fermeture

[Anonymous]

J'ai lancé un ultimatum à T.Bay !
14 jours pour fermer leurs portes sans quoi je ne jure de rien.
Il y a urgence. Il faut s'y rendre, pénétrer dans le centre, il faut etre nombreux, fairé évacuer nous-mêmes s'il ne le font pas eux. Rendez vous le vendredi 6 février ! A tous ! Libérons ces enfants !

[psy]

J'ai lancé un ultimatum à  T.Bay !
14 jours pour fermer leurs portes sans quoi je ne jure de rien.
Il y a urgence. Il faut s'y rendre, pénétrer dans le centre, il faut etre nombreux, fairé évacuer nous-mêmes s'il ne le font pas eux. Rendez vous le vendredi 6 février ! A tous ! Libérons ces enfants !

Rough Translation

Subject: Closing

I gave an ultimatum to T.Bay!
14 days to close their doors without which i promise nothing.  This is an emergency. It is necessary to return there, break into the centre, it is necessary to be numerous, to make an evacuation ourselves if they do not do it.  Meeting Friday 6th Febuary!  To all!  Let's Liberate the children!

[Anonymous]

And here I thought it was spam.

[Anonymous]

C'mon Ghislain- let's see this shit!!

[psy]

And here I thought it was spam.

That's why i translated it.  Odd that somebody would post in french on this site...  Probably figures Americans could understand it...    8-)

[Anonymous]

Yeah, probably not the best fermenting grape for the wineglass. :lol:

But think, if he does do it without our help, that would mean that we've all been outdone...

...by the French.

::mecry::

[psy]

Yeah, probably not the best fermenting grape for the wineglass. :lol:

But think, if he does do it without our help, that would mean that we've all been outdone...

...by the French.

::mecry::

Hey.  The french don't take shit lying down.  Labor laws piss students off, the whole city goes ape shit, riots break out, cars get burned out etc..  I'd love to see a program try their shit in France.  The locals would bring back the guillotine.   ::bigsmilebounce::  ::stab::

[Anonymous]

I'm just thinking a storming of the Bastille, and then some good old fashioned Robespierre. Guillotine indeed.

I guess I better respond to this in a serious way, though.

Ghislain, some bad news: Fornits is not the place to organize something like this. Especially if you don't speak our language. If you're serious- and it honestly doesn't sound like you're serious in the least- you ought to already have some kind of force on your side before you even attempt something like this. Don't tell me you came here all alone, expecting an army to materialize out of nowhere. I'd love it too, but things don't work like that.

Especially if you announce it in public like this. You ever think that it might be a little, well, y'know.. illegal? Jamaica's laws aren't France's laws, or America's laws for that matter. And great job warning TB, too. :roll:

Personally, I'd love to see the local rastas kick some serious Mormon ass, but it doesn't look like that's going to happen, either.

Ghislain, unless you have a lot more on your side than it looks, put away your soapbox and grab some fucking realism.

[Anonymous]

The TB film must be getting some good airplay over in France.

I was able to email the producers and they emailed me a PDF order form for the full length TB documentary and I am going to order it once I figure out the translation and make sure Im doing it right.

It says something about a "banc transfer" and gives a bank number, I dont know anything about that so I am going to send a money order and hope that works.

Its something like 40 bucks with shipping so hopefully it will work, fingers crossed I really want to see the 90 min version.

Thanks for the translation I figured this was some kind of spam too.

[Anonymous]

What we need is to get this some airtime in Jamaica, and combine it with a special on the racism of Mormons, as well as something on how WWASPS is made to fight marijuana (a sacred herb in the Rastafarian religion).

The locals will go apeshit. We can talk all we want in white man's land about this and that, but if the locals go nuts there's nothing that will stop them. They'll just immolate the place. The only thing we really need is a way to make sure the kids don't get hurt in the middle of it...

Niles and TSW: It's like a habbo raid, only for real.

[Nihilanthic]

The problem is we can not easily get a ton of people to the Old Wharf Hotel...

And yes, Tranquility Bay used to be known as that.

At any rate, its an oppressive hotel full of teenagers with a pool. Thus,


But uh, how do we get the troops there? And um, aren't the guards there armed? And wouldn't the Embassy there basically side with the Kays?

And isn't an anti terror law about to get us all in some deep shit?  :roll: Keep dreaming, but unless our French friend has some serious coin and knows the right people, this will not go anywhere. I would like to see a LEGAL protest, but  that would cost almost as much money to do, and would get even less attention.

You're gonna have to start shit up that will get on the news in the USA, basically, and I doubt any action in France would make the cut - same for anything in Jamaica short of crossing the line, and I will not condone that.

Not because its illegal, but because I don't  want to see people thrown in jail (or gitmo) over this shit. But the fact that it is illegal is a big factor too!

[psy]

Niles.  You know freeing slaves was illegal, yet the Underground Railroad existed.  Hiding Jews in WWII Germany was illegal.  DO the right thing, regardless of the consequences, you'll feel better about yourself.

In this case, the legal system has been completely exhausted...  Meanwhile, the kids are suffering.  Screw the legality of the thing, storm the place, and the evidence collected in the aftermath will be your vindication.  Even if you do time for it...  isn't the prevented suffering worth it?

I wish, i really wish, there were programs in the Northern VA / DC area.

Unlike you.  I DO condone any action ending the existence of such facilities.  Unlike you, i am unafraid to say it publicly.  I don't give a good god damn about "terror", or any other legislation.  I do what I believe is right.

You assist an evil system most effectively by obeying its orders and decrees. An evil system never deserves such allegiance. Allegiance to it means partaking of the evil. A good person will resist an evil system with his or her whole soul.

[Anonymous]

I wish, i really wish, there were programs in the Northern VA / DC area.

No you don't. Sit back for a moment and think how lucky you are to be among people who just don't do that shit. The culture forbids. It ought to forbid it everywhere.

Seriously Psy, if you're going to risk your ass going gung-fucking-ho against a program, can't you at least spend time planning it and then carrying it out in the summer? :roll:

I hope law enforcement is reading this. HEY LAW ENFORCEMENT! Big :wave: to all the LEOs out in the audience. Protecting kids from sadists is supposed to be your job, remember? Good job on the Hinton business, I'm sure you were reading this site, but there's too many others out there. It's the same goddamn sicko shit everywhere in this business. These places can't let themselves be regulated (as in, stopped from hurting kids) for a reason. Search the site and read the horror stories if you don't believe me.

[Nihilanthic]

Niles.  You know freeing slaves was illegal, yet the Underground Railroad existed.  Hiding Jews in WWII Germany was illegal.  DO the right thing, regardless of the consequences, you'll feel better about yourself.

In this case, the legal system has been completely exhausted...  Meanwhile, the kids are suffering.  Screw the legality of the thing, storm the place, and the evidence collected in the aftermath will be your vindication.  Even if you do time for it...  isn't the prevented suffering worth it?

I wish, i really wish, there were programs in the Northern VA / DC area.

Unlike you.  I DO condone any action ending the existence of such facilities.  Unlike you, i am unafraid to say it publicly.  I don't give a good god damn about "terror", or any other legislation.  I do what I believe is right.

You assist an evil system most effectively by obeying its orders and decrees. An evil system never deserves such allegiance. Allegiance to it means partaking of the evil. A good person will resist an evil system with his or her whole soul.

I know better than to fuck around with the anti terror laws and end up with no habeas corpus rights and in GITMO, Psy.

I also don't want to drag ginger into anything like that.

If you wanna hang your balls out like that, more power to you. But the farthest I will support publically is going to be civil disobedience, and I'd rather do it right, without breaking any laws, and without potentially fucking up and giving them ammo to use against us.

Overlordd got slapped with THUH LAW over this shit, but he had some help. I don't have ANY except for what the lovely men and women of fornits might offer to me... so unless a lot of rich lurkers feel like stepping up to the plate, uh, wtf do you expect me to say?

Doing nothing is better than majorly fucking up publically, Psy. We have ONE chance to get this into the news without it turning into a propaganda victory for these fuckwads.

If you wanna do it, DO IT RIGHT. Go work for a program and report them for shit you see personally, or stage a legal protest.

[Anonymous]

Liebe Verzweifelte Eltern:

Wir von den stolzen Bürgern von Deutschland Wunsch, unsere gütigsten Grüße auszudehnen. Hier in Deutschland sind wir auf von unseren gemeinen Konzentrationslagernwurzeln fortgeschritten. Wir keine längeren Gase der undesirables. Anstatt wir predigen für das muss formen Kinder in Ein wie Gemüt. Für dieses haben wir das Hilter Jugend Programm wiedergeeinsetzt. Für ein sehr preiswert die ganzen Kinder von Deutschland werden in Ein geformt, wie Körper bedacht hat. Ich wünsche nur, dass wir Ihnen arme rückwärts Amerikaner die gleiche Hand in Freundschaft anbieten könnten, damit Ihre Kinder nicht kennen würden, dass die Hölle durchleben von Leben mit einem Kolostomiensack.

Vielen Dank,

Kapitän Mark DeMarc