MGDP: Spin off discussion, Unconditional Hate

[Anonymous]

If it is as bad as you claim, why do only a handful of program survivors post here out of the tens of thousands that should of also been abused?

Congratulations, you have opened a can of worms. There will be a slew of replies about how it takes a while for the brainwashing to wear off (which is true in a lot of cases) etc.

A lot of these programs really sucked and still suck. Hell if I know the answer to your question though.

[Deborah]

If it is as bad as you claim, why do only a handful of program survivors post here out of the tens of thousands that should of also been abused?

Handful? 5 survivors? Where did you get that idea?
Look around the internet. You'll find plenty of survivors on MySpace, Facebook, personal blogs, other forums.

[Anonymous]

Why don't they post here? Any opinions?

[Anonymous]

I'm going to go ahead and flaunt my own credentials here. I am a merchant of hate, an international distributor. I acquire it and distribute it. I am inspired to burning hate in situations where few other people would be, and I can jump in it like Scrooge McDuck does with money. However, hate cannot be bought or sold (although acts of hate can be paid for), only given freely. However it can be molded, shaped, given form. My supply has gone from "unimaginable" to "practically limitless". The only reason you don't see more of it is that while my hate is unlimited, my time is not.

To prevent certain things from happening, I have several restrictions on my own hate, the relevant one here being that under no circumstances can I direct it at children.

Coming here was a bonanza. Fornits is an oil field, a gold mine, the land of milk and honey for hate. The hate around here is palpable and juicy, with a rich taste, bitter yet tangy. It's hard to process, which is why lesser hate lords don't come here. Hating, say, Jack Thompson or George Bush is easy. Hating Randall Hinton requires a lot more research into things you don't want to know about.

What I still don't get is why this is generally so ill-understood. I mean Jesus Christ, people, you sent your kids to torture pits and then proceeded to tell them they just had a "bad experience", what the hell else were you expecting to happen? Of course they're going to hate you! And they probably don't hate you nearly as much as they should, because their brains aren't capable of it!

How much do you think I know about hate? I'll tell you all what hate really is.

Hate is spite. Hate is revenge. Hate is always unconditional, as there are no qualifications to hate somebody. You just have to hate him.

Hate is destruction's principal vehicle. It is possible for someone to destroy with no hatred, but usually that someone is already really dangerous. Therefore hate is the only way to put down the shit in this world.

Hate is when someone pulls a mean prank on you, you pretend to forgive him, you go over to his house for a few beers and pour potassium cyanide in his drink. Wife rape optional.

Hate is when your father asks you for computer help, and you remember that one time he started spanking you in front of your friends when you were ten years old, so you go over and stock it full of child porn with backdated filenames to make it look like he's been hoarding it for years, and then call the FBI.

Hate is when you lose your temp-agency job, so you discover the address to email everyone at the host company, and use it to let them know they're all going to lose their jobs (This works best when there's a nugget of truth to it).

Hate is when you rip a man out of the closet and expose him for all to see as the perverted fuckhead he is, for no other reason than his existence disturbs you.

Hate is when you intentionally get AIDS just because you want to spread it to as many people as you can before you kill yourself.

Hate is when someone tries to teach you a lesson, and you intentionally learn the opposite.

Hate is when you look someone in the eyes and smile as you squeeze the trigger to add a third hole between them.

Hate is when you constantly repost Miller Newton's phone number in hopes that people will call him and tell him what they think.

Hate is when a teacher makes fun of you in school, and you end up going into politics thirty years later and, when given the opportunity, viciously, intentionally slash the education budget.

Hate is when your parents send you to SCL, you wait until you've graduated college, and then you retaliate by breaking off all contact and never even letting them see their grandchildren.

Hate is when your daughter skips school a few times and you retaliate by paying thousands of dollars to send her to be "behavior modified".

Hate is when you open up a shitpit to torture children in simply because the idea of children growing up- the process of adolescence- inspires your hate.

There's an old saying: "You can fool the fans, but you can't fool the players", and I'm the fucking grandmaster of this game. I roll my eyes every time the word "therapy" is said on this board, or people start talking about "treatment", or whatever. It's bullshit- it's all bullshit. You don't lock someone up in a little cell called "The Hobbit" unless you hate him. You don't wrap a teenage girl in a straitjacket called a "burrito" unless you hate her, nor do you force her, under threat of hours-long painful restraint, to divulge everything about her sex life. It doesn't matter how long you went to school, or what for, or what your new educational theory is, or anything else. This isn't treatment. This is hate.

The bullshit also comes from our side, as well. Regulatory agencies are a weapon, nothing more. George Miller's House bill is simply a method of removing shit that has no place on this planet. Let's not pretend otherwise.

The really nasty thing about programmies is that the vast majority of them seriously do not know that what they feel is hate. Some of them even think it's love. This leads to the condition known as "sick fuckery", in which horrors are visited upon children "for their own good", which is what feels good to the sadist in question.

But it's still hate.

talk talk talk talk , ive never seen anyone blab so much about themselves before trying to build up a rough exterior.. on the internet of all places... lmfao.  :rofl: and look at these fools who believe your bs. priceless.

[Anonymous]

I'm going to go ahead and flaunt my own credentials here. I am a merchant of hate, an international distributor. I acquire it and distribute it. I am inspired to burning hate in situations where few other people would be, and I can jump in it like Scrooge McDuck does with money. However, hate cannot be bought or sold (although acts of hate can be paid for), only given freely. However it can be molded, shaped, given form. My supply has gone from "unimaginable" to "practically limitless". The only reason you don't see more of it is that while my hate is unlimited, my time is not.

To prevent certain things from happening, I have several restrictions on my own hate, the relevant one here being that under no circumstances can I direct it at children.

Coming here was a bonanza. Fornits is an oil field, a gold mine, the land of milk and honey for hate. The hate around here is palpable and juicy, with a rich taste, bitter yet tangy. It's hard to process, which is why lesser hate lords don't come here. Hating, say, Jack Thompson or George Bush is easy. Hating Randall Hinton requires a lot more research into things you don't want to know about.

What I still don't get is why this is generally so ill-understood. I mean Jesus Christ, people, you sent your kids to torture pits and then proceeded to tell them they just had a "bad experience", what the hell else were you expecting to happen? Of course they're going to hate you! And they probably don't hate you nearly as much as they should, because their brains aren't capable of it!

How much do you think I know about hate? I'll tell you all what hate really is.

Hate is spite. Hate is revenge. Hate is always unconditional, as there are no qualifications to hate somebody. You just have to hate him.

Hate is destruction's principal vehicle. It is possible for someone to destroy with no hatred, but usually that someone is already really dangerous. Therefore hate is the only way to put down the shit in this world.

Hate is when someone pulls a mean prank on you, you pretend to forgive him, you go over to his house for a few beers and pour potassium cyanide in his drink. Wife rape optional.

Hate is when your father asks you for computer help, and you remember that one time he started spanking you in front of your friends when you were ten years old, so you go over and stock it full of child porn with backdated filenames to make it look like he's been hoarding it for years, and then call the FBI.

Hate is when you lose your temp-agency job, so you discover the address to email everyone at the host company, and use it to let them know they're all going to lose their jobs (This works best when there's a nugget of truth to it).

Hate is when you rip a man out of the closet and expose him for all to see as the perverted fuckhead he is, for no other reason than his existence disturbs you.

Hate is when you intentionally get AIDS just because you want to spread it to as many people as you can before you kill yourself.

Hate is when someone tries to teach you a lesson, and you intentionally learn the opposite.

Hate is when you look someone in the eyes and smile as you squeeze the trigger to add a third hole between them.

Hate is when you constantly repost Miller Newton's phone number in hopes that people will call him and tell him what they think.

Hate is when a teacher makes fun of you in school, and you end up going into politics thirty years later and, when given the opportunity, viciously, intentionally slash the education budget.

Hate is when your parents send you to SCL, you wait until you've graduated college, and then you retaliate by breaking off all contact and never even letting them see their grandchildren.

Hate is when your daughter skips school a few times and you retaliate by paying thousands of dollars to send her to be "behavior modified".

Hate is when you open up a shitpit to torture children in simply because the idea of children growing up- the process of adolescence- inspires your hate.

There's an old saying: "You can fool the fans, but you can't fool the players", and I'm the fucking grandmaster of this game. I roll my eyes every time the word "therapy" is said on this board, or people start talking about "treatment", or whatever. It's bullshit- it's all bullshit. You don't lock someone up in a little cell called "The Hobbit" unless you hate him. You don't wrap a teenage girl in a straitjacket called a "burrito" unless you hate her, nor do you force her, under threat of hours-long painful restraint, to divulge everything about her sex life. It doesn't matter how long you went to school, or what for, or what your new educational theory is, or anything else. This isn't treatment. This is hate.

The bullshit also comes from our side, as well. Regulatory agencies are a weapon, nothing more. George Miller's House bill is simply a method of removing shit that has no place on this planet. Let's not pretend otherwise.

The really nasty thing about programmies is that the vast majority of them seriously do not know that what they feel is hate. Some of them even think it's love. This leads to the condition known as "sick fuckery", in which horrors are visited upon children "for their own good", which is what feels good to the sadist in question.

But it's still hate.

talk talk talk talk , ive never seen anyone blab so much about themselves before trying to build up a rough exterior.. on the internet of all places... lmfao.  :rofl: and look at these fools who believe your bs. priceless.

[Anonymous]

what if you cant feel hate? or love or any other emotion.. what does that mean? i just like to fuck with peopl efor my own amusement.. but hate.. never known it.

[Anonymous]

Alot of people post here...i dont know what you are saying..but if you go to testimony sites you can find more info...Im trying to get together a "super testimony site" that has everything together..if you look you can find 1000s upon 1000s of "stories"

[Anonymous]

Alot of people post here...i dont know what you are saying..but if you go to testimony sites you can find more info...Im trying to get together a "super testimony site" that has everything together..if you look you can find 1000s upon 1000s of "stories"

that sounds like an awesome idea. i am just curious why more program survivors dont post on this forum, the biggest and most visible one when you search. i am not saYing they do not exist, hardly.

[Anonymous]

Alot of people post here...i dont know what you are saying..but if you go to testimony sites you can find more info...Im trying to get together a "super testimony site" that has everything together..if you look you can find 1000s upon 1000s of "stories"

www.isaccorp.org

[exhausted]

How can you all hate people that never hurt you? The majority of program employees don't abuse children. How can you apply hate to a subject as broad as child abuse? Especially those of you who never experienced it yourself? Do you not have other worries, concerns or resentments from your own life? I am sincerely curious.

There are worse things out there than private teen programs.

:-? That's like saying "you have to have a limb removed, you'll survive, but there are worse things out there, like having cancer"

My point being, just because there are worse things, it doesn't take away the pain from what the individual has suffered

[Anonymous]

i understand the pain of those who suffered. that was addressed to those who never suffered a day and are the most fundamental in their beliefs of anti programism. youd think the real victims would be. leaches on a cause, leaches on a cause.