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« Reply #675 on: November 26, 2005, 08:23:00 PM »
So what about them rats as big as cats in the heavenly hey loft? or did you go to school there?
We had coraspondence no books but when they built the new school they got books.
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« Reply #676 on: November 26, 2005, 08:28:00 PM »
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"Ha Ha. Very close, but not quite right. I was in the original ensemble so you nearly had me pegged. Once I got good and brainwashed, I started to write songs. I sang one for Bro. Roloff and he decided to form an ensemble to travel with him. I never meant for things to turn out the way they did...I was just a confused kid. Part of me feels very 'used' as he made tons of money of the ensemble and I WAS a Roloff robot. I had no mind of my own. It embarrases me to think of the things I said in front of all those congregations in support of Roloff. But he treated me WAY better than my parents did, and that was all I knew.



I suspected from the posts there were two different people who jumped. That is SO aweful. I didn't know Diana. I remember Brenda well. She is the one who passed out in the plane over the Rockies. I hope she is doing well now. She was a really sweeet girl.



Geez! The girls home experience was so confusing. In the end though, while I remember some good things, I cannot condone Roloff's attitude that he knew what was right for everyone else. Pushing his values on me really screwed up my head for a long time, and it caused me to marry someone who continued to give me the message love had to be earned 'cause I was a worthless worm.



I expect I would have ended up OD'ing on drugs or something if I hadn't gotten some sort of help as I was so miserable when I got there. But as horrible as it sounds, I'm not sure surviving was worth going through the girls home experience. But you can't change the past. The only thing I can do, now that I know his ministries are still operating, is work toward educating people about the truth of what goes on there.



Maybe my attitude will change soon as I'm going through a lot of pain (and financial trouble) around the divorce right now. The asshole bullied me into leaving with very little of what I worked very hard for. In the end, though, it is all forcing me to find out who I am, and I don't feel like a worm that needs to EARN love any more, and I finally don't feel guilty for who I am, or feel I need to prove myself.



So life is just life. Everyone has bad things happen, some more than others. The important thing seems to be to learn and grow from our experiences. And I'm finding there are a few really good people around now that I know how to recognize them."
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« Reply #677 on: November 26, 2005, 08:42:00 PM »
Brenda Rittenberry or Brenda Rutledge? Are you in contact with one of them. I would love to talk to Brenda Rittenberry with the cans on her head he he. Are you Gwen then? Wrote that song now I can walk in newness of life don't have to live as before? Know which song I am talking about?
What songs did you sing or write on his first albums? A- will Know she was there when there where 20 girls and also sang on the albums. Did you always ride with roloff or did you ride with his bro. in law too? Elise went with him a lot to.
Base or tenner which one did you sing?
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« Reply #678 on: November 26, 2005, 09:49:00 PM »
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On 2005-11-26 14:00:00, Anonymous wrote:

"Ha Ha. Very close, but not quite right. I was in the original ensemble so you nearly had me pegged. Once I got good and brainwashed, I started to write songs. I sang one for Bro. Roloff and he decided to form an ensemble to travel with him. I never meant for things to turn out the way they did...I was just a confused kid. Part of me feels very 'used' as he made tons of money of the ensemble and I WAS a Roloff robot. I had no mind of my own. It embarrases me to think of the things I said in front of all those congregations in support of Roloff. But he treated me WAY better than my parents did, and that was all I knew.



I suspected from the posts there were two different people who jumped. That is SO aweful. I didn't know Diana. I remember Brenda well. She is the one who passed out in the plane over the Rockies. I hope she is doing well now. She was a really sweeet girl.



Geez! The girls home experience was so confusing. In the end though, while I remember some good things, I cannot condone Roloff's attitude that he knew what was right for everyone else. Pushing his values on me really screwed up my head for a long time, and it caused me to marry someone who continued to give me the message love had to be earned 'cause I was a worthless worm.



I expect I would have ended up OD'ing on drugs or something if I hadn't gotten some sort of help as I was so miserable when I got there. But as horrible as it sounds, I'm not sure surviving was worth going through the girls home experience. But you can't change the past. The only thing I can do, now that I know his ministries are still operating, is work toward educating people about the truth of what goes on there.



Maybe my attitude will change soon as I'm going through a lot of pain (and financial trouble) around the divorce right now. The asshole bullied me into leaving with very little of what I worked very hard for. In the end, though, it is all forcing me to find out who I am, and I don't feel like a worm that needs to EARN love any more, and I finally don't feel guilty for who I am, or feel I need to prove myself.



So life is just life. Everyone has bad things happen, some more than others. The important thing seems to be to learn and grow from our experiences. And I'm finding there are a few really good people around now that I know how to recognize them."


I had no where to go either and it was a better place than the street. Or juvy. Juvy was bad. I also left the home very angry. In fact my whole world was blown apart because before I left I found out things that they had lied about, And being the loyal robot that I was it really hurt.
My roommate lived with the Roloff's for about a year I guess. She got very spoiled by them. At least by  Ms. Roloff mostly. So I found out everything I didn't want to know. Also Visited granny and papa  at their home home and found out even more I did not want to knew. They where human. And did not totally believe as he did. It was a job I was told. I had my ups and downs in the home still can not walk in a church, And for a long time I was very upset about the fact so much was forced on us regarding the bible. Up until this last year in fact. I felt very betrayed by them. I also became an abused wife and got the shit beat out of me. Went to PaPa and granny for help in fact. Stole his car and drove all the way there for help. Was pretty much worked over when I got there. I thought for sure they would help me. But they did not they turned me away. I felt very betrayed because they lead me to believe they where there to help.
Let me tell you my husband beat me while I was pregnant with my only child. Said he would kill her and he did she died on delvery. 9 months.
When I told Granny what he had done she told me I was being punished by God. I blamed my self for her death for a long time tried suicide everything couldn't get past it. But being the worm I thought I was thought I deserved it. I was not  a good wife. I was 17 when I lost my child and barley out of the home. I had 2 black eyes 2 busted ear drums teeth knocked out busted mouth no hair on my head where it had been jerked out from being drug all over the house. I had soars on mu back huge soars on both elbows and knees, Not to mention all the beatings I took when they turned me away and I had to take his car back which I blew up on the way home. I will come on here and say what I never would before most people knew anyway. But at 21 I killed my husband. It was self defence the grand jury decided. But was a accident. Never meant to do it never planned it- It just happen. He had a stab wound 1 quarter inch hit a main artery and he died before my eyes. One way or the other 3 stitches would have been required and he was chocking me to death when it happen. And on LSD. My life has been a total hell. A Nightmare. How could of this happen? Did I blame the home and the fact they would not help? Oh yes I hated them. I do understand why you are angry probably more than most. And it is OK to be mad I certainly will not wrong you. Nor judge you. I talk to Granny as recent as 2 days ago. And I just had to let it go. I have enough to live with as it is and it just made the weight in side heaver. I had to forgive. Forgot no? Forgive yes I had to make peace with it, But I had to do it in my own time and you will to. It just takes time and a lot of venting. I take my days one at a time now and one foot in front of the other. What happen was wrong bad wrong and yes it effected my life my views, It changed everything about me to the point of not being me anymore. One thing that I have learned from all this is, My heart and soul belong to me and only me and I have taken them back, I will never let the home control or consume me again. Since they never taught me that it was something I had to retrieve on my own. I really after hearing the other girls stories felt bad because they got hurt so much worse and thought my self fortunate that My time there was better. Hearing their stories made me thankful that it any worse that what it was, so here I am? So come on you guys bring on the posts about what I did. It is expected.
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« Reply #679 on: November 26, 2005, 10:42:00 PM »
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On 2005-11-26 14:00:00, Anonymous wrote:

"Ha Ha. Very close, but not quite right. I was in the original ensemble so you nearly had me pegged. Once I got good and brainwashed, I started to write songs. I sang one for Bro. Roloff and he decided to form an ensemble to travel with him. I never meant for things to turn out the way they did...I was just a confused kid. Part of me feels very 'used' as he made tons of money of the ensemble and I WAS a Roloff robot. I had no mind of my own. It embarrases me to think of the things I said in front of all those congregations in support of Roloff. But he treated me WAY better than my parents did, and that was all I knew.



I suspected from the posts there were two different people who jumped. That is SO aweful. I didn't know Diana. I remember Brenda well. She is the one who passed out in the plane over the Rockies. I hope she is doing well now. She was a really sweeet girl.



Geez! The girls home experience was so confusing. In the end though, while I remember some good things, I cannot condone Roloff's attitude that he knew what was right for everyone else. Pushing his values on me really screwed up my head for a long time, and it caused me to marry someone who continued to give me the message love had to be earned 'cause I was a worthless worm.



I expect I would have ended up OD'ing on drugs or something if I hadn't gotten some sort of help as I was so miserable when I got there. But as horrible as it sounds, I'm not sure surviving was worth going through the girls home experience. But you can't change the past. The only thing I can do, now that I know his ministries are still operating, is work toward educating people about the truth of what goes on there.



Maybe my attitude will change soon as I'm going through a lot of pain (and financial trouble) around the divorce right now. The asshole bullied me into leaving with very little of what I worked very hard for. In the end, though, it is all forcing me to find out who I am, and I don't feel like a worm that needs to EARN love any more, and I finally don't feel guilty for who I am, or feel I need to prove myself.



So life is just life. Everyone has bad things happen, some more than others. The important thing seems to be to learn and grow from our experiences. And I'm finding there are a few really good people around now that I know how to recognize them."


So where do you think he buried all that money?
most likely in the workers coffee cans underneath his house he he
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« Reply #680 on: November 26, 2005, 11:59:00 PM »
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"Brenda Rittenberry or Brenda Rutledge? Are you in contact with one of them. I would love to talk to Brenda Rittenberry with the cans on her head he he. Are you Gwen then? Wrote that song now I can walk in newness of life don't have to live as before? Know which song I am talking about?

What songs did you sing or write on his first albums? A- will Know she was there when there where 20 girls and also sang on the albums. Did you always ride with roloff or did you ride with his bro. in law too? Elise went with him a lot to.

Base or tenner which one did you sing?"


I know you are not diane burton. You must be guwen if so I still know at least 1 of your songs that carried me through a hard time in my life, dark hair black glasses
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« Reply #681 on: November 27, 2005, 12:43:00 AM »
If you where Elsie then You where one of roloffs favorite and pretend to have seizures to make us laugh. You know Granny runs a home for abused women now?
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« Reply #682 on: November 27, 2005, 01:04:00 AM »
This is ?divorced?

Oh oh. Pictures. Guess I?m BUSTED. (he he). I?m not MK, or Elise or Gwen. I?m LH. (or was then) I wrote ?I?ll Never be the same? which was on an early album. A couple more too. I guess ?Oh, Praise Him? was the most popular. The ONLY call I ever got from my parents was to tell me my brother had died in a motorcycle accident and that song just came to me the next morning. Took 5 minutes to write. We all sang at a local church the next day. I sang that song and the congregation took up an offering so I could fly to the funeral in California. It?s on the early album too. The Weatherford?s daughter sang with the quartet a little just before I left. Elise sounds familiar, but 35 years is a long time to remember names you havn?t thought of.

I honestly don?t remember Brenda?s last name any more, but Rittenberry sounds right.. She was short and cute with thick curly dark hair. She left before I did and married a preacher who beat her. After I left I felt unwelcome so I did not stay in contact with the home.

Please explain how I can contact superchicken. I would love to be able to speak more privately. There seems to be a LOT to talk about. When I arrived at the farm there were about 15 girls in trailers. Mostly unwed mothers. The home was pretty new. At the time I was in the ensemble different people sang, but I almost always got to go along. Diane Burton, Brenda, Gwen, Linda and Glinda were regulars besides me. Since the plane held 6, usually 5 of us traveled. We were called the Honeybee quartet even thought there were usually 5 of us?sometimes 6.

Roloff was a woman hater because he belittled women?s abilities and thought the only thing women was good for was to be wives and mothers. We had no school when I was there, and he said all women needed was to be able to read a recipe book and grocery shop. We were only allowed to read the KJV bible and his books. That is IT. He just would say bad things about women in a mean way. And OH! He hated Bella Abzug, who I met years later and really liked. I just remember feeling very inferior to any men. My childhood didn?t help either though. Someone said that thing about how he said Eve ruined Adam. It is true. I heard him preach that too. And he preached women were to be obedient followers of men no matter how the man acted. It was the woman?s place to ?make? the marriage work and if it didn?t she was not being obedient enough. I?m pretty much a feminist now. And I DO understand about church. I find it very difficult to attend.

I?m SO sorry to hear about your childhood. Yes, juvy was bad but I only spent a couple weeks there. I was actually in a state home for foster kids who were not adoptable, then ran away and turned myself in so I could go to juvy and get a court date. An aunt took me thinking she would get me saved but she didn?t have a clue how troubled I was. My s-dad was a cruel pervert. I was convinced he would kill me before I turned 18. My mom blamed me for being born and ruining her life ?casue she divorced my dad and hated him. Therapy has helped a lot.

What a tragic story about your marriage! I?m really glad you were not charged with his murder. My H hit and all, but I called the police on him so he was scared to hit me after that. Right now he is trying to ruin me financially out of spite. And I don?t know why. I always tried to make him happy. I even bought him an airplane! He is one of those guys who feels entitled and thought it was my job to ?make? him happy. I found out today he got a second mortgage on the house he kept in the divorce. It was a beautiful home, but he (we) owed $320,000 on it. He was supposed to refinance and get my name off the loan?instead he took out a second mortgage for $150,000 more and I found out ?cause I checked my credit report. I don?t know how he managed it without my knowledge, but his mommy works at a law firm that does real estate. Bitch. Anyway, if I have to file bankruptcy I?m getting my name off his debts. If he got his girlfriend to forge my name, well he can go to j-a-i-l.

Have to say though, hearing your story makes me realize it could have been worse. You have certainly come a long way, and I know it has been a lot of work.

As far as all the money, Roloff spent freely enough, but I don?t think he stole tons of money. He was more concerned with fame than fortune. He did trade the Piper Aztec for a Beech Queen air, that was and easy $100,000 there. He always wore a white cowboy hat that cost a couple hundred dollars then. He had several. He bought whatever he wanted and spent freely, I just didn?t see any evidence he was stashing a bunch of money away. The homes weren?t cheap and he was busy building an empire, so I think that is where the bulk of the money went. I was with him when he got audited once, and he was cleared of embezzlement. Then again, who knows? I was pretty clueless at the time.
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« Reply #683 on: November 27, 2005, 03:34:00 AM »
You know if I am wrong I will say so in this case I am because like as time passes we do forget and I had forgotten all those sermons but now reminded do remember them clearly. Maybe I should re-read my notes. Do you still have your bible? I remember one note I wrote that he hated Ann Landers thought she was of the devil commy. If you did not know her she was an advise columnist like dear Abby. When I read what you wrote it hit me like a ton of bricks. Besides my shitty childhood no wonder I felt everything was my fault and I was not doing enough to keep my marriage togather. He use to say that to me alot last hubby obey me bitch. Sure did.I have the original honeybees quartet pictures. I was wondering if that was you to in there but I could not remember your name. I am sorry about your marriage. Maybe they should have taught us to hate men and not ourselves.
There are still alot of his teachings that stick in my craw like a stone I tell you.
I still have so many mixed feelings about him. I was young and 13 I guess all kids go insane at 13. However I take the 5th. Sorry to hear about your brother. I never had any kids but raised my nephew and he went off an overpass we thought was 135 miles per hour turned out to be 189. Blew an oil plug and flew 30 feet out 50 feet drop. Long ways and he broke a lot of bones but he walks and it happen last Febuary. He is really 1 of 3 children I ever loved with all my soul but we have always been close. He is 21. No drinking or drugs just stupid is a good word.
Oh I always joke about what he did with all that money. They charge now 6,000 a year plus ins. plus spending money name it!
If you miss a payment they stick your kid on a bus. Weird how things change. Now it is required.
Any way we are at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/roloffalumni/
If you do not want to talk in there. I have a private chat or chatzy which no one knows you in there. Or http://groups.yahoo.com/group/thatreallysucks/
there are 3 of us close to your time.
In both groups there are people who share your experience and are good friends and people. Super chicken is there. People like hearing your stories and points of view on here. I have always like to write to- my whole life it seems. I can write something as the mood stikes me and am not shy with my words. I can understand why you felt you where used. But to be on the records can I have your autograph? Kidding? It takes having a special talent to be able to do that. Anyway nice talking hope to talk again. :nworthy:   :smile:
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« Reply #684 on: November 27, 2005, 09:57:00 AM »
http://www.chatzy.com/430584073319

So if you do not want to post in group or want to get to know each
other where you can chat live. Just go in chatzy

pass code( friends) You do not have to use a real name,
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« Reply #685 on: November 27, 2005, 03:19:00 PM »
So do you ever stay in touch with the people that you stayed with while on tour? Where did you go when you got out? Did you ever get any of the old albums you made? Are they still playing them do you know? How long have you been married this time? I know I am nosey he he
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« Reply #686 on: November 27, 2005, 04:42:00 PM »
That is OK. (About being ?nosy?). Actually, when I turned 18 I had no place to go and my mother had stolen several thousand dollars my father, who died when I was 9, left for me. So I worked in the offices for about 9 months. I was actually Elaine?s roommate (yes, the mean redheaded one). We didn?t get along great, but we sort-of ignored each other.

Since I was living at the offices then, in Corpus Christi, they allowed me to get a book called ?How to pass the GED?. So I studied it, took and passed the test. They also took me to get a social security card. Then they sent me to make a life on my own?so I moved to the southeast since my family was in California. (I wanted to be as far away as possible). That is were I met my husband. I?ve only been married once. We married when I was 25. We divorced just before my 53rd birthday.

As I said, Granny didn?t care for me much. She was pretty mean and picked on me a lot. I think it was partly because I got too much attention. Once Mrs. Roloff gave everybody IQ tests when there were about 110 of us (we lived in the dorms then) and mine was the highest. Everybody made a big deal out of that?but IQ tests only test a very narrow range of a person?s abilities. Plus I may have just had a good day. Anyway, granny got ?weird? about it. When I left I was told all this lovey dovey shit that I was cared about, etc. But when I called with problems related to trouble making it alone in the world they did not want to hear it. They just said it was my fault.

Believe me, I?m pissed that Roloff refused to let anyone take me into their homes and just sent me out on my own instead. There were several families who really wanted to take me in. How the hell did he think I was going to survive? What gave him the right to make that decision for me? I was abandoned by my parents so this was another deep abandonment. And I always tried so hard to be acceptable?it was a blow to my self-esteem I?m still not completely over. It happened again recently with my husband. The message I continue to fight, is that it does not matter what I do or how hard I try. I just am an unlovable person and if someone takes an interest in me they see something they want. When they are done, they will kick me to the curb.

I?m the type of person who, once I decide it is over, does not look back. It was clear I would find no help, advice or concern from any of them. In fact Granny told me to my face, in front of some other girls, I was too screwed up to make it on my own anywhere, and she did not care. I?ve always suspected that when I left they just wrote me off and the songs were silenced. The fact that you cannot place me reinforces that suspicion. Still, my name is on the first album that was recorded.

What do you know about Diane Burton? How did you know it was not me as we usually traveled together most of the time?

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« Reply #687 on: November 27, 2005, 05:11:00 PM »
'divorced'..... oh me oh my.... 'divorced' my dear sure wish you where near me i so must give you a major hug.... and a longgggg talk.....lololol get with 'superchicken' i am the one she referred to as A... yes dear yes dear no need to lie ... our life after leaving the home was hard... and a lot of the hardness we did ourselves but .... but... not all ... not all... and for us there seemed no place to turn.... oh my dear one... my dear sister... how i desire to see and speak face to face with you....and in so doing prehaps we can strenghthen each other.... join us in the other group.... some there no my name... while most dont....but oh how i could sit with you face to face and share with you what great strenghth you truly truly have... for we stumble thru the years alone often abused with only god to hear us and only god to collect our tears....... oh how you need a hug....  ::trophy:: of your journey.... you made it thru dear... and that is a feat in itself..... god love you...
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« Reply #688 on: November 27, 2005, 07:52:00 PM »
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"That is OK. (About being ?nosy?). Actually, when I turned 18 I had no place to go and my mother had stolen several thousand dollars my father, who died when I was 9, left for me. So I worked in the offices for about 9 months. I was actually Elaine?s roommate (yes, the mean redheaded one). We didn?t get along great, but we sort-of ignored each other.



Since I was living at the offices then, in Corpus Christi, they allowed me to get a book called ?How to pass the GED?. So I studied it, took and passed the test. They also took me to get a social security card. Then they sent me to make a life on my own?so I moved to the southeast since my family was in California. (I wanted to be as far away as possible). That is were I met my husband. I?ve only been married once. We married when I was 25. We divorced just before my 53rd birthday.



As I said, Granny didn?t care for me much. She was pretty mean and picked on me a lot. I think it was partly because I got too much attention. Once Mrs. Roloff gave everybody IQ tests when there were about 110 of us (we lived in the dorms then) and mine was the highest. Everybody made a big deal out of that?but IQ tests only test a very narrow range of a person?s abilities. Plus I may have just had a good day. Anyway, granny got ?weird? about it. When I left I was told all this lovey dovey shit that I was cared about, etc. But when I called with problems related to trouble making it alone in the world they did not want to hear it. They just said it was my fault.



Believe me, I?m pissed that Roloff refused to let anyone take me into their homes and just sent me out on my own instead. There were several families who really wanted to take me in. How the hell did he think I was going to survive? What gave him the right to make that decision for me? I was abandoned by my parents so this was another deep abandonment. And I always tried so hard to be acceptable?it was a blow to my self-esteem I?m still not completely over. It happened again recently with my husband. The message I continue to fight, is that it does not matter what I do or how hard I try. I just am an unlovable person and if someone takes an interest in me they see something they want. When they are done, they will kick me to the curb.



I?m the type of person who, once I decide it is over, does not look back. It was clear I would find no help, advice or concern from any of them. In fact Granny told me to my face, in front of some other girls, I was too screwed up to make it on my own anywhere, and she did not care. I?ve always suspected that when I left they just wrote me off and the songs were silenced. The fact that you cannot place me reinforces that suspicion. Still, my name is on the first album that was recorded.



What do you know about Diane Burton? How did you know it was not me as we usually traveled together most of the time?



?divorced?"



Hey it is nosey again. Snort snort..He he
Did you look at the group page or pictures? When I came in there was 60 girls. I was 13 and Pa Pa had took me under his wing. Sometimes I think he whipped me harder because of that. But he gave me a lot of freedoms to roam the property. And me being nosy in all nosed into what the old girls did all the time. I really looked up to them. I never had any sisters or really any friends so I aimed to please and listened to everything they said. I loved the Quartet! I so wanted to be like them. I never could carry a tune in a bucket, and the only reason why granny put me in choir was because I would not quit making funny's. So she had to set me where she could see me. Where you Elane's Roommate in the dorm or office? You knew the office burned down didn't you? I did not like Elane I'll spare the name calling. How you survived it I never know. At the dorm she was right across from my room. Granny always put me by a workers room because I would sneak out of my room and get the girls all  stirred up. Wha ha ha Anyway I sure I have a picture of you and remember your name but won't say it out loud. If I remember you right?? Well just go look at the pictures. If that is your picture on my home page you have all rights to kick my ass. But I will take it off if you want.
I am sorry about your parents. I do understand. My mom co signed for me apt at 15 1/2. Ended up back in the home and after I got out went back to the streets. I know exactly what you mean when you tell me how granny made you feel. Pa Pa might have whipped me but told me he loved me Granny Not only slapped me more times than I can count! She also made me feel really bad about my self but she would say it in a sweet way. Hold on I will do it. he he "Now honey..... nobody loves a little ugly girl... Look at the way you dress your hair you look like a hippy... God doesn't love little girls like that and your mom sure would not want you ... But I love you and you just have to be better".... Sound familiar? :roll: I was also told I could never come back called a whore ect. And It hurt and hurt deep. Because for some twisted reason believed that she really loved me and maybe she did or didn't. Don no? :???: But did take it very hard especially after what I went though and saving me was at the tip of there fingers and they through it back in my face and I felt mocked me. Every time I got the shit beat out of me I thought of what was said to me. I got your same message. I am truly sorry for your pain. And I understand that every failure validated that for me. I am doing better thanks to having friends here. And they have made me feel worth something for the first time in my life.        I do not know what happen to the albums. I have forgotten most of the songs. Not A though. she remembers almost all of them but she sang on album 13 I think. You being there when there was 110 girls. I was most defiantly with you there.
Since you sang I probably followed you around you will maybe remember me. I loved Diane and had many talks with her and many prayers and the same with Brenda. Elise played the piano and got by with a lot I think. But liked her because she was funny and was daring. Don't read into anything about the songs being gone. I just can't remember. I do understand your feelings. And you are not alone in them. Everything you felt people made you feel and it is not in your head. Or you heart that trusted and was broken.
And you know what screw people! Especially since they do not know or understand That you are a good person and a strong one for surviving all on your own. Nobody needs a user. I think it is their loss. There are good people in here to be good friends and supportive. And in spite of everything you have made it on your own. That in it's self speaks volumes! You can start over and will because of who you are and what you have done with your life. And from reading- I do not think you will let anyone ever take that from you again.
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« Reply #689 on: November 27, 2005, 10:10:00 PM »
OMG!!!

The pic seems to show from left to right; Rene Weaterford, Diane Burton, Me and Brenda. Guess you got the proof. I put on some weight and cut my hair shorter later.

Wow. That is eerie.

I did not know the offices burned. Actually it was not to bad living with Elane at the office because by then I was a paid part of the office staff and on her level. We just pretty much ignored each other.

I remember Miss Ida. She was real nice. I heard Roloffs death destroyed her.
 
Being in the quartet was awesome. It was like living like a rock star sometimes. We had special priviliges and all. We would spend hours signing peoples Bibles. I'm still embarassed I was so brainwashed, but you can certainly see the appeal. When I got there, I was so beaten down it took something as extreme as being part of the quartet to bring me out of my shell. I'm glad for a lot of that. But I sometimes feel guilty for the special treatment.

I did not, however become a snitch and tell on other girls. That was something that got me into trouble 'cause I was NOT going to play that game.
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