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« Reply #15 on: May 16, 2007, 09:00:03 AM »
http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary

Main Entry: adjective[/i]
1 a : open to question : DEBATABLE b : subjected to discussion : DISPUTED
2 : deprived of practical significance : made abstract or purely academic
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« Reply #16 on: May 16, 2007, 09:47:16 AM »
I think the guest should be a bit more niggardly with his or her aggressive comments.
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« Reply #17 on: May 16, 2007, 09:52:52 AM »
Quote from: ""Truth Searcher""
Guest asked:
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What is a "moot" anyway.

A moot point is one that is debatable.  Something that is hypothetical.  So saying that Tammy Faye Bakkers clinging to God is comparable to Sembler clinging to Straight is ... IMHO ... debatable.

Now see,you learn something every day.
I thought "moot" rhymed with "hoot",and that could mean that you dont give a hoot about me,and that could translate,to a person like me, that you dont think my original post has merit.

You should be more careful throwing your big words around here just to show your ass because somebody might get hurt.

Please stay ON TOPIC next time.
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« Reply #18 on: May 16, 2007, 09:58:06 AM »
Quote from: ""Three Springs Waygookin""
I think the guest should be a bit more niggardly with his or her aggressive comments.

Not as niggardly as I will be with that Choco-Pie.

TSW should be more niggardly with his bragging about his Korean Sauna escapades :rofl: !!!

But seriously,are they still pumping musk scented air freshener in to the subway cars to mask the GOD AWFUL BAD KOREAN BREATH,or do they just do that during the International APAIC Meetings?
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« Reply #19 on: May 16, 2007, 10:25:15 AM »
Nope me old son.. You still gotta hold your nose for the majority of the tragic affair. Though I've been here so long I can't tell the difference between rank garlic breath and rank garlic B.O.

Time to head home for some vacation. Remind myself what them white wimmen look like.
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« Reply #20 on: May 16, 2007, 10:41:19 AM »
Quote from: ""Three Springs Waygookin""
Nope me old son.. You still gotta hold your nose for the majority of the tragic affair. Though I've been here so long I can't tell the difference between rank garlic breath and rank garlic B.O.

Time to head home for some vacation. Remind myself what them white wimmen look like.


What about the white wimmen in Korea?
Ive been HERE so long that they all look strange to me,big heads and fat asses.
I dont know if its because they are mostly Australians and Europeans or if its because Ive been looking at all of these Asians.

Ill tell you though,Ill take the Korean garlic breath over the American fish pussy any day.
The only problem I have is my dick bottoms out before I can get it all the way in,and then they crimp it so tight its like putting a tight rubber band on before ejaculating.
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« Reply #21 on: May 16, 2007, 10:55:28 AM »
And check this one out...

FW pastor suspended after rape accusations
Woman's lawsuit brought out 8 others' stories, her lawyers say
12:02 PM CDT on Saturday, May 12, 2007
By MICHAEL GRABELL / The Dallas Morning News
mgrabell@dallasnews.com

A Fort Worth pastor accused of paddling and raping women under the guise of scriptural teaching has been suspended by the national body of the Church of God in Christ.

The suspension comes more than three months after a Fort Worth woman sued the Rev. Sherman C. Gee Allen of the Shiloh Institutional Church of God in Christ, contending that he repeatedly beat her with a paddle from 2001 to 2005 and forced her to have sex with him.

Since then, eight more women have come forward with similar stories, according to the woman's lawyers.

Mr. Allen, who founded the Pentecostal congregation in 1983, could not be reached for comment Friday. But he has denied the allegations in court papers.

No one has filed criminal charges in the case in recent years, Fort Worth police said. Mr. Allen was indicted on sexual assault charges in 1983, but that case was dismissed.

On Wednesday, Alayna Adams, a spokeswoman for the national church, released the church's first statement on the case.

"The Church of God in Christ does not condone inappropriate behavior from any of its representatives and does not comment on pending litigation," it said. "Until then, Pastor Sherman Allen has been suspended from all national and local pastoral roles and activities."

According to the lawsuit filed by former church member Davina Kelly, she went to Mr. Allen for spiritual counseling in November 2001. At the sessions, he would talk to her and assign her biblical passages. If she didn't read them, she would be punished, she said.

Ms. Kelly, a 34-year-old mother of three, said Mr. Allen then gave her a Bible and asked her to turn to passages such as the one that yielded the phrase "spare the rod, spoil the child."

"It ended up being a lot of Scripture on spanking for the most part – parents disciplining their children," she said in a February interview. "When he had me read them, it became obvious he meant for it to be spanking me."

The Dallas Morning News typically does not publish the names of sexual assault victims. Ms. Kelly said she wanted to come forward because she has nothing to hide.

After the third meeting, she said, Mr. Allen told her to grab her ankles and swatted her once with a green wooden paddle.

"I felt a bit confused," she said. "Afterward, he hugged me, told me he loved me. He just wanted me to obey."

The paddling escalated from there, she said, with Mr. Allen ordering her to pull down her jeans and then her underwear. Ms. Kelly said she was hesitant but believed so devoutly in Mr. Allen's power that she viewed it as a spiritual father/daughter relationship.


"I looked at him as a man of God, my pastor," she said. "I just revered him. I always thought he was hearing from God."

In addition to being a church member, Ms. Kelly volunteered cleaning the church. After Mr. Allen's wife died in 2003, she also started cleaning his house.

Around March or April 2005, Mr. Allen made sexual advances and eventually added sex as part of her punishment, she said.

Ms. Kelly eventually sought help and left the church in September 2005. But she said she didn't call police because she was afraid.

"He had literally put his hand around my throat and said that if I ever told anybody, he would hurt me," she said.

Ms. Kelly isn't alone in making the allegations.

According to a 1983 Fort Worth police report, a 21-year-old woman said she had contacted Mr. Allen about voodoo and he had promised to bring her an antidote that she could use while bathing.

But after he came to her house to talk to her one day, she blacked out, and she believed she had either been hypnotized or drugged, the report said. The woman alleged that Mr. Allen paddled her, sodomized her with a club and raped her.


Mr. Allen was arrested in a candle, incense and herb shop where he worked and was indicted on felony sexual assault charges. But the case was dismissed after Mr. Allen passed a polygraph test and the woman stopped responding to messages from the detective.

Stan Broome, an Irving lawyer representing the women, said he plans to file other lawsuits but hasn't been able to because Shiloh Institutional Church filed for bankruptcy a week after the first lawsuit was filed, barring any further lawsuits.

Mr. Broome said that the allegations span a 25-year period and that one woman was 13 when her abuse allegedly started. Three or four of the women filed complaints with the Church of God in Christ and met with church representatives, he said.

"We're glad that future victims may be protected, but we don't understand why the church, since they had full knowledge this was going on, didn't take action sooner," Mr. Broome said.
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« Reply #22 on: May 16, 2007, 11:28:26 AM »
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You should be more careful throwing your big words around here just to show your ass because somebody might get hurt.

Moot really isn't that big of a word.  4 letters really.    :lol:

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to a person like me
 ... and what exactly is 'a person like you'?  Offended a little too easily I would surmise.
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« Reply #23 on: May 16, 2007, 11:35:56 AM »
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allegations span a 25-year period ....we don't understand why the church, since they had full knowledge this was going on, didn't take action sooner


Sounds strangely similar to the Catholic church conspiracy to protect pedophile priests.  What gives?

There is a special place in hell for the likes of the Reverend Allen.
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« Reply #24 on: May 16, 2007, 12:35:44 PM »
In Texas... I'm not surprised
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« Reply #25 on: May 16, 2007, 05:14:10 PM »
Why on earth would you keep going back to that church??? Surely the minute you were asked to do something as odd as bend over you would refuse and leave!!! i can understand that the 13 year old is obviously a defenceless victim but an adult woman?
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« Reply #26 on: May 16, 2007, 06:07:49 PM »
How do adults end up becoming cult members? It's a mind game of control and some people are really good at it. It's shocking that adults could become victims of such outrageous crimes, but when it comes to authority some are more conditioned to submit while others may be scared to death to disobey.I remember a story about a preacher who would go around starting up schools for troubled kids with strong "christian discipline". He actually sexually assaulted this ladies daughter right in front of her. She was too scared to protect her daughter because she was raised in a strict catholic setting and feared disobeying a priest.
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« Reply #27 on: May 16, 2007, 06:12:44 PM »
GIRL, MOTHER TALK ABOUT PADDLING ORDEAL

    By Susan Leonard, The Arizona Republic , March 26, 1995

    Looking for a Christian school that would instill discipline in her 15-year-old daughter, the mother expected the headmaster to be strict.

    She didn't dream he would paddle the girl in the nude during an orientation session, then tell the daughter that he loved her as he loved his own children.

    According to police, that's what happened last month when mother and daughter saw Michael William Wetton at Connacht Academy Christian School in northwest Phoenix.

    Wetton, 41, was arrested Thursday and accused of forcing the girl to disrobe while he struck her buttocks with a wooden paddle three times - twice while she was naked - then making her kneel before him in prayer.

    ''Ann,'' which is not her real name, and her mother still are reeling from their ordeal.

    In an interview Friday night, both broke down in tears as they recounted events and denounced Wetton's claims that he never met the girl.

    ''All I can say is he's lying,'' said Ann, who just turned 16. ''I did meet him. I could tell you the way he looks, the way he smells, the way he talks.

    ''I never wanted to go to that school, but I would never lie about something like this.''

    Ann, who is getting therapy, also is angry with her mother for not stopping Wetton. After the first whack with the paddle, Ann said, she begged her mother to help, but her mother said no, because Ann never had listened when her mother had asked her to behave.

    The mother was present for the second and third swats and at one point told Wetton that Ann deserved to be paddled.

    The mother is remorseful, but she said fear paralyzed her when she discovered that her daughter had been forced to undress. She also says she was too intimidated to stop Wetton.

    The mother, a native of the Philippines, said she had been taught in Catholic schools not to question authority figures.

    ''I probably could have done something, but I got scared and I panicked,'' she said. ''I didn't expect any of that. I was just in shock.''

    Ann said Wetton had his hand on his groin area much of the time.

    ''I felt he was getting a thrill out of watching me,'' she said. ''He was being a pervert. It was degrading and nasty.

    ''I don't think I deserved any of it. I felt like he was tearing my soul in half. I had no dignity. He hurt me more than anybody ever has.''

    The mother said she and her husband enrolled Ann at the academy after deciding she needed a stricter environment than a public school. Her grades were falling, she had talked back to her parents and once sneaked out of their house without permission, the mother said.

    She said she knew that Wetton practiced corporal punishment and thought a school that incorporated such discipline would prompt her daughter to ''straighten up.'' But she assumed it wouldn't be used unless the girl did something terribly wrong.

    She said she paid Wetton $350 and planned to pay $10,000 more for a year of boarding at the non-accredited school at 3818 N. 67th Ave., which has 32 students.

    On Feb. 24, mother and daughter went to an orientation session with Wetton, who asked the mother to leave Ann alone with him.

    Ann said Wetton made her stand at military attention and asked what she knew about the school and whether she had any hobbies. Then he asked whether she was sexually active, to which she replied yes. He asked whether she had a boyfriend, and again Ann said yes.

    ''He said, 'You no longer have a boyfriend, because you belong to me now,' '' the girl recalled.

    She said Wetton also forbade her from speaking to any of her friends and told her he would paddle her if she didn't obey him.

    Then he told her to strip.

    The girl said she didn't want to strip but was scared.

    ''I didn't know what to do,'' she said. ''I just figured my mom must have agreed to all of this.''

    Ann said she took off her green-silk jogging suit but wouldn't remove her bra and underwear.

    ''He said, 'Do you refuse to strip?' I looked at him like he was crazy,'' Ann said.

    ''He said, 'If you don't strip completely, I'm going to hit you.'

    ''Then he picked up a paddle and hit me.''

    Ann said she ran for the door, screamed for her mother and begged her to help her get away.

    The mother said she was shocked to find Ann in her bra and panties but told her to calm down.

    ''I wasn't thinking,'' the mother said. ''I thought he would strike me if I grabbed her. That's why I kept quiet.''

    Ann said Wetton told her that if she disobeyed him, he would ''get a table, tie you to it and hit you 12 times.''

    She and her mother said that Wetton made the girl completely disrobe and hit her twice more with a paddle the size of a racquetball racket.

    Before one of the swats, Wetton demanded that Ann ask her mother whether she deserved to be hit. Her mother said yes.

    The mother said she agreed because she feared Wetton and thought that was the answer he wanted to hear.

    They said Wetton then made the girl, still nude, kneel with her hands clasped and recite the Lord's Prayer.

    After that, he apologized.

    ''He said, 'I'm sorry I had to do this to you, but I love you like I love my own daughter,' '' Ann said.

    Wetton warned her not to tell the police, Ann said, because he could convince the police that the paddlings were justified. He also told her it was normal for youngsters to be paddled.

    ''He said, 'I do this to my own kids and the kids at school - boy or girl, big or small,' '' Ann said.

    The paddlings left ''significant inflammation and welts to the buttocks of the victim,'' according to a report filed by the Phoenix police.

    That night, she and her mother took pictures of her bruised buttocks and tried to contact the police, but they say the police weren't interested in taking a report because it wasn't an emergency.

    A few days later, they contacted Phoenix attorney Gary Peter Klahr, who advised them to contact police again and wrote a letter to Wetton describing his actions as ''outrageous and shocking.''

    Wetton, who is not a state-certified teacher, is being held without bail in a Maricopa County jail on suspicion of child abuse, assault and kidnapping.

    When police arrested Wetton, students led them to two wooden paddles similar to oversized ping-pong paddles, the police report says.

    Wetton also is facing trial next month for reportedly leaving bruises on the buttocks of a 9-year-old student after a paddling in August.

    Wetton has declined to be interviewed, but his attorney, Michael Roth, said Saturday that Wetton met the girl's parents but ''never met the girl.''

    Roth said that Wetton's wife and teen-age son picked up Wetton from the school at the same time that Ann and her mother claim the orientation session took place. He also said the academy does not board students.

    In addition, he said, Wetton remembers Ann's mother saying she paddled her daughter after making her stand nude, because that's the way such punishment is done in the Philippines.

Link to nospank page on Wetton, sick fuck got a light sentence in my opinion
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« Reply #28 on: May 16, 2007, 07:59:19 PM »
That mother should be sentenced as well!!!
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« Reply #29 on: May 16, 2007, 08:04:14 PM »
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I would pay to see my daughter paddled.
 


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