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« Reply #60 on: May 30, 2006, 03:54:00 PM »
"Condemning anonymity while hiding behind it. Brilliant."

Thanks you. It's only because of the silly attacks I've read, and the comments like "if you believe that load..." etc etc.  If the naysayers would show some maturity and offer sustantiation to their attacks I'd be 1) interested, and 2) more than willing to NOT post annymously, since I'd feel I was dealing with people of morals and substance.

But the destructive criticism and "neener neener"-type statements are petty, empty and immature.  I haven't seen much substance.  In fact, I haven't seen ANY substance.
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« Reply #61 on: May 30, 2006, 08:19:00 PM »
While there may be a great deal of petty, angry, and immature writing here, I disagree that this forum is devoid of ANY substance. After all, I must at least defend my own posts.  :smile:
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« Reply #62 on: July 01, 2006, 05:22:00 AM »
Aspen Ranch was about 6 thousand dollars a month. We had three different therapist in four months.  Most of the interaction is with untrained folks who watch the kids in their cottages.  I brought my teen home.  I thought is seemed like punishment for her problems.  The day we came home she got back on cocaine.  We delt with it as a family problem and sought professionals in the community to help.  Make your choices on your gut feelings as a parent.  You know your own child.
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« Reply #63 on: July 01, 2006, 10:26:00 AM »
High turnover seems to be a problem.
I was noticing that ASR has had six directors in nine years.
Three different "substance abuse" programs.
From Juvenile Corrections to "Private-Pay Education".
Appears to be an ongoing experiment, at the kids expense.
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« Reply #64 on: July 26, 2006, 04:34:16 PM »
Directors seem to turn over about as often as school principals do nowadays - most of our local schools have a new admin staff every year or two, usually for geographical or family medical reasons.  Doesn't seem unusual at all.

We were at Parent Week a couple weeks ago - our daughter was MUCH better, a lot of her old-self coming back.  She was excitied that she was close to earning her saddle (certain horsemanship classes have to be completed before you get off barebak riding), has pretty much adopted her "own" horse, and is thriving.  The only negative things I can comment on are a lot of hazing of new kids - but again, this is usual stuff at any "boarding" school, whether for troubled teens or not - and the staff deals with it appropriately.

We had plenty of time to meet with and ask questions of staff, could wander around and check out anything just about any time, ate with the kids and staff (comments were "hey, you guys are getting the same stuff we get", which was pretty decent.  A lot of cafeteria-type food on a more nutritious scale, much recognizable Costco-branded stuff).  Pizza one day from a local (THE local...) pizza place, which the kids get once a week or so.

The recreation activities wee trmemndous - the guy in charge is in a wheelchair...but doesn't let that stop him.  He's enthusiastic, a super teacher, and uses problem-solving, not just "workout".stuff.  The other teachers were communicative, far more dialed-in than public school teachers, and clearly communicated progress. goals, and answered questions.

The dorms are really nice - like an upscale "camp" or sorority house.  Nice conditions, plenty of free time, and lots to do without undue controls.  Day-to-day supervisors were very nice, got along well with the girls and always had their eyes moving - always watching...and that's a good thing.

The worst part of the whole trip was the long drive to and from Salt Lake City Airport.  Even the local towns, Loa, Bicknell and Torrey were nice - and the scenery is stunning.  The ranch itself is both huge and beautiful - oh, and the ropes course is working fine, and has been for quite some time.

But the most important thing is our daughter is making a turnaround - talks in letters (and while we were there) about the good things she misses, things she wants to do again, and how she's happy she's there - she DOES want to go home, but she's smart and knows she needs time to "reorient" herself.  She smiles a lot now.  She laughs when we talk to her on the phone.  Those are things that had been missing for a long time.

If you think it might be appropriate for your son or daughter...if outdoors activity, working with animals as therapy, and a clean, country  environment are what you are looking for, we highly recommend checking Aspen Ranch out.  Call them, talk to several people on staff.  Get a feel for the place, and see if it's a good fit.  It is for our family, and it has likely saved our daughter's life.  PS, my wife is making a surprise birthday trip to visit - and staff has arranged for a "package" to be picked up by our daughter at the office - the "package" being mom, and then a small party, plus extra visiting time while she's there - and this isn't "parent week", just regular school time.  That really sounds like an awful, abusive place, huh?

If anyone has questions, post them and I will try to come back more often to answer.  YOU  ALWAYS have to make your own decisions, but one thing to remember is that complainers always are louder and more visible  than happy folks, because they have an agenda....take that into consideration as well.

Best of luck and good wishes to anyone in a similar situation.  I truly know how difficult it is.
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« Reply #65 on: July 26, 2006, 06:34:29 PM »
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« Reply #66 on: July 27, 2006, 12:35:42 AM »
Cute - but typical valueless negative crap.  I tell you a true story about MY daughter, who is a REAL person undergoing REAL problems...and is in a good place...

...and you can post a "bullshit" meter?  Let's hear YOUR story, asswipe.  I'll be happy to give you enough details to PROVE we were there...you won't.

Another loser proving the value of the "negative" posts here.  Thank you for making my and other people's points for us.


Sometimes it's SO damned easy flushing out the losers.  All it takes is telling the truth, and the people who kno nothing come running.

It's quite a giggle.  Except for the fact that someone's child COULD be getting help, and you're useless posts chip away at that possibility.
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« Reply #67 on: July 27, 2006, 01:08:36 PM »
Quote from: ""some liar""
I tell you a true story about MY daughter, who is a REAL person undergoing REAL problems


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« Reply #68 on: July 27, 2006, 03:09:12 PM »
Quote from: ""Milk Gargling Death Penal""
Quote from: ""some liar""
I tell you a true story about MY daughter, who is a REAL person undergoing REAL problems



i was thinking the exact SAME THING.
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I was just there!
« Reply #69 on: October 14, 2006, 11:33:38 PM »
I just recently left Aspen Ranch (during the July parent week), graduating as a Rider. I was there for over 16 months! The substance abuse counselor was my primary therapist! I had a lot of problems going there, personal as well as a fucked up family. I've now ben home for 3 months and am doing great. I haven't relapsed or really even considered it.

Aspen was a great place! We didn't get pizza from the local place once a week, but we did get it on parent week and for special occasions. The food wasn't great but it was certainly bearable (and I'm picky!). The staff was AWESOME (most anyways), they were very caring and devoted. There have been MANY changes in staff and rules in the past 6 months there as well, so check it out! Sure I had my rough times, everyone does! I would defenitely recommend it if you're kids having a rough time, but be sure to check it out before to see if you think your kid would be a good fit.

And to whoever posted about seeing kids doing pull-ups with a man with a radio....he was the personal trainer! I was in Personal Training for over a year there and it helped a lot! I've never heard a complaint about PT, kids can sign up for an extra fee through a past navy seal who really pushes you hard! And there's a LONG waiting list.

Thanks, and please no one tell me I'm lying....when I left I was 2nd in seniority out of everyone there at the time! And to those parents who have kids there now...I wouldn't doubt if I knew them! :exclaim:
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A little question
« Reply #70 on: October 29, 2006, 05:42:03 PM »
KJ - You have told that you were ordered there by court order.

Did you not meat someone that were tricked or abducted there by their parents without the drug reason?

Did you not someone where you asked yourself afterwards:

"Why is this normal or shy kid here?"

Just a question
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« Reply #71 on: October 29, 2006, 05:58:23 PM »
I call staffer or troll. IP check please?
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No troll here
« Reply #72 on: October 30, 2006, 02:47:43 AM »
Quote from: "Milk Gargling Death Penal"
I call staffer or troll. IP check please?


I do not think that KJ is a troll. I do believe in his story about him being sent there by court order.

If I were a Judge I would order the removal of all the children from his home and intensive family therapy for the entire family.

We do have some special isolated "homes" where family in crisis have to live in, if the children is at danger and that was obvious KJ's story.

I agree that programs are needed, but the use of them should only be when a court or another athority has evaluated the child. Not a single parent should be allowed to ship their own child away without approval. If they tried to, its jail-time. The child is the parents responbility and there are so many solutions at hand. It is only about swallowing your own pride and reach out for help.

Sending a child outside the homecountry should also be regarded as a crime unless it is the entire family that is moving. Moving to another town just to avoid being checked upon should be regarded as a crime. That is how child-molesters work. They need someone to convince that child that a rape is a bad dream or the child herself is to blame. And that is were the program can be of service to the molester, because no program would shut down the money-source. Not for a second. They would aid the molester and make the child think that a rape is the child's own fault.

So I say yes to programs generally, but no programs without the athorities in the hometown of the child checking into it and no to programs that enable a child going there without court order.

And as a last security precausion: The child should have acces to at telephone hot-line to the social services in his hometown without censorship 24-7.
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« Reply #73 on: October 31, 2006, 12:29:01 AM »
KJ=HER! (not him)

my parents did clean up for the most part while I was there as a result of my using while there (failing drug tests after visits, and snorting meds).

We used AR as a school, a place to get off the drugs w/ treatment, but the main thing was to get 2 felonies off my record....which was done.

I've been home since July 14th and haven't touched drugs since before that. Things are going well now, my parents are doing as good as they can. It's easy for me to deal with them, they've been this way my whole life. I have a 21 year old brother who is an extreme straight edge (i.e.no drugs, drinking, etc) kid.

Someone asked if I had not seen people there and wondered why they were there, yes this did happen but it was only maybe 2% of the population there. I found that kids who didn't have drug problems had extreme anger issues and often got into fist fights and LOTS of verbal fights (drama was a mainstream thing on the girls teams)
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« Reply #74 on: October 31, 2006, 02:08:41 AM »
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