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« Reply #315 on: February 02, 2007, 04:08:29 PM »
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Okay sounds great. What are the parameters?


Homicides or suicides between the time July 1, 1999 thru June 2000 occuring at a TBS
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« Reply #316 on: February 02, 2007, 04:10:10 PM »
Sabrina E. Day, 15

(R) North Carolina Group Home

February 10, 2000
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« Reply #317 on: February 02, 2007, 04:16:30 PM »
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Sabrina E. Day, 15

(R) North Carolina Group Home

February 10, 2000


Bob, you need to look at the place they are in and how it was classified,  i.e. Accident, Homicide, accidental death, preventable death etc..  This is a group home and it wasnt ruled a Homicide or Suicide.
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« Reply #318 on: February 02, 2007, 04:17:00 PM »
Candace Newmaker age 10

4/18/2000

Evergreen
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« Reply #319 on: February 02, 2007, 04:23:23 PM »
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Bob, I want you to look at the place they are in and how it was classified, i.e. Accident, Homicide, accidental death, preventable death etc.. This is a group home and it wasnt ruled a Homicide or Suicide.


Oh no no no Cindy. I told you last night you can't have it both ways. You wanted to child safety in the public sector, so now were going to compare it to kids in the private sector. No more splitting hairs for you Cindy, sorry.

TBS's, Wilderness, Group Homes, Mental Hospitals, et cet it all gets included. Anything lock down facility that contains a theraputic component.

Don't like it? Tough shit. Remove all the deaths that occured outside of public school and I'll limit it to strickly TBS's and wilderness programs.

Your call.

Oh and the girl youre asking about was restrained to death.
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« Reply #320 on: February 02, 2007, 04:25:49 PM »
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Candace Newmaker age 10

4/18/2000

Evergreen


Bob you dont have any more data to add,  this wasnt even a school it was at someones home, it was attachment therapy by a nurse.

You check the rest.........
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« Reply #321 on: February 02, 2007, 04:27:30 PM »
I hate this argument, but since you insist on continuing with it...

TheWho, there are not 30,000 kids in TBSes. There might be 30,000 kids in programs. If you want to conveniently exclude the 16 homicides you don't like hearing about, then limit your number to the actual number of kids.
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« Reply #322 on: February 02, 2007, 04:28:31 PM »
Here take a look again:
So I am simple comparing a child?s safety at a TBS (24 hours per day) vs not being at a TBS (24 hours per day)
We have this data:

July 1, 1999 thru June 2000  

Outside a TBS:
There where 2,140 Homicides and 1,928 suicides
Inside a TBS
There where 0 Homicides and 2 suicides.
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« Reply #323 on: February 02, 2007, 04:33:02 PM »
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I hate this argument, but since you insist on continuing with it...

TheWho, there are not 30,000 kids in TBSes. There might be 30,000 kids in programs. If you want to conveniently exclude the 16 homicides you don't like hearing about, then limit your number to the actual number of kids.


One of those names that was given to me was a little girl who traveled to a nurses private home to received attachment therapy for a few days.  I am not excluding any data, they just dont fit the parameters.

Okay, lets throw out the 30,000 until we have a better number and stay with the totals.
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« Reply #324 on: February 02, 2007, 04:35:05 PM »
Are you sure Cindy?

http://www.attachmentexperts.com/.

That doesnt look like anyones home. It looks like a training institute. The girl died from asphyxiation brought on by a rebirthing ceremony.
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« Reply #325 on: February 02, 2007, 04:37:54 PM »
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One of those names that was given to me was a little girl who traveled to a nurses private home to received attachment therapy for a few days. I am not excluding any data, they just dont fit the parameters.

Okay, lets throw out the 30,000 until we have a better number and stay with the totals.


Let's not. He's saying the number 30,000 includes kids not just in TBS's but in wilderness programs, group homes, institutes, et cet.

They all count, you want to play with your numbers and add each and every kid you can to prove you claim yet you don't feel the same standards should apply the other way around.

Maybe you should be in one of these places Cindy, you seem to have some real entitlement issues.
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« Reply #326 on: February 02, 2007, 04:40:55 PM »
So then so far we have....

July 1, 1999 thru June 2000

Outside a TBS:
There where 2,140 Homicides and 1,928 suicides
Inside a TBS
There were 2 Homicides and 2 suicides.

Let's see what else we can find.
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« Reply #327 on: February 02, 2007, 04:43:49 PM »
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Are you sure Cindy?

http://www.attachmentexperts.com/.

That doesnt look like anyones home. It looks like a training institute. The girl died from asphyxiation brought on by a rebirthing ceremony.


Wrong again:

Candace and Jeane Newmaker travelled to Connell Watkins' home in Evergreen, Colorado in April, 2000 after Jeane Newmaker scheduled a "ten-day intensive" treatment for Candace with Connell Watkins,........Candace died in the second week of the intensive with Watkins during a "rebirthing" session in Watkins' home in Evergreen

Either way it isnt a TBS.
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« Reply #328 on: February 02, 2007, 04:46:15 PM »
On November 2, 1999, 14-year old Jerry McLaurin died after he was restrained at the New Horizons Ranch.
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« Reply #329 on: February 02, 2007, 04:48:15 PM »
Bob,  You can make it 100 Homicides if you want, its a free country.  But at some point someone will ask you for the names and back up data and you will have to produce it and your credability will go down even lower.......
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