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Re: Hyde School is doing a lot of things right.
« Reply #15 on: August 23, 2006, 02:32:12 PM »
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Alas Bonney, I'm afraid it may be too late for you. If you wish knowledge, seek it at the source, don't ask others to do what you can do better yourself. As for attacks, my comments were not intended as such, but it seems you do have a way of inviting them with the way you lash out at visitors to this site.


You seem to have appointed yourself spokesperson, so I was asking.  What, can't answer the question?  If you've got so much faith in Hyde and what they do for kids, what's the problem with asking some questions about how it works?

Where did I lash out at anyone?


In no way did I appoint myself spokesperson, but rather I posted an observation and commentary about Hyde and some posters on this website. I'm not in a postion to answer many of these questions, so therefore they need to be addressed elsewhere. I'm not going to spend my time doing your legwork for you. If you want to know, ask someone at Hyde School.  Your initial response to my post is as follows:
 Why is it that anyone that has any criticism about Hyde is automatically labeled as "misguided" or "angry" or "disgruntled" or "not working their program" or "immature" or "haven't looked at their own issues" or "disturbed" or......well, you see what I'm getting at.

Do you people ever answer for your own behavior? I also notice that you guys go after the easy targets here. Kids (or grown adults now) are angry. They've got a right to be. Some lash out and get a little outrageous here, I've got no problem with it....I get it. But there are also people here who are asking relevant questions and y'all ignore those and always seem to find the time to address the angry posts. What about answering some of the salient questions and concerns that have been posted?

Sounds like a lash to me. I can understand why people would ask you to go away. You probably get comments like that wherever you slither. I'd prefer not to address you anymore, as you're pretty much a waste of time and energy. Thanks for understanding.
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Offline Anne Bonney

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Re: Hyde School is doing a lot of things right.
« Reply #16 on: August 23, 2006, 02:43:44 PM »
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In no way did I appoint myself spokesperson, but rather I posted an observation and commentary about Hyde and some posters on this website.

Ok, you didn't officially say you were a spokesperson but you sure came on here implying you had a good deal of knowledge about Hyde and I was asking you about it.  


 
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I'm not in a postion to answer many of these questions, so therefore they need to be addressed elsewhere. I'm not going to spend my time doing your legwork for you. If you want to know, ask someone at Hyde School.

You are in a position to answer questions about your understanding of how Hyde works.  Your impressions and why you feel that way aren't you?  I'm not asking for Hyde's explanation, I've read what they have to say.  I'm asking you why you feel the way you do.


 
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Your initial response to my post is as follows:
 Why is it that anyone that has any criticism about Hyde is automatically labeled as "misguided" or "angry" or "disgruntled" or "not working their program" or "immature" or "haven't looked at their own issues" or "disturbed" or......well, you see what I'm getting at.

Do you people ever answer for your own behavior? I also notice that you guys go after the easy targets here. Kids (or grown adults now) are angry. They've got a right to be. Some lash out and get a little outrageous here, I've got no problem with it....I get it. But there are also people here who are asking relevant questions and y'all ignore those and always seem to find the time to address the angry posts. What about answering some of the salient questions and concerns that have been posted?

Sounds like a lash to me. I can understand why people would ask you to go away. You probably get comments like that wherever you slither. I'd prefer not to address you anymore, as you're pretty much a waste of time and energy. Thanks for understanding.


I don't think that was an attack.  Lashing out in frustration, maybe.  It seems that any time anyone has a criticism of Hyde they automatically dismissed as being one of those things I mentioned above.  Aside from the tone the point is valid.  You just will not engage in any discussion about your beliefs or what you've posted here.  I haven't called anyone names, that I recall, although I have been known to do that too sometimes.



Here's a peace offering.   Let's start over.  Let's be civil and adult and discuss the issues.  I apologize for my frustrated and arrogant tone.  I seriously would like to know more about this place.  From everything I've read, including the supportive things, about Joe Gauld it reminds me of Miller Newton and that interests me very much.  I've seen and researched a lot of these places and I haven't come up against one that reminds me of him in quite the way that Gauld does.  If I'm wrong I promise, I'll admit it but the things I've seen so far disturb me greatly.  Since you seem to have so much faith in him I would honestly like to hear why.  Even if I don't agree with you it might give both of us a better understanding of the others point of view.  Deal? ::dove::
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Re: Hyde School is doing a lot of things right.
« Reply #17 on: August 29, 2006, 12:29:46 PM »
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Alas Bonney, I'm afraid it may be too late for you. If you wish knowledge, seek it at the source, don't ask others to do what you can do better yourself. As for attacks, my comments were not intended as such, but it seems you do have a way of inviting them with the way you lash out at visitors to this site.


You seem to have appointed yourself spokesperson, so I was asking.  What, can't answer the question?  If you've got so much faith in Hyde and what they do for kids, what's the problem with asking some questions about how it works?

Where did I lash out at anyone?

In no way did I appoint myself spokesperson, but rather I posted an observation and commentary about Hyde and some posters on this website. I'm not in a postion to answer many of these questions, so therefore they need to be addressed elsewhere. I'm not going to spend my time doing your legwork for you. If you want to know, ask someone at Hyde School.  Your initial response to my post is as follows:
 Why is it that anyone that has any criticism about Hyde is automatically labeled as "misguided" or "angry" or "disgruntled" or "not working their program" or "immature" or "haven't looked at their own issues" or "disturbed" or......well, you see what I'm getting at.

Do you people ever answer for your own behavior? I also notice that you guys go after the easy targets here. Kids (or grown adults now) are angry. They've got a right to be. Some lash out and get a little outrageous here, I've got no problem with it....I get it. But there are also people here who are asking relevant questions and y'all ignore those and always seem to find the time to address the angry posts. What about answering some of the salient questions and concerns that have been posted?

Sounds like a lash to me. I can understand why people would ask you to go away. You probably get comments like that wherever you slither. I'd prefer not to address you anymore, as you're pretty much a waste of time and energy. Thanks for understanding.


Why is do you say "you people" like everyone who supports Hyde is lumped together with one way of thinking? You insult us, but then want to know things from us.
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« Reply #18 on: August 29, 2006, 12:32:09 PM »
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Why is do you say "you people" like everyone who supports Hyde is lumped together with one way of thinking? You insult us, but then want to know things from us.


You mean the same way that you lumped all "anti-programmies" together?


Are you going to answer any of the questions or just dodge and perry?
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« Reply #19 on: August 29, 2006, 01:00:38 PM »
That's parry. Perry was the guy who posted elsewhere that he was willing to have a vigorous debate with you, buth then you drove him off...
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« Reply #20 on: August 29, 2006, 01:02:59 PM »
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That's parry. Perry was the guy who posted elsewhere that he was willing to have a vigorous debate with you, buth then you drove him off...


By asking him pointed and direct questions?  Wow.   I don't know about Hyde other than what I've read on their site, here and a few other places.  That's why I'm asking.  Why is that so hard to understand?
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« Reply #21 on: August 29, 2006, 01:11:03 PM »
So then maybe if you said " I am interested in learning more about this sometimes-controversial place called Hyde School. Can someone please tell me more about XXX", rather than insulting people and pre-loading the gun with anger, ready to shoot back at whoever is foolish enough to respond to you in this forum? Who would waste their time (other than me) to subject themself to the abuse?
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« Reply #22 on: August 29, 2006, 01:23:13 PM »
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So then maybe if you said " I am interested in learning more about this sometimes-controversial place called Hyde School. Can someone please tell me more about XXX", rather than insulting people and pre-loading the gun with anger, ready to shoot back at whoever is foolish enough to respond to you in this forum? Who would waste their time (other than me) to subject themself to the abuse?


How the hell have i abused anyone?  Yes, I have some opinions about Hyde based on what I've read so far.  So what?  That means I can't ask for more info?  Especially from the people that went and taught there?  Instead of questioning my motives for wanting to know (does it really matter what my motives are?) why not just address the issues?
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« Reply #23 on: August 29, 2006, 01:52:24 PM »
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So then maybe if you said " I am interested in learning more about this sometimes-controversial place called Hyde School. Can someone please tell me more about XXX", rather than insulting people and pre-loading the gun with anger, ready to shoot back at whoever is foolish enough to respond to you in this forum? Who would waste their time (other than me) to subject themself to the abuse?

How the hell have i abused anyone?  Yes, I have some opinions about Hyde based on what I've read so far.  So what?  That means I can't ask for more info?  Especially from the people that went and taught there?  Instead of questioning my motives for wanting to know (does it really matter what my motives are?) why not just address the issues?


Seems to me you first have some anger to work through Bonney, before anyone will be willing play (or "debate") with you.
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« Reply #24 on: August 29, 2006, 01:59:35 PM »
How typically program of you to say that.  Anyone who won't play the way you want just isn't worth talking to.  

I'm arrogant.  You're arrogant.  So what?  Can we talk about the issues now?  I've held out the olive branch before and I'm always told that I have to ask a certain way or the right questions.  What's the point if I can't speak my mind and ask you direct questions about your experience in Hyde?
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« Reply #25 on: August 29, 2006, 02:07:49 PM »
Hyde teaches us to speak out and to confront.  Only problem is, Hyde doesn't want you to speak out or confront THEM!!
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« Reply #26 on: August 31, 2006, 09:27:30 AM »
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Hyde teaches us to speak out and to confront.  Only problem is, Hyde doesn't want you to speak out or confront THEM!!

Such courage of you to lob hand grenades at Hyde from the anonymity of this site! If you truly believe Hyde is so dangerous and destructive, why not confront them directly, and with some facts.
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« Reply #27 on: August 31, 2006, 09:58:17 AM »
No need to confront.  Hyde doesn't care. Have tried to talk to them and sent letters. They don't want to hear it.
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« Reply #28 on: September 07, 2006, 08:50:14 AM »
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No need to confront.  Hyde doesn't care. Have tried to talk to them and sent letters. They don't want to hear it.

How do you know they don't listen to what you say? My experience has been that rational, constructive, meaningful observation or criticism is considered and can contribute to changes, but sometimes slowly over time. I could take the position that a letter to George Bush against the Iraq war will be ignored, but if enough of them come, it may affect policy over time. If something is important enough, don't just give up and resign yourself to accepting it, or you'll ensure things will not change.
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« Reply #29 on: September 07, 2006, 10:15:39 AM »
Why is it that being disgruntled is seen as a bad thing in and of itself. If i buy a product which is faulty I then feel disgruntled. This is not unreasonable. If someone feels their education at a private school which they paid money to attend is inadequate then why should being disgruntled about this be dismissed?
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