Interesting tidbit from the mouth of the ca-ca fatcat, Izzy.

[Anonymous]

Didn't know it had already been posted.  My mistake.  Just trying to help.

[psy]

Is this how you treat people who come here to help you.  I thought you'd be interested/happy to get the information on TB closing, since there is so much talk about here.

I think you owe me an apology. I know you guys were mentioned on the site I am on, and thought you'd appreciate the headsup, I just want to get this information out to everyone.  I guess I was mistaken for coming here to help if this is how you treat people.

Look.  this isn't the thread to post information about TB in... especially since it has already been posted here before.  Also.  This isn't exactly new info here on Fornits.  Rumors of TB's closing have been floating around for a few months now.

We appreciate the heads up, but do it somewhere else, please.  This thread is about a corrupt advocate, who will, no doubt try and take credit for TB's closing.  changing the topic, in my opinion, is most likely the attempt by that particular corrupt advocate to deflect from her own crimes (distraction tactic).  If you are legit, you won't be viewed as such in this thread if you continue to harp on this subject.  Please, take your information to another thread.

[Anonymous]

Didn't know it had already been posted.  My mistake.  Just trying to help.

[Anonymous]

Who is this "we" that people refer to?
As far as I can tell this thread has people posting who are:
ex-program parents
ex-program staffs
current program parents
parents of kids murdered in programs
survivors of programs

Why can't it be more harmonious??? Look at the fucking list!  :roll:

[nimdA]

What qualifies Izzy to make suggestions to alternatives?

A good heart, some common sense and a telephone.

Where is the source of her qualifications for her life coaching?

Living life!

So in short she has none of the academic qualifications, professional qualifications, or the benifit of any first hand experience to suggest any sort of alternatives.

Also is that living life, or living large?

[psy]

Who is this "we" that people refer to?

In the off chance that you were, indeed, who you say you were, "we" would be a greeting of "thanks for the gesture" from most of the people on fornits.  My comment was an attempt at a being polite.  I VERY RARELY speak like that.... Unlike Isabelle Zehnder, who makes a consistent habit out of posting (and blogging) in the third person.

[psy]

From WWASP vs PURE case"

"WWASP lawyer: Well, we have got what, 287 posts by Lara, Deb C., Hilda, Lara, Deb C., Lara, Tracy, Brittany Reese, those are all you?

Sue Scheff: Yes."

elsewhere:

"Sue Scheff: I made a lot of postings with various pseudonyms, Yes"

[psy]

I don't think I need to remind people here that this thread is as much about PURE's tie to CAICA as it is about Isabelle Zehnder.... And Sue Scheff does not want to be publicly tied to her marketing department... her veil of legitimacy.

[Anonymous]

67 pages might want to consider condensing down and starting a new one.

[Anonymous]

As far as I can tell this thread has people posting who are:
ex-program parents
ex-program staffs
current program parents
parents of kids murdered in programs
survivors of programs



Let's not forget the cult members of WWasp,
and people unqualified to refer people to programs,
and so-called advocates that are refering people to a x-cult member, someone trying to coach parents and children, with no quailfications.
then there are people who are observing all this.
just to be fair.

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[Anonymous]

Isabelle was afraid to go into Washington because she thought somebody was going to shoot her? Did I imagine that comment? That's not healthy paranoia, that's delusional levels.

[Anonymous]

At one point Isabelle was afraid to attend the Capitol for fear that someone would kill her.  I didn't make her attend this event.  It was her choice to further her cause.

Yep, there it is.

[psy]

Isabelle was afraid to go into Washington because she thought somebody was going to shoot her? Did I imagine that comment? That's not healthy paranoia, that's delusional levels.

If I sit in a restaurant, i need to sit in a corner seat, so nobody is behind me.  I have other paranoid traits that I would rather not mention.  I admit, I'm pretty paranoid.  But programs do that to people.  I am at a loss as to what could make Isabelle so paranoid.  Granted, although WWASP has handed out death threats and called people in the middle of the night, I don't think they would actually carry out a public assassination (capitol building?  After 9/11?!?! With all the snipers?!??!).  If they really wanted to bump Izzy off, it would be best done at the local McDonalds.

[Anonymous]

I wonder if the unregulated nature of this industry attracts mentally ill people, who put their insane energy to use "doing god's work"?  Who types up like 200 blogs, that's approaching homeless bag guy in the library crazy, and thinking people are out to hurt you? Tell me why I couldn't run a child-advocate scheme out of my mental hospital room, and I have a prize for you.

[Anonymous]

Both Scheff and Zehnder appear to share some rather odd personality traits.   The incessant ME, ME, ME promotion isn't just over the top, it may be indicative of some sort of obsessive/compulsive personality disorder or problems with self-esteem, body image, etc.

Just my two cents.  I am not a psychiatrist.