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« Reply #150 on: June 22, 2006, 02:40:00 PM »
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On 2006-06-22 11:38:00, Dysfunction Junction wrote:

"Robert Friedman, Ph.D.



Professor/Chair



Department of Child & Family



Studies



Louis de la Parte Florida Mental



Health Institute



University of South Florida



Tampa, FL



Director, The Research and Training Center for Children's Mental Health



Ooops!  Another lie.  The director (in case you don't know what that means, it means the guy who sets the policy) of the organization you claimed to have called and they told you they "refused to sign" actually did sign and you obviously lied about speaking to them.  So, so sloppy.  So many lies to keep track of.



I gave you the list, you didn't read it, and then made up some statements and attributed them to people who are on the list. :lol:
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Squirm, squirm
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« Reply #151 on: June 22, 2006, 02:44:00 PM »
Lie, lie. :lol:

Read the list again.  See Dr. Friedman on it.  See Dr. Friedman is the Director of The Research and Training Center for Children's Mental Health, the organization that started ASTART at USF.

You're shot, brother.  Completely shot.
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« Reply #152 on: June 22, 2006, 02:52:00 PM »
Still no answer, huh Who?

I'm off to Miami.  Someone hold his feet to the fire about this employment issue.  I think it will ultimately prove to be important.
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« Reply #153 on: June 22, 2006, 02:58:00 PM »
Ha,Ha Let me explain,  people may be part of or head of an organization or many organizations.  That person may sign the petition as a representative of his organization or just to represent himself.  If he can not get buy in from everyone in the organization (or voting members) he cant sign for them, he can only sign for himself.  That is why the ones I listed are not on the signature list.  
You cant add the AMA because one of their directors signed the petition, you can only list his name which is what ?A-Start? did.

That?s why  ?The Research and Training Center for Children's Mental Health? is not on the list.

We need to go by the signature list, DJ, not your opinions.

Dam, DJ, smarten up.
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« Reply #154 on: June 22, 2006, 03:01:00 PM »
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"Still no answer, huh Who?



I'm off to Miami.  Someone hold his feet to the fire about this employment issue.  I think it will ultimately prove to be important."


I'll wait till you get back, its not that important I think you may be disappointed
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« Reply #155 on: June 22, 2006, 03:27:00 PM »
OK, here we go...one more time for the slow among us...

"The Research and Training Center for Children's Mental Health at USF's Louis de la Parte Florida Mental Health Institute was initiated in 1984 to address the need for improved services and outcomes for children with serious emotional/behavioral disabilities and their families."

The Research and Training Center for Children's Mental Health is part of the University of South Florida's Louis de la Parte Florida Mental Health Institute, a division of the Department of Child and Family Studies of the University of South Florida.  With me so far?

"The Alliance for the Safe, Therapeutic and Appropriate use of Residential Treatment (A START) is co-sponsored by the Department of Child and Family Studies of the University of South Florida and the Bazelon Center for Mental Health Law. The Alliance now includes leaders in psychology, psychiatry, nursing, mental health law, policy and family advocacy, as well as individuals with direct program experience as director, evaluator, parent or participant in such programs."

Here's the hierarchy:

USF

Department of Child and Family Studies of the University of South Florida.

Louis de la Parte Florida Mental Health Institute

The Research and Training Center for Children's Mental Health

ASTART

The Research and Training Center for Children's Mental Health and ASTART are part of the same organization.  Both are subsystems of Department of Child and Family Studies of the University of South Florida and the Louis de la Parte Florida Mental Health Institute.  They are the same entity.

Geez, Who, are you really this brain-dead?  Not to mention, all of this is just a side-show so that you could avoid your spurious claim that the mainstream thinking in mental health care promotes programs.

Who, y0u need to put a tent over yourself.  You're a one-man circus.  Or maybe just a clown.

Either way, you've not a shred of credibility or honesty and are a self-revealed pathological prevaricator.




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« Reply #156 on: June 22, 2006, 04:02:00 PM »
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The Research and Training Center for Children's Mental Health and ASTART are part of the same organization. Both are subsystems of Department of Child and Family Studies of the University of South Florida and the Louis de la Parte Florida Mental Health Institute.


DJ,  I will make it as simple as possible.  Yes they may be subsystems of each other and related and even run by the same guy.  But the one guy who runs it signed for himself, not for that particular group or groups.  For example, If Bill Gates was signing a petition to end abortion he couldn?t ethically list Microsoft as a supporter, he would have to sign his own name.  If it was for a cause that he got buyin from all of his board of directors for say a national software policy then yes he could list his company (but not his sub companies if they disagreed).
So you really need to be careful how you connect things.  That?s why some organizations signed up and others had their director sign for themselves.

Not a big deal, the letter is something I may sign myself, its good for the kids, although I don?t agree with all the wording, I would want to change a few things.
But you did a good job digging it up, I have a copy in my archives.
Thanks
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« Reply #157 on: June 22, 2006, 07:15:00 PM »
Who, I think you have been invited to STFU.
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« Reply #158 on: June 22, 2006, 07:36:00 PM »
You got to admit this was fun watching. I find it pretty hilarious that on one side you have an ex mental health professional getting his panties in a twist over something someone says that differs from his opinion. I've seen him do it time and time again to anyone that dares go up against the self proclaimed guru of Fornits. First come the insults, then the outdated research, more insults, more links to sites that support his views, more insults, it just goes on and on. Now this sounds like a guy I'd rather not have anything to do with working with kids. Just imagine the damage he could inflict on some poor kid that happens to disagree with him. Of course he won't even look within when he sees this post and I can predict his response. The Who on the other hand has been equally amusing but I'll give him an attaboy for not giving up. Nobody should have to be subjected to the bullshit he has from a so called professional. ::bigsmilebounce::
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« Reply #159 on: June 22, 2006, 08:34:00 PM »
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I'll wait till you get back, its not that important I think you may be disappointed"


I'm here.  I've got time.  My clients don't arrive until tomorrow.  So Who, what is your connection to these facilities (other than your daughter)?
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« Reply #160 on: June 22, 2006, 08:49:00 PM »
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I'll wait till you get back, its not that important I think you may be disappointed"




I'm here.  I've got time.  My clients don't arrive until tomorrow.  So Who, what is your connection to these facilities (other than your daughter)?"
I dont have any connections at this time, nor in the past.
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« Reply #161 on: June 22, 2006, 08:50:00 PM »
If it is really important to you I will write it up and post it.  It will take a few minutes.
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« Reply #162 on: June 22, 2006, 08:51:00 PM »
To ANY behavior mod/TBS/RTC or whatever other pretty wrapper gets slapped on it?

What do you do for a living??????????????????  Why is that such a difficult question for you?
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« Reply #163 on: June 22, 2006, 08:56:00 PM »
I build businesses
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« Reply #164 on: June 22, 2006, 08:59:00 PM »
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"I build businesses"


Why was that so hard?

What kind of business?  Why ARE you so obsessed with Fornits?  Damn, you're on here more than most survivors of these shitholes, what gives?
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