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Interesting tidbit from the mouth of the ca-ca fatcat, Izzy.
« Reply #105 on: June 08, 2007, 01:05:30 AM »
First Isabelle Zehnder attacks a parent in her Whitmore Blogs....now she is attacking a program survivor?
Strange, when someone speaks out in this industry (be it a parent or a program survivor) they get attacked,  by a self-proclaimed advocate, Isabelle Zehnder?
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« Reply #106 on: June 08, 2007, 01:13:03 AM »
What sort of problem might arise if it is discovered that any of the victims in the Turley lawsuit against WWASP were transported to their "abusive WWASP FACILITY" by Sunrise Adolescent Transport?

It is reported that Sunrise Adolescent Transport is owned by Julie Thompson, a former employee of WWASP's TEEN HELP.

Isabelle Zehnder seems to be very involved in the Turley lawsuit. Since Zehnder's own email reveals that she referred to Sunrise Adolescent Transport, which reportedly transports children to WWASP facilities--is this some sort of "conflict of interest?"
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« Reply #107 on: June 08, 2007, 01:43:44 AM »
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What sort of problem might arise if it is discovered that any of the victims in the Turley lawsuit against WWASP were transported to their "abusive WWASP FACILITY" by Sunrise Adolescent Transport?

It is reported that Sunrise Adolescent Transport is owned by Julie Thompson, a former employee of WWASP's TEEN HELP.

Isabelle Zehnder seems to be very involved in the Turley lawsuit. Since Zehnder's own email reveals that she referred to Sunrise Adolescent Transport, which reportedly transports children to WWASP facilities--is this some sort of "conflict of interest?"


Just so ya know... By joining the Turley lawsuit, they agree not to Sue SueSue for any referrals she might have made.  I wonder why....
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« Reply #108 on: June 08, 2007, 10:11:57 AM »
That cunt sue has been manipulating the parents in the Turley lawsuit to cover her ass for the longest old time.

Its all about CYA for sue.

Much like using Izzy as her fall bitch. Good work all around and I only hope this leads for the full implication of Sue as the one pulling the strings.

None of you really believe Izzawhore is smart enough to make a decision on her own?

Like I say.. She has been Sue's little fall bitch for the longest damn time now. Now that she is outted I bet that we will see Sue flushing Izzawhore like a corn speckled floater.
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« Reply #109 on: June 08, 2007, 10:41:49 AM »
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What sort of problem might arise if it is discovered that any of the victims in the Turley lawsuit against WWASP were transported to their "abusive WWASP FACILITY" by Sunrise Adolescent Transport?

It is reported that Sunrise Adolescent Transport is owned by Julie Thompson, a former employee of WWASP's TEEN HELP.

Isabelle Zehnder seems to be very involved in the Turley lawsuit. Since Zehnder's own email reveals that she referred to Sunrise Adolescent Transport, which reportedly transports children to WWASP facilities--is this some sort of "conflict of interest?"


I would like to once again, try to explain that Izzy and Sue have nothing to do with this law suit. If they want to advertise it, and act like they are the big wheels rolling it,  there isn't anything much that can be done to stop them. But you all ought to know - these two are not about honesty and full disclosure. They are trying to project an image - and for now it suits their purpose to pretend they are involved with this case.

If they happen to speak with survivors or the parents, and suggest they call Turley and see about joining this action - well - they are hardly alone. Many others do as much - and probably more - they just don't go around bragging about it.

There are indications that the law firm itself is not happy with this image Sue and Izzy are attempting to project with regard to the case - but I don't feel comfortable explaining details on an open forum about a case that is active. Its not as if I am in any way privileged to "inside info" -  but as you might imagine, I do hear a bit about it from time to time.

As I tried to explain before - I think (as in speculate) they are avoiding the distraction of going after Sue more because of the mess it might create with other parents who did a lot of referring, than out of any concern for her.

I also *speculate* others are working on the problem of PURE, and possibly CACA; and if so, will no doubt be able to concentrate on that problem - and so do a more effective job. Just as Turley is concentrating on WWASPS, so as to be able to do a more effective job.

I have seen every indication they are doing what needs to be done, to do  the job they have said they intend to do.

Now - the only reason I feel a need to try and provide my perspective, is a concern that kids who really ought to call Turley about this case, might not, if they see you guys going on about the involvement of these two  (well, call them what you will. You know who I mean) when in truth they have nothing to do with it.

Psy - as to your very interesting post of last night - way to go dude. More power to ya.  

I'm not sure I understand whats up with these emails you got from Izzy. . . Did she think she had found relevant person's home addresses - and send the email in an attempt to prove it - so as to scare you? Do I have that right?

If so, I'd guess it is more about having you fear her filing a case against you - which she would need a home address to do; as opposed to a threat to do a hit - but then again - who knows what she is capable of? She has never yet ceased to amaze me.
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Interesting tidbit from the mouth of the ca-ca fatcat, Izzy.
« Reply #110 on: June 08, 2007, 11:55:22 AM »
Quote from: ""A Program's Worst Nightmare""
Now that she is outted I bet that we will see Sue flushing Izzawhore like a corn speckled floater.


 :rofl:  :rofl:  :rofl:
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« Reply #111 on: June 08, 2007, 12:06:48 PM »
Buzzkill, there's a big difference in parents who referred other parents to WWASP programs to recieve "a thousand dollars or so off their child's tuition" and in Sue Scheff referring to WWASP programs and receiving a pay check to her COMPANY , PURE.

According to the WWASP vs PURE transcripts, Sue Scheff continued to refer parents and their children to WWASP programs, for what? some 9 months after she started PURE?
Scheff was NOT a "parent referrer" during this time period---Scheff was running a company--PURE.

No one is criticizing any parent who referred to WWASP who may have recieved reduced tuition for their child.  No one is criticizing any parent, PERIOD.
People are criticizing Sue Scheff who continued to refer parents and their children to WWASP programs AFTER she started PURE; and it is offensive when this behavior by Sue Scheff /PURE appears to be excused on any level.
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« Reply #112 on: June 08, 2007, 12:09:38 PM »
What is with all the address dropping lately?

Is that supposed to imply some sort of violent threat?

Does anyone else find it as hilarious as I do the idea of Izabelle showing up at Psy's doorstep and threatening to eat him?
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« Reply #113 on: June 08, 2007, 12:11:07 PM »
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What is with all the address dropping lately?

Is that supposed to imply some sort of violent threat?

Does anyone else find it as hilarious as I do the idea of Izabelle showing up at Psy's doorstep and threatening to eat him?


To busy chowing down on corn to find room for Psy.
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« Reply #114 on: June 08, 2007, 12:14:05 PM »


ME HUNGRY!

STOP HURTING MY BUSINESS!

I HATE YOU ALL!

I NEED MORE FOOD!
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« Reply #115 on: June 08, 2007, 12:29:13 PM »
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Buzzkill, there's a big difference in parents who referred other parents to WWASP programs to recieve "a thousand dollars or so off their child's tuition" and in Sue Scheff referring to WWASP programs and receiving a pay check to her COMPANY , PURE.

According to the WWASP vs PURE transcripts, Sue Scheff continued to refer parents and their children to WWASP programs, for what? some 9 months after she started PURE?
Scheff was NOT a "parent referrer" during this time period---Scheff was running a company--PURE.

No one is criticizing any parent who referred to WWASP who may have recieved reduced tuition for their child.  No one is criticizing any parent, PERIOD.
People are criticizing Sue Scheff who continued to refer parents and their children to WWASP programs AFTER she started PURE; and it is offensive when this behavior by Sue Scheff /PURE appears to be excused on any level.


I agree Anon, there is a big difference in that respect.  All told, SS referred how many kids to WWASPS?  Whatever the number, I seriously doubt any of these parents in this lawsuit even came close to the number of kids SS ultimately placed in a WWASPS program through PURE.  Why, she even had a reference/testimonial from Randall Hinton confirming her relationship to Teen Help (who handled her "referrals") posted on PURE at one point.
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« Reply #116 on: June 08, 2007, 12:41:43 PM »
The real question is how many of those lawsuit parents would of kept referring kids after they found out a bout their own child being mistreated? There are lots of referers out there, but how many will use their own kid as part of their business? Oh wait.. almost all of them,, disgusting bunch arent they.
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« Reply #117 on: June 08, 2007, 03:13:54 PM »
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ME HUNGRY!

STOP HURTING MY BUSINESS!

I HATE YOU ALL!

I NEED MORE FOOD!


Man, I was eating lunch when I saw that...lentil soup came out of my nose, I nearly choked.  She really looks like a bus driver I had in elementary school who got her kicks running over dogs.
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« Reply #118 on: June 08, 2007, 03:31:57 PM »
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Buzzkill, there's a big difference in parents who referred other parents to WWASP programs to recieve "a thousand dollars or so off their child's tuition" and in Sue Scheff referring to WWASP programs and receiving a pay check to her COMPANY , PURE. According to the WWASP vs PURE transcripts, Sue Scheff continued to refer parents and their children to WWASP programs for what? some 9 months after she started PURE? Scheff was NOT a "parent referrer" during this time period---Scheff was running a company--PURE. No one is criticizing any parent who referred to WWASP who may have recieved reduced tuition for their child.  No one is criticizing any parent, PERIOD. People are criticizing Sue Scheff who continued to refer parents and their children to WWASP programs AFTER she started PURE; and it is offensive when this behavior by Sue Scheff /PURE appears to be excused on any level.


Yes, yes - of corse. Not saying otherwise. Nor do I think anyone, is in anyway excusing this. Certainly that is not my intent.  Nor do I believe that a law firm deciding to focus their attention on the primary source of harm, to in any way be excusing the harmful actions of other parties.  I expect that if there is a case against another party, it will be brought about in due time, but someone able to give it the attention it deserves.  

I was simply responding to yet another suggestion that this case is compromised b/c of  Izzy, and or Sue. I only intended to point out that they are not involved, despite their pretension. This, and that I hope any kid with a potential case will not be discouraged from calling this law firm and seeing what they can do for them, b/c of the frequent, yet false suggestion, that these two women are somehow deeply involved - as if they are dictating policy in some way. Nothing could be further from the truth.  

But I fear we have gone a bit off topic. Back to the issue at hand. . .

So, Izzy most certainly IS doing referrals. And she is referring to those with ties to WWASPS - those who in effect actually still work for WWASP by "escorting" to their programs - and Izzy is attempting to intimidate those who have ferreted out this information.  OK, this seems beyond dispute - Psy says he can prove it - so I am sure he can indeed prove it.

I wonder if she knew this, or if she simply didn't do her home work and got caught with her pants down - and so is getting her ass kicked. Think maybe Sue gave her these names and she just trusted Sue to give her  *good* sources, and so got burned? How is it she found these people anyway?  Why on God's Green Earth send a parent to them? Why not admit, oh my gosh - I was wrong and I will stop this foolishness? What could it be that makes her do the things she does? It seems she has taken after her mentor and is putting some other motivation over and above that of keeping kids safe from institutional child abuse. My guess is that motivation is cash. Its all I can think of that would explain her actions. Guess we'll have to wait for another blog to see what she has to say on the subject.
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« Reply #119 on: June 08, 2007, 04:13:13 PM »
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Quote from: ""Guest""

ME HUNGRY!

STOP HURTING MY BUSINESS!

I HATE YOU ALL!

I NEED MORE FOOD!

Man, I was eating lunch when I saw that...lentil soup came out of my nose, I nearly choked.  She really looks like a bus driver I had in elementary school who got her kicks running over dogs.

Yeah.. it was funny..  :rofl:
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