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Offline Oz girl

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« on: July 09, 2006, 06:07:00 AM »
While researching this industry I have noticed a couple of places like these:

http://www.2collegebound.com/

http://www.pillarsofhope.com/

What are they all about? They seem to market toward kids who have already been to behavoiural mod schools and are college age. Has anyone been? do they employ the same techniques?
I know pillars of hope is WWASP owned but the other one is owned by people called the family solutions network. These people have another school called turning winds which has one of those box ticking assesments to define how unruly your kid is.
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« Reply #1 on: July 09, 2006, 06:39:00 AM »
They are both more or less the same thing.
IIRC Pillars of hope used to be Dundee Ranch. The big difference is that people are kept in them with Blackmail rather than the full force of law (what else do you call an "Exit plan")
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« Reply #2 on: July 09, 2006, 01:02:00 PM »
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"While researching this industry I have noticed a couple of places like these:



http://www.2collegebound.com/



http://www.pillarsofhope.com/



What are they all about? They seem to market toward kids who have already been to behavoiural mod schools and are college age. Has anyone been? do they employ the same techniques?

I know pillars of hope is WWASP owned but the other one is owned by people called the family solutions network. These people have another school called turning winds which has one of those box ticking assesments to define how unruly your kid is."


Family Solutions .... has anyone looked into this more closely?

http://www.fsni.org/

Are they part of the family solutions 180?

Who are the owners?  

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« Reply #3 on: July 09, 2006, 07:41:00 PM »
Is your analysis of the programme based on heresay or personal accounts?


neither. I have not made one. i am looking for any first hand information to find out what these places are all about
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« Reply #4 on: July 09, 2006, 08:13:00 PM »
that last previous poster is me. Sorry forgot to log in
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« Reply #5 on: July 09, 2006, 10:25:00 PM »
Pls Help - I think he was taking a jab at Ardvark. But Arddie is right - about Pillars of Hope anyway.

It was Dundee Ranch Academy, until Costa Rica told the "students" what their rights under Costa Rican law were; and subsequently jailed Narvin for breaking those laws with respect to the treatment of the "students" at Dundee Ranch Academy. He has recently been indicted on those charges, and is awaiting a trial.

And so, it appears he reopened under the new name Pillars of Hope, and claims he is "serving" young adults who want to be there.

It doesn't take a U-jean to figure out these kids are largely going to be those who opt to remain in the Program, rather than subject themselves to the total abandonment of the "Exit Plan".

Seems it is operating some what as Bell Academy did, prior to CA demanding they get right with the state or close up. They chose to close up. Maybe soon, Pillars of Hope will face a similar option, and will make the same choice.

One things for sure - the interest Costa Rica took when it did, prevented Narvin / WWASPS from opening another High Impact. They about had it ready when the G-men showed up, and said no way Jose' - not in Our country.
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« Reply #6 on: July 10, 2006, 01:16:00 AM »
I knew it was on the same site as an ex WWASP school. So is it like the first few years @ uni? what educational benefits does it profess to offer kids?
Was bell closed down for abuse or lack of educational credentials?
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« Reply #7 on: July 10, 2006, 05:01:00 AM »
the family solutions network had a link to the following site
http://www.helpfortroubledteens411.com

Anyone know who owns these guys. Or do this family solutions network own it?
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« Reply #8 on: July 10, 2006, 09:11:00 AM »
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"Was bell closed down for abuse or lack of educational credentials?"


http://www.fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.ph ... 37&forum=9
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« Reply #9 on: July 10, 2006, 10:33:00 AM »
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"the family solutions network had a link to the following site

http://www.helpfortroubledteens411.com



Anyone know who owns these guys. Or do this family solutions network own it?"


The domain is registered to:

John Baisden Jr.
John Baisden
P.O. Box 3454
Coeur-d''''A Lane, ID 83816
US


http://whois.com/WhoisLookup.aspx?dnl=h ... ens411.com
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« Reply #10 on: July 10, 2006, 10:35:00 AM »
TURNING WINDS ADDS TWO NEW STAFF
(January 19, 2005) John Baisden, Jr., Chief Administrator of Turning Winds, Hayden, ID, 800-845-1380, http://www.fsni.org, announced that Turning Winds recently hired two new staff members; Daniel Rial, PhD, and Wanda Volz, RN. Rial, a Licensed Clinical Psychologist was appointed as the new Clinical Director, while Volz stepped in as a full-time, on-staff Registered Nurse.

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« Reply #11 on: July 10, 2006, 10:06:00 PM »
What's Baiden's history in the troubled teen industry?  This name sounds extremely familiar.
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« Reply #12 on: April 23, 2007, 07:50:46 AM »
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« Reply #13 on: April 23, 2007, 05:04:14 PM »
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What's Baiden's history in the troubled teen industry?  This name sounds extremely familiar.



It seems he's somethow connected to Lon Woodbury and Struggling Teens, there is an article about some sort of lawsuit but I can't access it right now, but for now, here's a whos who

http://www.strugglingteens.com/archives ... 05snh.html

http://www.heal-online.org/news.htm

HTH
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« Reply #14 on: April 23, 2007, 06:09:42 PM »
:oops: Just noticed the OP said it was connected to ST - sorry bout that - heh
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