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Testimonials of rape and abuse, explanation of the massive price, massive hatred from ex-victims and an entirely different sort of hatred from the programmies..

I can't imagine this creating anything other than a "grab your kids and RUN" instinctive response.
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« Reply #1 on: June 03, 2006, 02:18:00 PM »
Depends on what you consider "abuse" I suppose..
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« Reply #2 on: June 04, 2006, 01:59:00 PM »
I believe some of the parents will realize what irresponasable parents did to their children,and see it didn't help.
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« Reply #3 on: June 04, 2006, 02:12:00 PM »
Yes, they will realize what they did one day. Probably not until after they have died, or on their death bed and about to meet God. When they have to 'live' the lives around them in their everyday life review and see what a negative experience their life brought to those around them, they will finally realize their mistake. Ask yourself this, does my existence make this world a better place? Did I leave this place better than I found it? A lot of dysfunctional program parents are in for a rude awakening, for the journey has only just begun. You cannot hope to forget about your wrongs because you never truly die!
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« Reply #4 on: June 04, 2006, 02:22:00 PM »
unfortunately the rampant asshattery, foul language, screaming stupidity and blatant dishonesty of some posters rather undermine the credibility of the site and substantially limit It's effectiveness.

Redemption: Deliverance of sinners from the penalty of their sins through the murder of their deity against whom they sinned.
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« Reply #5 on: June 04, 2006, 03:10:00 PM »
I've read many good quotes on this forum, this is one that comes to mind is quit cussin the farmer w/ your mouth full.
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« Reply #6 on: June 04, 2006, 04:49:00 PM »
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On 2006-06-04 11:22:00, MightyAardvark wrote:

unfortunately the rampant asshattery, foul language, screaming stupidity and blatant dishonesty of some posters rather undermine the credibility of the site and substantially limit It's effectiveness.

Shut up and quit whining about it, jackass. :wave:
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« Reply #7 on: June 04, 2006, 05:10:00 PM »
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On 2006-06-04 11:22:00, MightyAardvark wrote:

"unfortunately the rampant asshattery, foul language, screaming stupidity and blatant dishonesty of some posters rather undermine the credibility of the site and substantially limit It's effectiveness.

Redemption: Deliverance of sinners from the penalty of their sins through the murder of their deity against whom they sinned.
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Actually, I think Fornits does just fine, with or without the flame wars and seriously demented trolls who drop in from time to time.

Maybe if you stop thinking of Fornits as the great white hope that's gonna kill the big, bad evil troubled teen industry, you will get it?

How many times does Ginger have to say it?  As long as there are PARENTS there will always be a troubled teen industry.  

Why?  

Because this is a societal issue - and deeply rooted in America's long obession with children as imperfect little adults.

It's called Blame the kid so the Parent gets a free pass on their lousy parenting skills, and program owners and their sleezy network of referral agents get to laugh all the way to the bank.

Now until you can think of a better way to give lousy white, mostly middle-to-upper-class parents a free pass on failing Parenting 101, you best get used to the troubled teen industry being around for a very very long time.  So far, we're going on more than 40 years.

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« Reply #8 on: June 04, 2006, 07:28:00 PM »
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Actually, I think Fornits does just fine, with or without the flame wars and seriously demented trolls who drop in from time to time.

Maybe if you stop thinking of Fornits as the great white hope that's gonna kill the big, bad evil troubled teen industry, you will get it?

How many times does Ginger have to say it? As long as there are PARENTS there will always be a troubled teen industry.
I think more accurately would be as long as there are TEENS there will be a trouble teen industry, but I guess without parents there would not be teens, so we can argue that they both apply.


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Why?  Because this is a societal issue - and deeply rooted in America's long obession with children as imperfect little adults.

It's called Blame the kid so the Parent gets a free pass on their lousy parenting skills, and program owners and their sleezy network of referral agents get to laugh all the way to the bank.
I believe most parents feel it is a family issue not just the problem of one of their children?s and , although, parents always feel responsible for how their kids turn out they realize that the problem is not due to their parenting style.  Most kids that go to TBS?s come from families with multiple kids and the other kids in the family are flourishing and doing fine.  The parents with only one child probably feel guilty and think it is their own fault, which is too bad
I don?t think there have been any studies (I am not aware of any) to determine cause and effect on this subject, but based on the fact that it cannot be isolated to a single type of family, economic level or parenting style the probability that the parents are the cause, for the most part, is remote.


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Now until you can think of a better way to give lousy white, mostly middle-to-upper-class parents a free pass on failing Parenting 101, you best get used to the troubled teen industry being around for a very very long time. So far, we're going on more than 40 years.


The industry has come a long way.  If you listen to and read about the stories of the kids who went to straight in the 70?s and compare them to the TBS?s that are available to kids now we can see that the industry has come a long way (i.e. fences are coming down, families are more involved, the education element is improving and more kids are being helped thru qualified therapists).  It continues to grow and change to better serve the kids and with sites like fornits the schools short comings will continue to be exposed which will result in the schools to continue to evolve and improve.  The schools that fail to step up to the challenges and pressure will ultimately shut down.
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« Reply #9 on: June 04, 2006, 08:17:00 PM »
The who your post contains so many absurdities I don't even know where to begin. It's obvious you have never had to live through one of these facilities, it must be nice to be as ignorant as you.
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« Reply #10 on: June 04, 2006, 08:24:00 PM »
Actually, there is considerable proof to show that most kids end up in these places not because they are deficient kids, but because their parents are obsessed with controlling their child's attitude and behavior.

There are a lot of sick, obsessive parents out there ... and believe me ... the troubled teen industry thrives on them.
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« Reply #11 on: June 04, 2006, 08:26:00 PM »
Fuck off and die. As if there could be any question that sending your kid(s) off to some pseudo-therapeutic greed-based mind control cult is any kind of solution to anything!!! You all should have been abortions yourselves and have no business being responisible for the life of another human being....
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« Reply #12 on: June 04, 2006, 09:40:00 PM »
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Actually, there is considerable proof to show that most kids end up in these places not because they are deficient kids, but because their parents are obsessed with controlling their child's attitude and behavior.
I would be interested in reading some of these studies/reports as I have been lead to believe just the opposite based on my experiences.


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There are a lot of sick, obsessive parents out there ... and believe me ... the troubled teen industry thrives on them.


Yes, you are right, there are all kinds, from all walks of life and people are always ready to take advantage of them and their money.
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« Reply #13 on: June 04, 2006, 09:49:00 PM »
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On 2006-06-04 17:26:00, Anonymous wrote:

"Fuck off and die. As if there could be any question that sending your kid(s) off to some pseudo-therapeutic greed-based mind control cult is any kind of solution to anything!!! You all should have been abortions yourselves and have no business being responisible for the life of another human being...."


I am not sure what schools you are referring to specifically but I would never send any of my kids to a place as you describe, cultism, mind control stuff, most of that went out in the 70?s and if those schools do exist they need to change or get out of the business.  The more forward thinking schools are focused on teaching the kids to be more independent and responsible for their own lives (not conforming to a standard norm), sounds like you had a bad experience.
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« Reply #14 on: June 04, 2006, 11:44:00 PM »
Which schools in particular would you say are some of the more forward thinking schools?
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