That woman

[Anonymous]

You are being very naive.  A child should be kept OUT of the legal system by any means.  If you think being in a juvenile detention facility is preferable to a therapeutic school, you are gravely mistaken.  The teen is exposed to hardened criminals, gets worthless education and loses all hope for higher level post-high school education.  You may try to claim this happens at a teen help school, but it is simply not even in the same league.  

If I were Cowdude, I would not have posted this conversation with this woman because it makes him look like a stupid and immature little kid.  She absolutely slaughtered him.  I'm sure she expected him to put the text on this site, which is why she even engaged with him.  Also, if you follow the thread, the reply of "That's right" referred to the fact that her son lost a year of his life, not to the fact that she "made him that way".
Cowdude, I assume you are slinking away with your tail between your legs.  I gather you weren't on the debate team at school.  Boy, did you get hammered.

[Anonymous]

You are being very naive.  A child should be kept OUT of the legal system by any means.  If you think being in a juvenile detention facility is preferable to a therapeutic school, you are gravely mistaken.  The teen is exposed to hardened criminals, gets worthless education and loses all hope for higher level post-high school education.  You may try to claim this happens at a teen help school, but it is simply not even in the same league.  

If I were Cowdude, I would not have posted this conversation with this woman because it makes him look like a stupid and immature little kid.  She absolutely slaughtered him.  I'm sure she expected him to put the text on this site, which is why she even engaged with him.  Also, if you follow the thread, the reply of "That's right" referred to the fact that her son lost a year of his life, not to the fact that she "made him that way".
Cowdude, I assume you are slinking away with your tail between your legs.  I gather you weren't on the debate team at school.  Boy, did you get hammered.

You are a skilled and funny satirist, or you are karen.

You know what looks stupid, someone refusing to acknowledge what everybody else already knows.

[Anonymous]

FLCLcowdude (7:47:00 PM): He was out of control, because you let him get that way!
NikeKSA1 (7:47:10 PM): that's right- and a year where he made dear friends who he still talks to and sees all the time- a year where he straightened out his life- a year with mentors that helped him see wehre he wanted to go next

So instead of spending time reccomending programs online and defending your actions, why not instead elaborate on what led to your child becoming an 'out of control teen' in the first place. This would be much more useful information for everybody, what exactly causes a teen to be out of control -- maybe you could help parents from ever having to even decide on whether to use a program.

The silence is deafening.

[Anonymous]

yeah, that's karen - the carlbrook troll mom.

kid flunked junior year at tbs, was a junkie

mom watches films of junkie kid cornholing girlfriend

dad is gay

mom is beard for gay dad

daughter became clergy so god could help her understand her twisted family

that sums it up

hi, karen ::bangin::

I wonder if she kept the videos?

[Anonymous]

None of the above is true.  Kid did so well academically at TBS that he left to go to strong prep school.  Dad is not gay and, by the way, has never lived in California (another frequent claim on this forum), mom is not a beard, mom doesn't watch videos of kid, daughter is not clergy but is in college (where in the hell did you get THAT one?)
Another Parent from ST

[Anonymous]

NikeKSA1 (7:34:22 PM): first of all, only 1 went to any type of program

Is it just coincidence that the other child spent two years in a boarding school as well?

[Anonymous]

The other child went to an arts academy- by choice.

[Anonymous]

This has been covered overandoverandover again?  Who cares.

[Anonymous]

Sounds like that house was falling apart, having to ship off both kids, seems kind of weird.

[FLCLcowdude]

You are being very naive.  A child should be kept OUT of the legal system by any means.  If you think being in a juvenile detention facility is preferable to a therapeutic school, you are gravely mistaken.  The teen is exposed to hardened criminals, gets worthless education and loses all hope for higher level post-high school education.  You may try to claim this happens at a teen help school, but it is simply not even in the same league.  

If I were Cowdude, I would not have posted this conversation with this woman because it makes him look like a stupid and immature little kid.  She absolutely slaughtered him.  I'm sure she expected him to put the text on this site, which is why she even engaged with him.  Also, if you follow the thread, the reply of "That's right" referred to the fact that her son lost a year of his life, not to the fact that she "made him that way".
Cowdude, I assume you are slinking away with your tail between your legs.  I gather you weren't on the debate team at school.  Boy, did you get hammered.

I really am just an angry person, and I am just trying to save children from people like you. Why do you feel you have to stand up for Karen? The only program that would work is one that is not for profit, and one that is not abusive. Lets see, that knocks off every single one of them. Emotionally scarring a child is not the way to go...

[MightyAardvark]

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None of the above is true.  Kid did so well academically at TBS that he left to go to strong prep school.  Dad is not gay and, by the way, has never lived in California (another frequent claim on this forum), mom is not a beard, mom doesn't watch videos of kid, daughter is not clergy but is in college (where in the hell did you get THAT one?)
Another Parent from ST

Ask Karen about "Reverend Bitch."  She's already posted it on the internet.  Also posted about finding and watching the video of her kid poking his girl. Your facts are not correct.

Oh, yeah, and you're "Not Karen."  I know.  I know.

[Troll Control]

carlbrookmom
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 Posted: Sun Oct 15, 2006 1:50 am     Post subject: Son went to Carlbrook  

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Most of these comments are SO way off base about Carlbrook. My son was among one of the first graduating classes of the school at the end of 2004. CARLBROOK SAVED HIS LIFE. He gained back his feelings of self-worth and self-esteem. He believed in himself again after years of feeling he would never amount to anything. He felt motivated to do his schoolwork again. The sparkle came back into his eyes. He stands tall and proud. He is confident. And now, in his second year in College, he is a straight A student at the top Engineering school in the country (something Justin Merritt, Carlbrook's College Advisor, worked hours to help make happen.)

The founders of the school sacrificed a great deal to give up their businesses, careers, etc. and relocate to the middle of Virginia. They then put their hearts, souls, money, futures into this dream of theirs which was to make the perfect school for kids who are today, like they were when they were teens. They culled the best talent and won them over to leave everything and bring their families to Virginia to join them in building this dream. All of these educators, counselors, people who were so experienced in working with troubled teens knew that so many schools fall provide inadequate programs that do not improve these kids at all. Grant and Matthew wanted to develop a program that they wished they had had, back when they were teens. They felt that with the right staff and resources, they could succeed in getting kids back on track.

Grant Price and Matthew Lovell had a vision and brought in the talent (including themselves) to make it a reality. My son now keeps in touch with many successful alumnae of Carlbrook who continue to be doing well in College and have not lapsed back into old patterns.

For parents considering these schools: Do research...Use an education Consultant if there is a good one in your community. He/she will guide you toward a good fit for your child. Good luck



And as a parent, I can tell you, for my son, I will be forever indebted to them.


 
 

this is the motivation behind posters like karen and carlbrooktrollmom.  when you see the "true believers" it really gets clear.  

these are the weakest-minded among us.  they don't think rationally any longer and their vocabularies are laden with program-speak.

this is how this network of businesses proagates.  they get a stoolie on the hook and use them to mindlessly propagandize without facts or evidence to other stoolies who in turn do the same.  these people are incapable of factual discussion and retreat into fallacy when challenged.

this is why i never try to scare them away.  i try to let them talk because evry once in a while you can get a good glimpse at who's behind the curtain...

[Anonymous]

You are being very naive.  A child should be kept OUT of the legal system by any means.  If you think being in a juvenile detention facility is preferable to a therapeutic school, you are gravely mistaken.  The teen is exposed to hardened criminals, gets worthless education and loses all hope for higher level post-high school education.  You may try to claim this happens at a teen help school, but it is simply not even in the same league.  

SNIP

mmm, why do Juvenile detention centres have lower recidivism rates, higher highschool graduation rates and better child abuse records than Behaviour modificaiton centres?

I'm not saying juvie is good.
I'm saying BM is fucking awful

Cite your sources, MA?

[Dr Phil]

Ya know, there are more options than juvenille hall (calling cops on kid) and a program three thousand miles away. I know program parents like to limit the debate to these two choices, but it just ain't true.