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This couldn't possibly be the same Elan I was at in the 80's.Allthough what you mentioned was not appropriate, Much worse things happened there. I witnessed a close fried die in the boxing ring. Phil was a Coordinator Trainee,who complained of headaches. The Staff felt he was malingering so as not have to be C.O.D. and give haircuts from the incident book. it all boiled down to a GM and Phil was put into the ring. after 2 rounds, he fell to the floor, started vomiting and was dead. The next day, they had that hack they called a nurse come tell us he died of an anorism. There were far too many attrocities for me to post here, People on house rejection in the dead of winter, people scrubbing out dumpsters with tooth brushes. And a post above told of "strengths" beating a splitee. This was a common practice. Trackers were give what was called "open physical violence" against anyone who ran away. The house I was in was Elan 7 aka the State house. Many degrading and yes abusive things happened there. Even when you walked in the door, you were made to clean toilets with your bare hands. It was like being thrust into an alien world. I'll agree, there was some "bad" staff there, but remember, they didn't do much of the dirty work, they had us, the residents to run the asylum.
I hope things have gotten better there. They used to call themselves the "Last Resort". It's like no resort I ever want to return to.....
What are politicians going to tell people when the Constitution is gone and we still have a drug problem?
--William Simpson
In the early 90's when I hit the scene it had calmed down a tad..
What was "House rejection"?
I got booted the fuck out of my original house in a GM is that what you meant?
My God that was humiliating! The way Marc did it was ...was..I can not even think of a word good enough to describe it!
People did clean the dumpster outside of the Elan 3 kitchen door...They would bring bucket after bucket of hot water out and "GI". Although I recall no one ever "scrubbing" the insides.
You are right though, The staff just "supervised" the students "beating up" on one another..They baited them and they took the bait...They happily participated in the goings on in the house they were in..
Who is really at fault at times I wonder..I KNEW it was dead fucking wrong to treat others that way so I would not participate..something called a conscience I guess..YET...the need to "survive" overtook ones conscience at times....Kinda a fucked position to be in as a not even adult yet huh?
I used to think of a movie I saw once before Elan..A lady was told to pick one of her 2 kids to die, if she did not make the choice BOTH would die..
Elan "forced the hand" of people who would of otherwise never acted a certain way to act that way to "survive". It took a stronger person to go against the grain than to go with it in my opinion.
We all know what happened to those who went against the grain..It was not pretty my friends..No it was not...Still some were troopers and stuck to their guns..God bless em..Some called them stupid..some thought they were great..I wonder what their psychiatrists charged them after Elan to get their heads back on straight again..if ever.
