DRAMA !!

[Ursus]

HMmmm... I have to say, with all due respect, that the obsession with attempting to disparage people using allusions to their sexuality and/or gender appears to be quite distinctive to this forum.  It would seem, perhaps, that it is only a few personalities on this forum.

...Tag, you and I should chat sometime..You sound like you have your head on straight!

Lexa, given that you and Tag both have each other as your very first friends in your respective MySpace profiles, I imagine you two already chat a great deal.  Does make one wonder just how to adjudge whatever else you have to say...  With all due respect, of course!

[Toetag Inc.]

HMmmm... I have to say, with all due respect, that the obsession with attempting to disparage people using allusions to their sexuality and/or gender appears to be quite distinctive to this forum.  It would seem, perhaps, that it is only a few personalities on this forum.

...Tag, you and I should chat sometime..You sound like you have your head on straight!

Lexa, given that you and Tag both have each other as your very first friends in your respective MySpace profiles, I imagine you two already chat a great deal.  Does make one wonder just how to adjudge whatever else you have to say...  With all due respect, of course!

Yes, of course with all do respect. lol

[Toetag Inc.]

I think Ursus is female.

I also think Elanified Fucks from the 80's are damaged goods ( not entirely their own fault), as it seems Elan was very different back then.

You can all now stop, and sleep well tonight knowing that Elan has definately changed rather significantly for the good, perhaps because of this forum and perhaps not.

I have to say I agree to Ursus being a female.LOL
Tag, you and I should chat sometime..You sound like you have your head on straight!

I guess I am an Elanified Fuck from the 80's
Back then I would have told you to "Leave my friend Ursus alone of I will attack you Physically!!"
For now I will just say if you want to insult People on this Forum use the Private Messages.
Nobody wants to hear anybodys half-baked opinion.
Now you can stop playing G-d and come back down to earth.

<----- Is coming back down to Earth now. sorry bout that

If anyone on here was that serious about closing Elan down they would have just drove up there and simply burned the place to the ground themselves. As it stands no one has the balls to do it as of yet, so we continue to bicker amongst ourselves, in my opinion the cause is already lost. Although as previously stated, this very forum my be one of the contributing factors to Elan's fundamental changes in concept. As Lexa has stated we both speak to current Elan staff and the place is very different these days. I am very sorry for those of you who got put there in the 80's, what can be done to help you?

[Toetag Inc.]

HMmmm... I have to say, with all due respect, that the obsession with attempting to disparage people using allusions to their sexuality and/or gender appears to be quite distinctive to this forum.  It would seem, perhaps, that it is only a few personalities on this forum.

...Tag, you and I should chat sometime..You sound like you have your head on straight!

Lexa, given that you and Tag both have each other as your very first friends in your respective MySpace profiles, I imagine you two already chat a great deal.  Does make one wonder just how to adjudge whatever else you have to say...  With all due respect, of course!

I simply made the statement that I think your a woman, not to disparage you in any way, as a matter of fact there was no negative element in that sentence at all. I also said nothing about your sexuality, only gender. Considering the torture and suffering that goes on around the World, I'm just saying I think that washing the floor and screaming at each other isn't all that bad by comparison. Good job on your Myspace research, both of us only posted thread topics a few days ago that we were in Elan together at the same time. Perhaps we both feel we have better things to talk to everyone about Elan, than constant ART/Dave/NAZI/Who ever childish back and forth krap. Thats all I'm saying.

As far as Hyde goes, I have never been there and no nothing about it. Thats why I'm not posting in the "hyde" forum. I was at Elan thats why I choose to talk about Elan, not some place else.

[Ursus]

I guess I am an Elanified Fuck from the 80's
Back then I would have told you to "Leave my friend Ursus alone of I will attack you Physically!!"
For now I will just say if you want to insult People on this Forum use the Private Messages.
Nobody wants to hear anybodys half-baked opinion.
Now you can stop playing G-d and come back down to earth.

Thanks for your vote, Eliscu2.  And yeah, folks, please feel free to PM me; you can eviscerate me much more thoroughly that way!

If anyone on here was that serious about closing Elan down they would have just drove up there and simply burned the place to the ground themselves. As it stands no one has the balls to do it as of yet, so we continue to bicker amongst ourselves, in my opinion the cause is already lost.

Interesting that you should mention that, Tag.  Two kids tried to burn Hyde down during the summer of 1975.  Part of my time, yes, although I was not present during the particular moment of incineration.  The two blokes got sent away somewhere else after that, not exactly sure where, probably some serious lockdown.  But the act did not succeed in closing the place.

And Hidden Lake Academy just had a mysterious fire about a month ago.  And that doesn't seem to have worked, either, although it is rather unclear as to who exactly set that fire.  You'd be amazed at the insurance specifics these places have!

As far as Hyde goes, I have never been there and no nothing about it.

That hasn't stopped others.  No need to be shy!  

Seriously, Tag, you should try perusing other Fora around here some more.  Once you get past the idiomatic cliche's that all these places use to personalize their particular shitpit, er... institution, it's amazing how similar certain themes are.  I suspect you and I might disagree with regard to certain elements of the current Elan, and that's okay too.  I respect your opinion.  

Okay, so tell me this:  how do you think the administration of the current Elan should deal with the psychological carnage it wrought back in its early days?  Should Elan be morally absolved from its past, or should it be held accountable?  Does the current Elan even acknowledge the shit that went down?

[Toetag Inc.]

I guess I am an Elanified Fuck from the 80's
Back then I would have told you to "Leave my friend Ursus alone of I will attack you Physically!!"
For now I will just say if you want to insult People on this Forum use the Private Messages.
Nobody wants to hear anybodys half-baked opinion.
Now you can stop playing G-d and come back down to earth.

Thanks for your vote, Eliscu2.  And yeah, folks, please feel free to PM me; you can eviscerate me much more thoroughly that way!

If anyone on here was that serious about closing Elan down they would have just drove up there and simply burned the place to the ground themselves. As it stands no one has the balls to do it as of yet, so we continue to bicker amongst ourselves, in my opinion the cause is already lost.

Interesting that you should mention that, Tag.  Two kids tried to burn Hyde down during the summer of 1975.  Part of my time, yes, although I was not present during the particular moment of incineration.  The two blokes got sent away somewhere else after that, not exactly sure where, probably some serious lockdown.  But the act did not succeed in closing the place.

And Hidden Lake Academy just had a mysterious fire about a month ago.  And that doesn't seem to have worked, either, although it is rather unclear as to who exactly set that fire.  You'd be amazed at the insurance specifics these places have!

As far as Hyde goes, I have never been there and no nothing about it.

That hasn't stopped others.  No need to be shy!  

Seriously, Tag, you should try perusing other Fora around here some more.  Once you get past the idiomatic cliche's that all these places use to personalize their particular shitpit, er... institution, it's amazing how similar certain themes are.  I suspect you and I might disagree with regard to certain elements of the current Elan, and that's okay too.  I respect your opinion.  

Okay, so tell me this:  how do you think the administration of the current Elan should deal with the psychological carnage it wrought back in its early days?  Should Elan be morally absolved from its past, or should it be held accountable?  Does the current Elan even acknowledge the shit that went down?

If you were a student of Hyde School in 1975 then you are half in the box already. Are you going to pursue these fruitless ventures well into your retirement? I have no need read any other school forums on Fornits as I never attended any of these other programs and I am very confident that although they may seem similar to Elan, they are in fact not.

I feel that the issues of Elan's past have been resolved by the new, more acceptable path that the program of today seems to  be following.  "Psychological carnage", thats pretty rediculous, its seems to me it went two ways: one, you were an ass, and consequently treated as such, two you did the right thing and were rewarded.

Phil died due to a pre-exisiting medical condition. I was in the ring myself on the good side and believe me it is very hard to inflict damage with rediculously over-sized boxing gloves and head gear.

I highly doubt anyone was made to "live in a dumpster, shackled to it". If they were, good maybe they deserved it. I saw some pretty shitty kids in Elan in my brief 18 months there.

As far as the psychological mind fuck by staff, I just ignored it as I think anyone with half of a brain in there, when I was, did themselves.

Perhaps to the spoiled brat used to all the finer things in life , Elan was a huge wake up call. But, for others like me who had been in much worse, Elan was a welcome change for the better. Now they have a nationally ranked track and field team. This statement alone should convince you just how different it is now.

Most of the shitty staff who worked there, after they graduated as students, are so old now their time left is limited.

There current student population is now almost twice what it was when I was there, that alone speaks volumes. Even with this website and others like it, parents are sending their shitty little offspring there in record numbers.

In my most humble opinion, when the whole latch key kid era started, it was the begining of the end. Without proper parental care and involvement, we can expect to see a lot more children ending up in Elan. I say this as a former latch key kid and a now soon to be parent. :roll:

And no Ursus not enough smiles. :lol:

 Felice I will personally drive to WI tonight just to watch you attack me physically. Be nice, you are far to sexy to be that angry.

[Ursus]

...you are half in the box already. Are you going to pursue these fruitless ventures well into your retirement?

Wait 'till you see how fast the time goes once you hit your mid-30s.  Two blicks, and you'll be standing in my shoes!  Ha!

I feel that the issues of Elan's past have been resolved by the new, more acceptable path that the program of today seems to  be following.

Oh... the "kinder, gentler formula of thought reform?"  Thought reform is a funny thing, Tag, some people do seem to tolerate it better than others.  And yet, to some pure souls, it is a real anathema.  It also would appear to be at odds with certain elements of our constitution, but I'm probably overreaching myself for the moment on that one.

"Psychological carnage", thats pretty rediculous, its seems to me it went two ways: one, you were an ass, and consequently treated as such, two you did the right thing and were rewarded.

And just who made that judgment call as to what was "the right thing?"  From what I've read here it seems that there were an awful lot of people who were treated like asses for the simple crime of not being compliant with expectations.  And what exactly was the "reward" for falling in line?

Phil died due to a pre-exisiting medical condition. I was in the ring myself on the good side and believe me it is very hard to inflict damage with rediculously over-sized boxing gloves and head gear.

Can't pass judgment on the initial part of the scenario.  Brain aneurysms sometimes burst for seemingly inexplicable reasons, although any kind of "boxing" would fall into a suspiciously grey area of potential cause.  Nonetheless, where Elan was unquestionably negligent in was their failure to seek appropriate medical attention in the aftermath.  That might well have saved Phil's life.

As far as the psychological mind fuck by staff, I just ignored it as I think anyone with half of a brain in there, when I was, did themselves.

Perhaps to the spoiled brat used to all the finer things in life , Elan was a huge wake up call. But, for others like me who had been in much worse, Elan was a welcome change for the better. Now they have a nationally ranked track and field team. This statement alone should convince you just how different it is now.

There are more student profiles than just spoiled brats and savvy seen-it-alls.  I'm glad you were able to put the psychological mind fuck in its proper perspective and to work the system to your advantage, but not everyone has such good survival instincts such as yourself.  Some kids enter such a hornet's nest completely unprepared and ill-versed in the means of manipulating the psycho mumbo-jumbo in a manner where they might come out on top, let alone side-step being creamed.  What happened to them?  Not as simple as whether they had half a brain or not.  Their life experience simply did not prepare them for this.

There current student population is now almost twice what it was when I was there, that alone speaks volumes. Even with this website and others like it, parents are sending their shitty little offspring there in record numbers.

Do you think this is due to the "changed" Elan, or perhaps due to other changes in the "Troubled Teen Industry" at large?  Enrollment in Industry Institutions has increased vastly in excess of two-fold in the past twenty years.  I'd say it was closer to ten-fold, and might even be more than that.

In my most humble opinion, when the whole latch key kid era started, it was the begining of the end. Without proper parental care and involvement, we can expect to see a lot more children ending up in Elan. I say this as a former latch key kid and a now soon to be parent. :roll:

I sure do agree with you there, but it doesn't look like the current US work culture will change anytime soon.  Most families need two working adults to make ends meet these days, if they can even make those ends meet, let alone the circumstances facing the rising number of single parent families.

Congrats on your soon to be changed status!  When is the approximate date of expectation? ::cheers::

[Ursus]

Elan was shit OK in the 70's 80's my heart goes out to anyone doing time in those years, but truth is noone cares never have and never will all our stories fall on depth ears. And what stories we have.

Elan misfit  early 70's

In light of thoughts expressed by Tag, and myself, I am curious, OK, what your mindset was when you started at Elan?

[Toetag Inc.]

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[Toetag Inc.]

Just what exactly did you mean by BLICK?


Webster's Revised Unabridged Dictionary - Cite This Source


blick

Fulguration Ful"gu*ra`tion, n. [L. fulguratio: cf. F. fulguration.] 1. The act of lightening. [R.] --Donne.

2. (Assaying) The sudden brightening of a fused globule of gold or silver, when the last film of the oxide of lead or copper leaves its surface; -- also called blick.

A phenomenon called, by the old chemists, fulguration. --Ure.
Webster's Revised Unabridged Dictionary, © 1996, 1998 MICRA, Inc.
Webster's Revised Unabridged Dictionary - Cite This Source

blick

Bleak Bleak, n. [From Bleak, a., cf. Blay.] (Zo["o]l.) A small European river fish (Leuciscus alburnus), of the family Cyprinid[ae]; the blay. [Written also blick.]

Note: The silvery pigment lining the scales of the bleak is used in the manufacture of artificial pearls. --Baird.
Webster's Revised Unabridged Dictionary, © 1996, 1998 MICRA, Inc.

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Blick is a Swiss daily newspaper with a circulation of 275,000 (in 2004) and a readership of 750,000 (ISSN 1013-0667). Only the free daily 20 Minuten has a higher circulation in Switzerland.

The German language newspaper is published since 1959 by Ringier.

The Sunday edition Sonntagsblick has a circulation of 300,000.

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So black that one appears slick- like oil.

I thought I was dark til I seen dat nigga- his ass is blick!
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a person who is so dark they blend with the night sky,
sometimes are barely noticeable when light are switched off

a blick african you see down the road
a usful song ba ba blick sheep have any bleach?
tags charcoal mr blick night oil dark
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blick(n) - South African in origin, often thought to be a bastardisation of Milk, but now known to be otherwise. Made famous by that South African banker in 'Lethal Weapon 2'

1. I will get in mai BMW cah, and run over some pesky blicks.
2. But...but you're blick.
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An expression of disgust; an expression of indifference; random word said with no meaning

"Blick." she said in digust.
tags neh nya whatever eew ick
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when someone is so tinted out see that at night and they blend in the dark

blick,blick land where the monkeys frown
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What townies are. Basically a white person desperatly trying to be black and so acting in a sterotypially black way.

Townie) Yeah man...i'm blick INNIT!!!*swaggers and cracks knuckles*
Everyone else) Yeah.... *walks away*
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Verb (v)

To completely destroy/enialate either by violence or sexual activity.

Last night Drew pretended to be an angry black woman and said
"bitch, im gonna blick yo vagina."

...and he did indeed blick her vagina.

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Eng: (adj) an undefinable, incomprihsable state
German: View, vista

Its kinda like meh, bleh, or keh, or all those other "i have no identifiable emotions' words

today was fairly blick, i need a drink
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1)like heavy but not as good!

2)dark skin coloured!

yea i saw it...was blick!

is he blick?!?
nah, half cast!!
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Small Penis, less than 3 inches fully erected. So small that it cannot reach the "G-Spot".

James Gilbraith
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Shows unhappiness. Like yuck.

I hate homework. Blick!
tags yuck gross ugh boo hiss
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when after 7 generations a person in a white family turns out to be black!

"why do u look black when you are white?"
"because im blick yo"
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used to describe sumting good

sick like blick bredrin
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Verb: The action of hitting something or something being hit in someway

Did you see that football player get blicked!

Just what exactly did you mean by BLICK?

[Toetag Inc.]

...you are half in the box already. Are you going to pursue these fruitless ventures well into your retirement?

Wait 'till you see how fast the time goes once you hit your mid-30s.  Two blicks, and you'll be standing in my shoes!  Ha!

"Psychological carnage", thats pretty rediculous, its seems to me it went two ways: one, you were an ass, and consequently treated as such, two you did the right thing and were rewarded.

And just who made that judgment call as to what was "the right thing?"  From what I've read here it seems that there were an awful lot of people who were treated like asses for the simple crime of not being compliant with expectations.  And what exactly was the "reward" for falling in line?

I sure do agree with you there, but it doesn't look like the current US work culture will change anytime soon.  Most families need two working adults to make ends meet these days, if they can even make those ends meet, let alone the circumstances facing the rising number of single parent families.

Amen.

[Ursus]

::roflmao::  ::roflmao::  ::roflmao::  ::roflmao::
Priceless, Tag!  My typo, meant to say "blink," but your contributions were way more interesting!  By the way, the Swiss-German version of "blick" would have sufficed, meaning look/view, close enough to blink, at least as far as involvement of the eye is concerned!

Do supply a link to "Webster's Revised Unabridged Dictionary," I do like dictionaries.  My usual choice is Merriam-Webster's, it must have one of the shortest website addresses around:  http://www.m-w.com/

For anyone that is interested in the source of the remainder of Tag's "BLICK" post, check out one of my old favorites:
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=blick

Thanks for that priceless post!   :tup: