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Re: please takes more then that lame ass shit to offend me
« Reply #15 on: April 28, 2007, 10:12:20 AM »
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So yeah, fuck you people who care about Africans but not our own citizens, fuck you people who care more about animals than kids, and fuck you do-nothings who don't even care about anything at all.

 :x
What an ignorant, immature  perspective you have on the world. Thank god there are people in OTHER COUNTRIES helping us fight this fight here in this country and other countries since that's where all the rehabs seem to be moving. Or did you think we were doing this all on our own?

Get your head out of your ass. What the fuck does it have to do with being citizens? Do you know how many emails and letters i've gotten from people outside of our country that actually want to help this cause? God damn i would be ashamed for them to read some elitist bullshit like that.  FUCK YOU PEOPLE who aren't humanitarians, who only want to save the abused kids in AMERICA. I can see the comparison to animals maybe, but  children are children and I'll be damned if someone is going to judge me for wanting to help out globally. FUCK YOU!

Take a step back and realize this is a global problem and certainly spouting off your kind of bull shit is really going to HELP the children.  Give me a fucking break.  They are moving rehabs out of our country to places like FIJI, we can't do shit without the assistance of other countries now. But really if i take YOUR view why should we  once it's off US soil. OR what if half the kids in the school were sent from england, should we ONLY FOCUS on saving the AMERICANS? Are you smoking crack?  Grow the fuck up and welcome to the real world. It's a sick place, whine about PETA all you want, what a  fucking waste of energy.

So yeah FUCK ME for giving a FUCK! HELL YEAH! I'm proud to be an INTERNATIONAL Children's Rights Activist fuck anyone who thinks because you were born in this country somehow that makes you bleed some other color then the rest of the world.

You wanna free Africa, I stare at yuh
Cuz we ain't got it too good in America
I can't fuck with them overseas
My homeboy died over a key of cocaine
It was plain and simple
The 9mm went to the temple
was the sound I put the bitch down, etc.
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« Reply #16 on: April 28, 2007, 01:30:30 PM »
We all have our unique passions for causes.  That's OK.  It's probably good that we're not all passionate about the same thing ... or many good causes would be neglected.

IMHO.
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« Reply #17 on: April 28, 2007, 02:57:22 PM »
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We all have our unique passions for causes.

Hmm, yes.. & for some it seems that it's pointless arguing on a web forum.  :rofl:  :roll:  :P  8-)  :rofl:
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« Reply #18 on: April 28, 2007, 05:15:42 PM »
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Not enough cursing in these posts... more superfluous cuss words (like fuck) would make it easier to read, thanks.


LOL FUCK YOU PLEASE!
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Re: please takes more then that lame ass shit to offend me
« Reply #19 on: April 28, 2007, 05:19:50 PM »
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So yeah, fuck you people who care about Africans but not our own citizens, fuck you people who care more about animals than kids, and fuck you do-nothings who don't even care about anything at all.

 :x
What an ignorant, immature  perspective you have on the world. Thank god there are people in OTHER COUNTRIES helping us fight this fight here in this country and other countries since that's where all the rehabs seem to be moving. Or did you think we were doing this all on our own?

Get your head out of your ass. What the fuck does it have to do with being citizens? Do you know how many emails and letters i've gotten from people outside of our country that actually want to help this cause? God damn i would be ashamed for them to read some elitist bullshit like that.  FUCK YOU PEOPLE who aren't humanitarians, who only want to save the abused kids in AMERICA. I can see the comparison to animals maybe, but  children are children and I'll be damned if someone is going to judge me for wanting to help out globally. FUCK YOU!

Take a step back and realize this is a global problem and certainly spouting off your kind of bull shit is really going to HELP the children.  Give me a fucking break.  They are moving rehabs out of our country to places like FIJI, we can't do shit without the assistance of other countries now. But really if i take YOUR view why should we  once it's off US soil. OR what if half the kids in the school were sent from england, should we ONLY FOCUS on saving the AMERICANS? Are you smoking crack?  Grow the fuck up and welcome to the real world. It's a sick place, whine about PETA all you want, what a  fucking waste of energy.

So yeah FUCK ME for giving a FUCK! HELL YEAH! I'm proud to be an INTERNATIONAL Children's Rights Activist fuck anyone who thinks because you were born in this country somehow that makes you bleed some other color then the rest of the world.
You wanna free Africa, I stare at yuh
Cuz we ain't got it too good in America
I can't fuck with them overseas
My homeboy died over a key of cocaine
It was plain and simple
The 9mm went to the temple
was the sound I put the bitch down, etc.


We got it a hell of a lot better them most. People whine about not likin their jobs or not likin their home. cry cry fuckin cry, at least ya got a family, fa house a place to live. and its not about helpin africans my only point was (i has a psychotic episode yesterday you'll have to excuse me, whiners sometimes do that to me so i myself become what I hate the most) i'm about stopping the problem globally not w/ in our borders. Sure you have to Start somewhere but a lot of the kids here are now being shipped somewhere else. They still need a voice.
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« Reply #20 on: April 28, 2007, 05:20:50 PM »
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We all have our unique passions for causes.  That's OK.  It's probably good that we're not all passionate about the same thing ... or many good causes would be neglected.

IMHO.


you speak the truth my friend!
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« Reply #21 on: April 28, 2007, 05:22:43 PM »
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We all have our unique passions for causes.
Hmm, yes.. & for some it seems that it's pointless arguing on a web forum.  :rofl:  :roll:  :P  8-)  :rofl:


of course it was pointless look who i was arguing with, hence the extra drama added for the entertainment of others. and you sir/ma'am can bite ME ASS! Lemme know how it tastes. :rofl:  :roll:  :P  8-)  :rofl:
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« Reply #22 on: April 28, 2007, 05:25:03 PM »
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of course it was pointless look who i was arguing with, hence the extra drama added for the entertainment of others.

Perhaps you should re-evaluate your definition of entertainment.
 :lol:
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« Reply #23 on: April 28, 2007, 07:44:39 PM »
Niles,
I hear your frustration.... but,
The world is going to hell. There are so many important issues.

Radical Weather Change (Global Warming)-desertification broadening
Dying Oceans and lakes, rivers, streams too polluted to swim in
Tap water that's too polluted to drink, laced with all kinds of toxins and rx's
Extinction of many species
Food supply getting less safe
Air quality deminishing- pollution and deforestation
Weird fucking manmade viruses
Honey bees are dying. When they're gone, we're gone
People working their asses off to have basic necessities and no time for ANY activism
And dozens more that I'm not thinking of right now

All of these things stem from a greedy way of life that doesn't look past today, that poorly manages and squanders resources (more than the uneducated can imagine), that inflicts third world nations with violence to obtain control of their resources, that puts profit before people (life), etc. etc. Does anyone else every wonder what the f'in mad scientists at Monsanto etal are thinking??? They certainly can't be thinking about their grandkids, or their grankids, grandkids?

Very few are 'honoring thy mother'. The tits about to go dry.

I invest a lot of time on this issue, but there are many others that are important to me, some, more important. Programs will be irrelevant if/when our environment becomes so devastated that it won't support human/animal life. I disagree that we humans are more important or relevant than the animal kingdom, or the plant kingdom. You may not realise how important they are until they're gone. Without them, we 'sentient' beings won't be around. We are killing the very source of our sustenance. How 'sentient' are we? And if you think we are the only intellegent life or that animals don't have feelings, you haven't hung out with them enough. They are stripped of their inherent natures and live in 'programs' their entire, short lived lives. Sorry bout the rant on animals, but I'd actually like to see more done for their protection. Factory farming was never a good idea. Disrespect is disrespect, whether toward human or animal.

I understand why people support aid to other countries. There's a sense of guilt about what our leaders have done to create such dire situations in those countries.

In the big picture, middle-class folk sending their kids to bm warehouses for a couple of years is but a tiny speck on their radar, if at all. Some parents will continue to send their kids away, as long as there are places to send them. This ain't a new concept. And if/when any federal regulation comes about, programs will find loopholes or weasle their way into the creation of legislation. The best we can hope on that front is that factual data will become available which will undoubtedly show the inefficacy of programs.

The very best activism right now, imo, is to disect every program and expose it for what it is. Pick one, any program. Post what is advertised on their website and then show any proof of inaccuracies re: staff credentials, licensing, incongruencies in policies, links to survivors stories, etc.  That is what parents need in order to make informed choices. Put it in a nice comprehensive packet with links. Do the research for them, make it easy to find the truth.
Get it to the media if possible.

The industry could die if/when enough parents see what's really going on inside, and it ain't gonna come from their kids during 10 minute phone calls once a week (if lucky) that are monitored.

I really do understand your frustration, and we all need a good vent every now and then.
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« Reply #24 on: April 28, 2007, 08:50:55 PM »
Man, I wish I could write like Deborah!  That's it, in one big heartfelt nutshell!  Let's all redirect our talons and fangs to a more appropriate venue, eh?
 ::poke::    ::peace::      :)
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« Reply #25 on: April 28, 2007, 10:38:27 PM »
Deb, our concepts of humanity, humanism, being kind, being civil.. HUMANE treatment... those are concepts we made. I didn't say we were the only sentient beings, we are the only known SAPIENT beings.

These concepts are not naturalistic, they are human. Humanely killing an animal (say at a farm) is not how, say, a predator or group of predators would do it. Seen lionesses eat animals alive they pin down? Seen Grizzlies peel the skin off animals still struggling while eating? Do they care about killing it first? Only if they have to. Otherwise, its wasted effort and evolutionarily speaking foolish.

Our concepts of being kind, being good, doing the right thing... these are not universal or natural. Those too are human-derived... we came up with them.

Unless you believe in a deity, but I digress, that is outside the scope of this.

I am not saying we shouldn't care about other nations - I AM saying we should not get tunnel vision and forget what is at our feet. I am not saying animals do not matter and we should not treat them humanely - I am saying that we shouldn't forget about our own kids being farmed!

Personally, to me the environment is a resource to be managed for our own sake... unless of course we should return to the reducing atmosphere pre-oxygen-catastrophe when Cyanobacteria evolved and left that nice rust coating in bedrock a few billions years ago  :rofl: but of course along those lines that means keeping it healthy.

Same for animals. Domesticated animals are pretty fucking successful, aren't they? Chickens are doing better than before domestication, same for dogs... same for cats, same for pigs. Am I saying they should be kept in squalid conditions, abused, or mistreated? No.

I am saying that if the same effort that "PETA" puts into bitching about KFC and fur-farms went into bitching about DFAF and 'duck'-farms (er, quacks...) we wouldn't be here having this discussion! I'm sick and tired of blinded-by-their-ideology people caring about "their issue" or their "pop-issues" and losing sight of the bigger picture. Everyone bitching about conditions overseas need to get to NEW ORLEANS... its been over a YEAR now and its still a hell hole! People who want to help education elsewhere should look at our own education system.

Remember when Bill hicks said if we spent our defense budget on feeding and clothing the world, and educating them, it would pay for itself many times over... and we wouldn't even have to spend the entire budget to do it? I'd be fine with that. But, alas, everyone's too stupid to think along those lines... Ugh.

Either way, the amount of awareness and effort into stopping parent/state sponsored brainwashing and torture is way, way, WAY too low and there's no excuse for people with loaded language who care about a small niche of the big picture of the hell we are going to in a fucking hand basket ignoring it.

Apathy takes many forms. Feel-good-about-it activism is the same thing, to me, except hypocritical.

And don't get me started on Oprah's shenanigans with her 'school' in africa we've all found out about. GOD.
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« Reply #26 on: April 28, 2007, 10:51:58 PM »
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Deb, our concepts of humanity, humanism, being kind, being civil.. HUMANE treatment... those are concepts we made. I didn't say we were the only sentient beings, we are the only known SAPIENT beings.

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Animals are out living their darwinistic birth>reproduce>death cycle generation by generation, and frankly, as the only sentient, sapient beings on earth (as far as we know anyway) we do matter a little more.
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« Reply #27 on: April 28, 2007, 10:53:00 PM »
We're not the only sentient beings, but we are the only sapient beings.

What's so hard to understand?
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« Reply #28 on: April 28, 2007, 10:53:39 PM »
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Quote from: ""Nihilanthic""
Deb, our concepts of humanity, humanism, being kind, being civil.. HUMANE treatment... those are concepts we made. I didn't say we were the only sentient beings, we are the only known SAPIENT beings.

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Animals are out living their darwinistic birth>reproduce>death cycle generation by generation, and frankly, as the only sentient, sapient beings on earth (as far as we know anyway) we do matter a little more.

Bit of a stickler there, eh?
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« Reply #29 on: April 28, 2007, 10:53:41 PM »
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Deb, our concepts of humanity, humanism, being kind, being civil.. HUMANE treatment... those are concepts we made. I didn't say we were the only sentient beings, we are the only known SAPIENT beings.

Quote from: ""Niles""
Animals are out living their darwinistic birth>reproduce>death cycle generation by generation, and frankly, as the only sentient, sapient beings on earth (as far as we know anyway) we do matter a little more.


Uh, what?
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