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« Reply #15 on: June 21, 2006, 10:05:00 AM »
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"Where does it say she found pot in his pants? Oh, wait. IT doesn't."


Yeah it does.  I read it on ST.  You must NOT have read it.

Go back and try again.
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« Reply #16 on: June 21, 2006, 10:07:00 AM »
Post it.
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« Reply #17 on: June 21, 2006, 10:08:00 AM »
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Lesley- didn't you have a home contract before he came home? The expected chores and the consequences should have been spelled out. Is he using your car? If so, this privilege should be taken away until he does the chores. You have a right to impose a curfew, too. Are you drug testing him? It sounds to me like he is walking all over you, which can only happen if you allow it.  


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Another parenting gem from Karen, the ulta-controlling uber-parent...."




Please tell me what she should have said.  This seems reasonable to me.  Actions-consequences- what's so bad about that?"


He's OVER 18.  Leave the poor kid alone already.  It's clear based on his behavior that the program didn't work, the parenting didn't work and the kid likes to smoke dope.  Clearly, smoking dope has the greatest appeal for him.  More than Leslie and more than the program.  When will the controlling end, when he's 28?  38? 48?  WHEN?

It's the control freak PARENTS that are the problem here.
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« Reply #18 on: June 21, 2006, 10:18:00 AM »
Then he can't live there.  Fine.  Smoke all the dope he wants in his own apt!
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« Reply #19 on: June 21, 2006, 10:20:00 AM »
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On 2006-06-21 07:07:00, Anonymous wrote:

"Post it."

OK, functionally illiterate, arrogant asswipe.  Just for you...

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Thanks everyone, for all your replies and suggestions. Regarding Fornits, I just look at it now, and won't respond again. My son should leave on Monday and all of you are right, enjoy him while he is here. There isn't any contract, since he is only here for one week, and he is 18, so I can not force him to do things. Jeannette, I wrote down the name of the book you are reading and the other online group, and will consider going to an Al Anon meeting. Mose, thanks, yes, easier said than done, keeping my cool with him. I found some pot in his pants,[/i] so that didn't make me feel very good. I will write to the grandparents, since my son will be living with them, they should know how he is doing now. However where he will be going to in Oregon, he won't have any of the friends he does here, so I think that will make a big difference, hopefully.

Again, thank you all! Take care, and Happy Father's Day to all of the Fathers today!

Leslie  

What part of "I found some pot in his pants,[/i]" don't you understand???

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"I am disappointed in what I see with my son. He seems to be the same old kid."


Well, Leslie (and other programmies), what the fuck did you expect to get back?   A NEW KID?

You deserve exactly what you got for robbing your kid of his birthright, his FREEDOM (of choice, self-determination, speech and everything else that goes with it). Why should you get a reprieve from an "acting out" kid when all you did to address it was force him into a situation to be broken and tamed?  You're lucky he didn't do something DRASTIC to YOU!
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« Reply #20 on: June 21, 2006, 10:22:00 AM »
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"Then he can't live there.  Fine.  Smoke all the dope he wants in his own apt!"


This is EXACTLY WHAT HE WANTS.  He told Leslie by words and actions that he never wants to be under her thumb again, so he IS leaving.  Don't you EVER read BEFORE you post?  SHOOT FIRST and ask questions LATER?  Par for the course with you dummies.
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« Reply #21 on: June 21, 2006, 10:32:00 AM »
It's easy- don't go to Mom's with dope in your pants.  If you can't or won't do that, don't visit.  Leslie will have to learn to tolerate it or not see him.  Time for him to pull up his socks and get on his bike.  I think we all agree- but some of you here probably think playing by her rules (if she could possibly enforce them) is not something he should be required to do.
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« Reply #22 on: June 21, 2006, 10:46:00 AM »
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 He told Leslie by words and actions that he never wants to be under her thumb again, so he IS leaving.  


Are you saying it's not normal for a kid of that age to feel that way?  That's what is supposed to happen.  That's normal.  Did you ever stop to think that maybe he needs this time and process of breaking the apron strings?  There's a reason why chicks leave the nest.  We're supposed to be preparing these kids to go out and be on their own.  Trying to control them after they've become an adult (at least chronicologically) doesn't do a damn bit of good.  They need to get out there and see the big bad world and how it works.  They're gonna fall.  They're gonna get smacked around by life a bit.  That's OK.  That's part of the normal process of learning.

This is exactly what I'm talking about with people seeing adolescence as something that needs to be tightly restricted and regulated and controlled by the parents.  Teens have been going nuts and doing stupid, dangerous things since the beginning of time.  Believe it or not folks, it's all part of the process of growing up.  Fucking with that process only delays and exacerbates it.
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« Reply #23 on: June 21, 2006, 11:42:00 AM »
The idiotic parents, the 'turkeys' if you will, are the source of all of this. They are the consumers, the ones with the influence, power, decision making, and the checkbooks, but the kids the 'accountable' one  :flame: ) those kids in those programs are having their will crushed moreso than the current joint-in-a-lock if theyre not being driven to suicide or slowly killed outright.

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Exactly, thats what makes their position so weak and exposed. If I walked into any conversation and I heard that kids where attending schools for over 30 years and not one child has ever benefited, yet the industry is expanding and flourishing I would have to think it was some type of group/cult type of reasoning. I find it amazing, I think that is one reason I stay is to figure out why someone would support such a position or stay with the group speak for so long.

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« Reply #24 on: June 22, 2006, 01:48:00 AM »
Maybe if someone with money was willing to do it they could put ads in the same magazines that place ads in rich folks magazines.  Sunset magazine would be a good start; they used to carry two or three pages of ads for TBS like CEDU etc.  If they refuse to carry contra-ads we could deluge them with protest mail.  

Might be a good place to start.
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« Reply #25 on: June 22, 2006, 03:25:00 PM »
Im a 21 yo college student. Most people here are low and middle class like the rest of the country.

Thats my point - we have to get some celebrity or congressman or talkshow host or whowever to care about OUR suffering children and teenagers at least as much as those overseas. We have lil abu ghraibs and gitmos all over the USA for our own kids but all the attention is given to one place (respective to each hellhole...) housing FOREIGN ADULTS in Iraq and Cuba, respectively.

Now, I dont know about your opinion on those places, but personally I think that if its good enough for our kids those GROWN UPS should shut up and stop whining, but if its too horrible to do to an adult then why the HELL are we doing it to our own kids?

But, anyway, venting isn't getting anywhere. We're going to have to strategize and dramatify it and somehow give people a reason to care about it - apathy is the worst enemy of the USA right now and its terribly hard to defeat. Most people just dont give a damn, and while thats wrong, if you tell them how bad it is on philosophical, religious, rational, or humanist grounds, they're gonna repeat how much they dont care.

Now, clearly, you CAN make people care about damn near anything if you present it correctly - white trash and other religious numbskulls care more about gay people theyll never meet getting married more than all the REAL problems facing this nation, so I guess it comes down to a media campaign, or the right female celebrity crying about it, or the right crazy person yelling about it.

Well, whatever. The most I could hope to do is get on the daily show or colber report where people will listen and the host doesnt interrupt me (except in good humor...) unlike other cable news and hopefully leave a good impression on them.

But, well, thats not likely, theyve gained more credibility tham the "big three" and have the likes of Michael Brown swinging through... who'd have time for me?  :rofl:
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« Reply #26 on: June 22, 2006, 05:26:00 PM »
Well, I see you have been talking about me again.  All is fine and my son is off to a different state.  He had a great visit with me, and especially with some good friends. No major problems while he is at home.  Someone said above about controlling him and rules and such, but no, I can't do that now, as he is 18.  He will be fine, I am sure that he will make some bad choices, and hopefully learn from it, I do the same.  So, no need to talk about me anymore, ok?!!
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« Reply #27 on: June 22, 2006, 05:28:00 PM »
Shut up shuttin' up.  :flame:
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« Reply #28 on: June 22, 2006, 05:41:00 PM »
Why do you say that to me? :question:
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« Reply #29 on: June 22, 2006, 05:43:00 PM »
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On 2006-06-22 14:26:00, Anonymous wrote:

"Well, I see you have been talking about me again.  All is fine and my son is off to a different state.  He had a great visit with me, and especially with some good friends. No major problems while he is at home.  Someone said above about controlling him and rules and such, but no, I can't do that now, as he is 18.  He will be fine, I am sure that he will make some bad choices, and hopefully learn from it, I do the same.  So, no need to talk about me anymore, ok?!!"

Why did you give advice to Leslie on ST about how to control her over-18 son then, Karen?  You are a control freak and you will continue to try to control everyone and everything around you.

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So, no need to talk about me anymore, ok?!!


You don't control the dialogue here.  If you don't like reading about yourself, don't read.
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