to pick on, or you might just pick each other to bits!

[Lexa6805]

I think Ursus is female.

I also think Elanified Fucks from the 80's are damaged goods ( not entirely their own fault), as it seems Elan was very different back then.

You can all now stop, and sleep well tonight knowing that Elan has definately changed rather significantly for the good, perhaps because of this forum and perhaps not.

I have to say I agree to Ursus being a female.LOL
Tag, you and I should chat sometime..You sound like you have your head on straight!