Hyde School is doing a lot of things right.

[MisfitParent]

Over 60 kids graduated this year and seemed to be very grateful for their Hyde experience. A few people on this site seem to be very negative towards Hyde, but most of it seems like misguided anger. Maturity helps you realize things about yourself and there seems to be lots of immaturity here, often disguised by big words and seemingly concerned rhetoric.

[Anonymous]

Over 60 kids graduated this year and seemed to be very grateful for their Hyde experience. A few people on this site seem to be very negative towards Hyde, but most of it seems like misguided anger. Maturity helps you realize things about yourself and there seems to be lots of immaturity here, often disguised by big words and seemingly concerned rhetoric.

That's great that 60 kids graduated.  I wish them well and hope Hyde was a valuable experience.

I have several questions:  Is that a total of 60 for Woodstock and Bath?  How many kids started at Hyde and left before graduation?  What percentage does this 60 represent?  Of the kids who left before graduating, why did they leave?  I think that will give a more complete picture of who succeeds at Hyde and who doesn't.  I'd like to know what Hyde's attrition rate is like and I'd like feedback about what doesn't work at Hyde.  Isn't that important too?  My impression is that Hyde has an unusually high attrition rate.

[Anne Bonney]

Over 60 kids graduated this year and seemed to be very grateful for their Hyde experience. A few people on this site seem to be very negative towards Hyde, but most of it seems like misguided anger. Maturity helps you realize things about yourself and there seems to be lots of immaturity here, often disguised by big words and seemingly concerned rhetoric.

Why is it that anyone that has any criticism about Hyde is automatically labeled as "misguided" or "angry" or "disgruntled" or "not working their program" or "immature" or "haven't looked at their own issues" or "disturbed" or......well, you see what I'm getting at.

Do you people ever answer for your own behavior?  I also notice that you guys go after the easy targets here.  Kids (or grown adults now) are angry.  They've got a right to be.  Some lash out and get a little outrageous here, I've got no problem with it....I get it.  But there are also people here who are asking relevant questions and y'all ignore those and always seem to find the time to address the angry posts.  What about answering some of the salient questions and concerns that have been posted?

[Anonymous]

I wasn't in Hyde. I was in one of it's predecessors years ago and I recongnize the bullshit when I see it.
Do you people ever answer for your own behavior?  I also notice that you guys go after the easy targets here.  Kids (or grown adults now) are angry.  They've got a right to be.  Some lash out and get a little outrageous here, I've got no problem with it....I get it.  But there are also people here who are asking relevant questions and y'all ignore those and always seem to find the time to address the angry posts.  What about answering some of the salient questions and concerns that have been posted?

Anne... you know nothing, and it's clear from your writing. You never even went to this school, but yet you "know" all about it. Salient questions and concerns should NEVER be addressed in this forum, as they are only distorted and attacked by your type, who have nothing better to do with their lives. As was said before, why don't you just go away...

[Anonymous]

Over 60 kids graduated this year and seemed to be very grateful for their Hyde experience. A few people on this site seem to be very negative towards Hyde, but most of it seems like misguided anger. Maturity helps you realize things about yourself and there seems to be lots of immaturity here, often disguised by big words and seemingly concerned rhetoric.

Misfitparent, you are entitled to your own opinion, but the consensus seems to be that Hyde has harmed an awful lot of families.  Yes, they might have helped some families, but your figures are far off.  Did you go to school at Hyde?  Where do you get your info from?  Instead of attacking Anne, maybe you ought to go preach your gospel somewhere else because it is clear you don't know what you are talking about.  Give us some proof that Hyde graduated 60 students and that the families are grateful.  Look at the alumni list and you will see there ain't too many "grateful" families!!  At the same time you are giving us those stats why don't you also give us the stats on the kids who start Hyde and never finish.

[Anne Bonney]

Anne... you know nothing, and it's clear from your writing. You never even went to this school, but yet you "know" all about it. Salient questions and concerns should NEVER be addressed in this forum, as they are only distorted and attacked by your type, who have nothing better to do with their lives. As was said before, why don't you just go away...

Why don't you?   :rofl:

I never said I knew all about it, I said I reconize bullshit when I see it.   Once again, you ignore relevant questions and go after the easy, ad hominems.   You continually show that you've got nothing to add to the conversation except personal attacks on those who disagree with you.  You can't refute the points we make so instead you just attack the messenger.   That's usually what happens when someone realizes they're losing an argument or debate.

[MisfitParent]

Over 60 kids graduated this year and seemed to be very grateful for their Hyde experience. A few people on this site seem to be very negative towards Hyde, but most of it seems like misguided anger. Maturity helps you realize things about yourself and there seems to be lots of immaturity here, often disguised by big words and seemingly concerned rhetoric.

That's great that 60 kids graduated.  I wish them well and hope Hyde was a valuable experience.

I have several questions:  Is that a total of 60 for Woodstock and Bath?  How many kids started at Hyde and left before graduation?  What percentage does this 60 represent?  Of the kids who left before graduating, why did they leave?  I think that will give a more complete picture of who succeeds at Hyde and who doesn't.  I'd like to know what Hyde's attrition rate is like and I'd like feedback about what doesn't work at Hyde.  Isn't that important too?  My impression is that Hyde has an unusually high attrition rate.

That number was for Bath. Don't know about Woodstock, but I think it was somewhere in the mid-40s. You could probably get that info from Hyde in Woodstock. I can't speak to the attrition numbers or your impression of them, but I believe the ones who graduated would speak to their own experience in a positive way. That was the point of my post.

[MisfitParent]

Over 60 kids graduated this year and seemed to be very grateful for their Hyde experience. A few people on this site seem to be very negative towards Hyde, but most of it seems like misguided anger. Maturity helps you realize things about yourself and there seems to be lots of immaturity here, often disguised by big words and seemingly concerned rhetoric.

Why is it that anyone that has any criticism about Hyde is automatically labeled as "misguided" or "angry" or "disgruntled" or "not working their program" or "immature" or "haven't looked at their own issues" or "disturbed" or......well, you see what I'm getting at.

Do you people ever answer for your own behavior?  I also notice that you guys go after the easy targets here.  Kids (or grown adults now) are angry.  They've got a right to be.  Some lash out and get a little outrageous here, I've got no problem with it....I get it.  But there are also people here who are asking relevant questions and y'all ignore those and always seem to find the time to address the angry posts.  What about answering some of the salient questions and concerns that have been posted?

Not sure what you mean by "you people" Bonney and not sure I was going after any "easy targets". I didn't say anyone was misguided or angry, I said that in the case of a few negative people, their anger seemed perhaps misguided. Please don't put words in my mouth and twist my post to sound as if I am attacking anyone (as you seem to). I think anonymous might be giving you some good advice...

[MisfitParent]

Over 60 kids graduated this year and seemed to be very grateful for their Hyde experience. A few people on this site seem to be very negative towards Hyde, but most of it seems like misguided anger. Maturity helps you realize things about yourself and there seems to be lots of immaturity here, often disguised by big words and seemingly concerned rhetoric.

Misfitparent, you are entitled to your own opinion, but the consensus seems to be that Hyde has harmed an awful lot of families.  Yes, they might have helped some families, but your figures are far off.  Did you go to school at Hyde?  Where do you get your info from?  Instead of attacking Anne, maybe you ought to go preach your gospel somewhere else because it is clear you don't know what you are talking about.  Give us some proof that Hyde graduated 60 students and that the families are grateful.  Look at the alumni list and you will see there ain't too many "grateful" families!!  At the same time you are giving us those stats why don't you also give us the stats on the kids who start Hyde and never finish.

Guest, Consensus of whom? The consensus of the people I know seems to be that Hyde offers a challenging and rewarding experience. I don't see how my comments are an attack leveled at Anne, and I don't see where you get off telling me to go somewhere else for noting the number of graduates this year (66 on the program), who spoke well of their experience at their graduation. I might ask you to re-read my comment about misguided anger, as you seem to be supporting it.

[Anne Bonney]

Not sure what you mean by "you people" Bonney and not sure I was going after any "easy targets". I didn't say anyone was misguided or angry, I said that in the case of a few negative people, their anger seemed perhaps misguided. Please don't put words in my mouth and twist my post to sound as if I am attacking anyone (as you seem to). I think anonymous might be giving you some good advice...

These two posts look like personal attacks to me.  Questioning someone else's maturity level, dismissing anything negative about Hyde  as "rhetoric" or said out of a "lack of maturity", telling me to "just go away".  

Over 60 kids graduated this year and seemed to be very grateful for their Hyde experience. A few people on this site seem to be very negative towards Hyde, but most of it seems like misguided anger. Maturity helps you realize things about yourself and there seems to be lots of immaturity here, often disguised by big words and seemingly concerned rhetoric.

Anne... you know nothing, and it's clear from your writing. You never even went to this school, but yet you "know" all about it. Salient questions and concerns should NEVER be addressed in this forum, as they are only distorted and attacked by your type, who have nothing better to do with their lives. As was said before, why don't you just go away...

So, how does Hyde bring about these miraculous changes in their "students"?  What's the process?  How does the "character based education" that's advertised at Hyde work?

[Anne Bonney]

 At the same time you are giving us those stats why don't you also give us the stats on the kids who start Hyde and never finish.

I'd like to see that too.

[MisfitParent]

Not sure what you mean by "you people" Bonney and not sure I was going after any "easy targets". I didn't say anyone was misguided or angry, I said that in the case of a few negative people, their anger seemed perhaps misguided. Please don't put words in my mouth and twist my post to sound as if I am attacking anyone (as you seem to). I think anonymous might be giving you some good advice...

These two posts look like personal attacks to me.  Questioning someone else's maturity level, dismissing anything negative about Hyde  as "rhetoric" or said out of a "lack of maturity", telling me to "just go away".  

Over 60 kids graduated this year and seemed to be very grateful for their Hyde experience. A few people on this site seem to be very negative towards Hyde, but most of it seems like misguided anger. Maturity helps you realize things about yourself and there seems to be lots of immaturity here, often disguised by big words and seemingly concerned rhetoric.

Anne... you know nothing, and it's clear from your writing. You never even went to this school, but yet you "know" all about it. Salient questions and concerns should NEVER be addressed in this forum, as they are only distorted and attacked by your type, who have nothing better to do with their lives. As was said before, why don't you just go away...

So, how does Hyde bring about these miraculous changes in their "students"?  What's the process?  How does the "character based education" that's advertised at Hyde work?

Alas Bonney, I'm afraid it may be too late for you. If you wish knowledge, seek it at the source, don't ask others to do what you can do better yourself. As for attacks, my comments were not intended as such, but it seems you do have a way of inviting them with the way you lash out at visitors to this site.

[Anne Bonney]

Alas Bonney, I'm afraid it may be too late for you. If you wish knowledge, seek it at the source, don't ask others to do what you can do better yourself. As for attacks, my comments were not intended as such, but it seems you do have a way of inviting them with the way you lash out at visitors to this site.

You seem to have appointed yourself spokesperson, so I was asking.  What, can't answer the question?  If you've got so much faith in Hyde and what they do for kids, what's the problem with asking some questions about how it works?

Where did I lash out at anyone?

[Anonymous]

I ask you again Misfit, what about all the students who start Hyde and drop out?  I can answer that for you.  More students drop out than stay at Hyde and guess what?  Every single one of those parents lose thousands and thousands of dollars while Joe Gauld's pockets get bigger and bigger.  When he stands up there on his throne talking about how he doesn't get rich off of Hyde and he isn't in it for the money, he is full of it!!  The guy is very wealthy and the empire they are building is off of false promises to families.

Oh and by the way, if indeed you do have anything to do with this school which I doubt, you would know that those happy faces up there at graduation is because we couldn't wait to get out of that hell hole!!  Believe it or not we were told to kiss Joe Gauld upon getting our diploma.  He likes to put on a good show for the parents.

I've seen it over and over again on this website about Hyde being a Cult.  There is no doubt that it does fall under that definition.

[MisfitParent]

I ask you again Misfit, what about all the students who start Hyde and drop out?  I can answer that for you.  More students drop out than stay at Hyde and guess what?  Every single one of those parents lose thousands and thousands of dollars while Joe Gauld's pockets get bigger and bigger.  When he stands up there on his throne talking about how he doesn't get rich off of Hyde and he isn't in it for the money, he is full of it!!  The guy is very wealthy and the empire they are building is off of false promises to families.

Oh and by the way, if indeed you do have anything to do with this school which I doubt, you would know that those happy faces up there at graduation is because we couldn't wait to get out of that hell hole!!  Believe it or not we were told to kiss Joe Gauld upon getting our diploma.  He likes to put on a good show for the parents.

I've seen it over and over again on this website about Hyde being a Cult.  There is no doubt that it does fall under that definition.

As I understand it, Hyde is a non-profit organization run by a Board of Trustees. No money, other than a salary, goes into anyone's pocket there. Did you graduate from Hyde? Funny, I talked to several at length after the ceremony, and they all seemed to be very proud, pleased and grateful of their experience. Not sure that everyone kissed Joe Gauld, and I recall one rather brushed him off. Oh well. Did he try to slip you some tongue when he kissed you? If you look up the definition of cult, I find it hard to see where Hyde would fit within it. It's easy to name-call and that seems to happen a lot here as well.