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« Reply #30 on: January 05, 2007, 11:23:45 AM »
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I'm an idiot when it comes to this stuff, so how do you copy/paste now?  I did before by just highlighting and then doing ctrl C, instead of right click.  Now I can't even highlight the material I want to copy.  How do I do that?


1.  In your browser window, click on "File" and select "Save As" from the dropdown menu.  

2.  In the ensuing dialogue box, select a save location (like "Desktop" or "My Documents" or whatever) from the top dropdown menu called "Save in".  

3.  Name the file as you'd like it saved by clicking in the cell called "File name" near the bottom of the dialogue box and typing in the name you desire.  

4.  In the lowermost dropdown menu (beneath the "File name" cell) called "Save as type" select "Text File (.txt)" from the dropdown choices and click "Save."

5.  Browse to the location in which you chose to save the file and double-click on the file you created. It will open in Notepad.  

6.  In Notepad, highlight the desired text and press Ctrl + C.  Drop your mouse in the desired paste location and press Ctrl + V.

Your "forbidden to be copied text" is now happily pasted into it's final location.

Enjoy.
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« Reply #31 on: January 05, 2007, 11:49:40 AM »
No point in wasting time with those shitheads. They believe what they need to believe in order to be deficient parents by choice. Don't fall for their bullshit pity party, it's all an act. That's all they know anyways, pretense.
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« Reply #32 on: January 05, 2007, 12:04:06 PM »
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I'm an idiot when it comes to this stuff, so how do you copy/paste now?  I did before by just highlighting and then doing ctrl C, instead of right click.  Now I can't even highlight the material I want to copy.  How do I do that?

1.  In your browser window, click on "File" and select "Save As" from the dropdown menu.  

2.  In the ensuing dialogue box, select a save location (like "Desktop" or "My Documents" or whatever) from the top dropdown menu called "Save in".  

3.  Name the file as you'd like it saved by clicking in the cell called "File name" near the bottom of the dialogue box and typing in the name you desire.  

4.  In the lowermost dropdown menu (beneath the "File name" cell) called "Save as type" select "Text File (.txt)" from the dropdown choices and click "Save."

5.  Browse to the location in which you chose to save the file and double-click on the file you created. It will open in Notepad.  

6.  In Notepad, highlight the desired text and press Ctrl + C.  Drop your mouse in the desired paste location and press Ctrl + V.

Your "forbidden to be copied text" is now happily pasted into it's final location.

Enjoy.


Thanks, I appreciate it.  I'm glad at least the highlighting is working, I wouldn't go to ^^^ that much trouble to do it.
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« Reply #33 on: January 05, 2007, 11:06:22 PM »
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Yes I do, I could have done with a good kick up the arse as a kid, i was a spoilt, nasty brat, defiant, rude, disrespectful, obnoxious, really hateful and unruly, and no-one stopped me, i resent that fact to this day....it's caused me alot of problems as an adult


I am curious....do you feel like your mom was very loving and not mean enough? (spoiling you)

Or do you feel like your mom was unloving and mean but gave you no guidence? (neglecting you)

They are very different. Ive never met a spoiled kid who goes on to be "unruly"..Rather the spolt kids go on to be socially obedient,
and quite sucessful. Unfortunetly, feeling you are entitled, confident, and that people are going to care for you no matter what- usually works to peoples benifit. On the other hand, neglected kids- they become unruly

It is a fallacy that what ailing kids need is a "kick in the ass". Its a fallacy that terrorizing a kid creates a good adult. Terrorizing somone works if you want to get him to hand over his wallet, not as the base for the most primal bond there is. If terrorizing kids worked well..then program graduates or child survivors of forced prostitution would be the most well of people there are It doesnt work that way.

Ultimately, as terrible as neglect is, going further and totruring a kid through a program (done in addition to neglecting him) is going to make things worse. Its like not being fed enough AND getting hit over the head really hard everyday.
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« Reply #34 on: January 05, 2007, 11:14:54 PM »
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They are very different. Ive never met a spoiled kid who goes on to be "unruly"..Rather the spolt kids go on to be socially obedient,
and quite sucessful. Unfortunetly, feeling you are entitled, confident, and that people are going to care for you no matter what- usually works to peoples benifit. On the other hand, neglected kids- they become unruly


Not always the case. Overprotective parents can also produce unruly kids. (Points to self.)
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« Reply #35 on: January 05, 2007, 11:43:33 PM »
I think all program kids have a chemical imbalance in their brain. Seek FDA advice to rebalance your brain chemicals. That is all.
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« Reply #36 on: January 06, 2007, 12:00:50 AM »
I agree. Neglect and overprotection can create the same outcome. 'Under-loved' or 'over-loved', both black holes- grieving/searching for the piece(s) they weren't given, and can manifest the exact 'symptoms' with minor differences. And I use 'loved' loosely, as I've seen many a kid horrendously abused/neglected in the name of love.  
When you boil it all down, it's pretty simple. Humans need to have their basic needs for survival met,  feel they belong, be provided accurate information, and have modeled for them how to function in a group (family, society, world).
In that sense, you see that overprotection is a form of neglect as well. So, the curler's kid can be just as unruly as the crack whore's, or more so, depending on the factors involved.
Those who seem to fare best are the ones who somehow manage to  grieve the loss (consciously or not), put it all in perspective, and give those things to themselves the best they can.
Few humans have had all their needs met, therefore can't provide them. Welcome to the human condition. We've all been, and continue to be, conditioned toward division. It's good for the economy!!! Bad for humans.
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« Reply #37 on: January 06, 2007, 01:05:47 AM »
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We've all been, and continue to be, conditioned toward division. It's good for the economy!!! Bad for humans.


That's definitely the feeling I've been getting lately...
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« Reply #38 on: January 06, 2007, 02:05:16 AM »
Seek advice from the FDA?! That is completely ridiculous, but I hope you will the enjoy the mood swings
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« Reply #39 on: January 06, 2007, 04:03:13 AM »
"Not always the case. Overprotective parents can also produce unruly kids. (Points to self.)"
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I agree. Neglect and overprotection can create the same outcome. 'Under-loved' or 'over-loved', both black holes- grieving/searching for the piece(s) they weren't given, and can manifest the exact 'symptoms' with minor differences. And I use 'loved' loosely, as I've seen many a kid horrendously abused/neglected in the name of love.
When you boil it all down, it's pretty simple. Humans need to have their basic needs for survival met, feel they belong, be provided accurate information, and have modeled for them how to function in a group (family, society, world).
In that sense, you see that overprotection is a form of neglect as well. So, the curler's kid can be just as unruly as the crack whore's, or more so, depending on the factors involved.
Those who seem to fare best are the ones who somehow manage to grieve the loss (consciously or not), put it all in perspective, and give those things to themselves the best they can.
Few humans have had all their needs met, therefore can't provide them. Welcome to the human condition. We've all been, and continue to be, conditioned toward division. It's good for the economy!!! Bad for humans."
 

These terms like spoiled v overprotected are very amorphous so its hard to comunicate with them, but they mean different things to me. Im not sure what you mean by overprotected, but by spoiled I mean given too much positive attention (if such a thing exists)
Whereas with neglect you are not given any positive attention. -any attention period.

With neglect you are not having any basic needs met period, while with being spoiled your basic needs are all met but some of the more "supplemental" elements are lacking.

 So your mother and father spend lots of time with you, are kind to you, have a freindship with you, - but if youdont want to take the garbage out, no ones stressing. With neglect there is no bond ,no one will spend time with you and no one is kind. You are alone in a wilderness.
This produces different symptoms.  The Jewish American Princess and the little girl whose parents locked her in a room in for the first 8 years of her life may both seem distracted, but the Jap has the capability of engaging where as the neglected child simply has not develouped the ability. In fact, perhaps the "symptoms" are from a far distance akin, but they are evidence of diseases that are worlds apart in terminality.

Heres a blog about spoiled children...things can go wrong..but not really in the "troubled" sense.
http://64.233.161.104/search?q=cache:yE ... =clnk&cd=5
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« Reply #40 on: January 06, 2007, 04:31:31 AM »
To clear up any vagueness, here's my take on overprotected vs. spoiled:

Spoiled means the child never has to want for anything. Whatever he/she asks for, they get. They grow up with an overblown sense of self-entitlement, where they think that they are the center of the universe, and it is everyone else's job to cater to them. They rarely have to do anything for themselves. Their parents are "yes men".

Overprotected means that the parents either a. don't trust the child, b. don't trust the world the child lives in or c. both. The child is often henpecked and nagged about minor things, such as appearance and rambunctious behavior ("stop embarrassing us!"), they are overdressed in mild weather, not given much freedom when venturing out on their own, and their physical/mental health is often obsessed over. They are sent to doctors for the slightest sniffle, sent to shrinks for the mildest of behavior quirks. They are fussed over, micromanaged, restricted. The more "difficult" the child, the tighter the noose. Often, when the child becomes a teenager, he/she could often be suspected of misbehavior that they did not even do. (Such as using drugs.) The parents have a desire to have control over every part of their child's life. It is also common (but  not a steadfast rule) for overprotective parents to be narcissists. They control their child just so, because they want their child to be their mirror.

These are broad generalizations. Just because I grew up with overprotective parents doesn't mean they exactly fit the description given above, item per item. (read: I am not painting a picture of my parents.) I was just trying to draw a distinction between the two things.

And of course, these two things aren't necessarily mutually exclusive, either. A child can certainly have parents who spoil them to some extent but who are also controlling and want to shelter them from everything.


BTW, who screwed up the frames on this page? It's driving me nuts.
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« Reply #41 on: January 06, 2007, 08:33:44 PM »
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Yes I do, I could have done with a good kick up the arse as a kid, i was a spoilt, nasty brat, defiant, rude, disrespectful, obnoxious, really hateful and unruly, and no-one stopped me, i resent that fact to this day....it's caused me alot of problems as an adult

I am curious....do you feel like your mom was very loving and not mean enough? (spoiling you)

Or do you feel like your mom was unloving and mean but gave you no guidence? (neglecting you)

They are very different. Ive never met a spoiled kid who goes on to be "unruly"..Rather the spolt kids go on to be socially obedient,
and quite sucessful. Unfortunetly, feeling you are entitled, confident, and that people are going to care for you no matter what- usually works to peoples benifit. On the other hand, neglected kids- they become unruly

It is a fallacy that what ailing kids need is a "kick in the ass". Its a fallacy that terrorizing a kid creates a good adult. Terrorizing somone works if you want to get him to hand over his wallet, not as the base for the most primal bond there is. If terrorizing kids worked well..then program graduates or child survivors of forced prostitution would be the most well of people there are It doesnt work that way.

Ultimately, as terrible as neglect is, going further and totruring a kid through a program (done in addition to neglecting him) is going to make things worse. Its like not being fed enough AND getting hit over the head really hard everyday.
I feel like she couldn't be bothered to parent me, it was all too much hassle for her to actually place boundaries and ruules and make the effort to enforce them, it was much easier to let me do what I liked with no consequences than make me folow her rules, that's not a loving parent, parents don't always get their rules followed, (points at self) but please, at least give your kids some guidelines in the first place - lazy parenting means you don't care enough about your kid to go through the fights that go with enforcing the rules
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