TSW, do you still work for 3 Shits? 'Cause you're probably doing them and other programs a big favor by trying to derail Psy's effort here. Lon's little forum may not be down forever, but maybe he will decide to leave it down for quite awhile -- until a new crop of unsuspecting parents come around looking for "help" -- or maybe he'll reopen soon and just ban many of the former ST regulars.
Many of those STers are coming here and are welcoming the opportunity to hear the other side, to hear from survivors and ex-staff like you. Some of us really enjoy Fornits, but for a different reason, and others may lurk but will never try to have a real dialog there.
Think about what you're doing.
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Yo 70's punk. I'll let you off for that slip of the tongue this one time. Do it again and I won't be so nice next time.
How about this question? Who are you referring for? What companies are you helping parents send their kids to?
Think on it. Works both ways slappy.
I wish you'd posted the version after I edited it, but the gist is the same. My point was that for all the good that Fornits does in exposing this shitty industry, the fact is Fornits doesn't really reach all the potential program parents who might not even realize what a huge landmine they are about to step on. Some parents might be put off by the attacks, others maybe just don't want to wade through all the chit-chat to find the real truth that is buried in these archives.
I like the idea of what Psy is trying to do with his new forum, and I think it can fulfill a need that Fornits doesn't quite fill -- and that ST could only fulfill by private messages that are very contrary to Lon's business goals.
Who am I referring for? That's pretty funny. I'm referring parents to stay away from this industry, for the sake of anonymous kids that I'll never meet. I know of at least a few parents whose eyes I helped open and a few kids I may have had some small hand in saving from a program fate.
I enjoyed reading your Reggie White PMs, especially this one from Galen:
Galen Says:
Hi Reggie,
You definitely have to consider the source of any information you receive. I did receive some very negative information about the school we chose for our son. I did visit the school before we enrolled him, to check it out for myself. So weigh the information you receive very carefully. There are some people here (some parents, some former program kids) who are anti programs of any sort.
I remember PM'ing her on ST about Boulder Creek Academy, including links to some Fornits threads and all the shit I could find on that place. But you can't win 'em all -- she sent him anyway.
As great as it is that Fornits activists try to get programs shut down, remember it's the parents and their cash that fuel this industry. If enough people tried to educate enough would-be program parents and just tried to save one kid at a time, that too would make a big difference.
I wish someone had gotten to me before I became a supreme sucker and handed over my kid to a wilderness program. Now I guess I feel it's my moral duty to try to do that for other kids and their parents.
