ASR's Violations of Massachusetts Education Law

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Looks like it was no problem for Chamberlain.  Top notch Special Ed program with licensed teachers and individual IEP's, OCS license, EEC license.  Can't really find anything wrong with it (except maybe NATSAP "seal of approval" which is a red flag).

Seems like the kids are getting the best possible care from competent, qualified, licensed staff.  ASR can't claim any of that.

[RobertBruce]

But DJ Chamberlin cant claim the kids have white water rafting!

Don't you think thats the most important thing for any program???

[TheWho]

But DJ Chamberlin cant claim the kids have white water rafting!

Don't you think thats the most important thing for any program???

....and cross country skiing, lets stay with the facts!

[RobertBruce]

Right so which is more important, skiing and rafting or safety and licensed teachers?

[TheWho]

Right so which is more important, skiing and rafting or safety and licensed teachers?

Very good Question:
1.    If you had a child that was suffering with social issues and may benefit from being with other kids then a choice of white water rafting or cross-country skiing (depending on the season) would probably be more important.  The academics would be secondary.


2.   If you had a child that would benefit mostly from a safe environment then this would be most important for that child with the academics and social activities further down on the list.


3.   If a child had no issues that required therapy and was a self starter then I would recommend a regular private boarding school and ASR probably wouldn’t be a good fit for him/her.

So I think it is fair to say each case is different depending on the child, there is no correct answer that applies to everyone.

[RobertBruce]

Wow Cindy. Again you suprise me, you really are starting to grow up. I hope youll continue to make an effort to stop being such a little bitch and just have a legitimate conversation.

In all seriousness Cindy I really appreciate it.

In keeping with that tone:

Very good Question:
1. If you had a child that was suffering with social issues and may benefit from being with other kids then a choice of white water rafting or cross-country skiing (depending on the season) would probably be more important. The academics would be secondary.

For a situation like this arent there much less extreme and more viable options other than shipping the child off to a place like ASR?

[TheWho]

Wow Cindy. Again you suprise me, you really are starting to grow up. I hope youll continue to make an effort to stop being such a little bitch and just have a legitimate conversation.

In all seriousness Cindy I really appreciate it.

In keeping with that tone:

Very good Question:
1. If you had a child that was suffering with social issues and may benefit from being with other kids then a choice of white water rafting or cross-country skiing (depending on the season) would probably be more important. The academics would be secondary.

For a situation like this arent there much less extreme and more viable options other than shipping the child off to a place like ASR?

On the surface it may seem so, but many of these kids have tried or as a minimum been exposed to less extreme options and they failed to work.  Something as simple or benign as a “structured environment” works well for many of these children to get turned around and set back on their path.

As an aside:
You could stand a little maturing on how you pose a question, Devon.

[RobertBruce]

On the surface it may seem so, but many of these kids have tried or as a minimum been exposed to less extreme options and they failed to work. Something as simple or benign as a “structured environment” works well for many of these children to get turned around and set back on their path.

But there are several "structured enviornments" where a child can learn to develop himself socially without being in such a controlling enviornment. In fact I would go so far as to say such a child would be worse off for having attended such a program. Youre asking him to develop socially within a network where virtually all of the kids are purported to have some sort of behavioral or emotional problem. He's also being made to work on issues he doesnt have.
Wouldnt something like an after school club that caters to his interest or a church group be a better option for such a kid.

As for maturity levels, so long as you can maintain conducting yourself like an adult and not play games I promise I'll be sweet as a biscuit.

[TheWho]

Your average child I would tend to agree with you.  Social structure is considered phase 1 in any growth or intervention.  School sponsored clubs and church groups are excellent activities to expose kids to peer social development and most of the children do fine and thrive within this lightly structured environment.  A very small minority of children fail to respond in this environment and need something more structured where they can benefit from a therapeutic atmosphere, structured routine to get them back on track.

[RobertBruce]

What kind of problems would that kid be dealing with?

[TheWho]

What kind of problems would that kid be dealing with?

I cant comment on specific problems, I wouldnt know.  The childs therapist typically makes the call on whether it would be a benificial enviornment for him or her.

[RobertBruce]

A very small minority of children fail to respond in this environment and need something more structured where they can benefit from a therapeutic atmosphere, structured routine to get them back on track.

I'm looking to know what would qualify a kid to be considered part of this small minority.

[TheWho]

A very small minority of children fail to respond in this environment and need something more structured where they can benefit from a therapeutic atmosphere, structured routine to get them back on track.

I'm looking to know what would qualify a kid to be considered part of this small minority.

I leave the specifics to the pros, I dont have a background in this area.

[Anonymous]

Well, THE WHO, maybe you can just throw out an example or two. What was the problem with your daughter? Why did you choose to lock your own daughterl up for about a year of her life?

[Deborah]

A very small minority of children fail to respond in this environment and need something more structured where they can benefit from a therapeutic atmosphere, structured routine to get them back on track.

I'm looking to know what would qualify a kid to be considered part of this small minority.

If you want to know something, asking Who is the wrong thing to do.

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