Hey Frod, I don't mean no disrespect to any of those cats. I know they're all real good or great or whatever. I'm just sayin' that what I've heard from them, which I admit aint even the majority of their stuff, just don't get it like CTI, and really, there's a lot of 'great' jazz that I aint into. I seen and heard some truly great music on that Ken Burns Documentary about Jazz. Man, that was killer, including some bad-ass Mingus and Thelonius Monk footage. Maybe your right, and I just aint heard the right stuff yet, but that CTI really jams. I dunno. Tough to be more smooth an' aggressive simultaneously like that.