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« Reply #870 on: March 01, 2006, 04:32:00 PM »
Gee, do you think three months was enough time to brainwash him into forgiving his parents for having him kidnapped?  I don't know, I think it would take alot longer than that!
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« Reply #871 on: March 01, 2006, 04:34:00 PM »
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On 2006-03-01 12:23:00, CCM girl 1989 wrote:

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Quit being such a bitch! You are really on my last nerve.



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Ps-Congats, you are the first person I've called a name like that on this site."
Why am I a bitch?  Because I question some of your words regarding family you dont even know?  Because some of what you say is so far off the wall? Maybe your parents left you there and didn't care about you, but that is not the problem with this family.  Stop projecting what happend to you onto every other person.  WWASP may not be the wonderful place they want you to beleive but also not the place you describe.  Could it be the people who are working with Alex are different from the people who were there with you?  If I am a bitch then fine.  I am also not afraid to post here anymore and do not care what you think.  I will challenge all of the stupid things that you say.
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« Reply #872 on: March 01, 2006, 04:37:00 PM »
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Excuse me again, but nobody has to bring him home and the state will not spend the money to do it themselves since he is not a murderer.  If he does come home it will be because his parents think that is best.  Also, he may be grateful for all the wonderful help you have given him, but he may also not appreciate his life story being on the internet for all to see.  Did you think about that Ashley and Leslie?"






Wow, did you hear that judge? No respect for your orders. Great family, huh?



Printing as we speak........it will be mailed tomorrow morning.



Thanks for the post."
See how you twist what is written.  You have  no idea what is going on with all of this.  Mail what you want, you are to dumb for words.
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« Reply #873 on: March 01, 2006, 04:42:00 PM »
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On 2006-03-01 13:34:00, Aunt Shelly wrote:

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On 2006-03-01 12:23:00, CCM girl 1989 wrote:


"Aunt Shelly,





Quit being such a bitch! You are really on my last nerve.





CCM girl 1989











Ps-Congats, you are the first person I've called a name like that on this site."

Why am I a bitch?  Because I question some of your words regarding family you dont even know?  Because some of what you say is so far off the wall? Maybe your parents left you there and didn't care about you, but that is not the problem with this family.  Stop projecting what happend to you onto every other person.  WWASP may not be the wonderful place they want you to beleive but also not the place you describe.  Could it be the people who are working with Alex are different from the people who were there with you?  If I am a bitch then fine.  I am also not afraid to post here anymore and do not care what you think.  I will challenge all of the stupid things that you say."


Wake up Shelly, it's obvious you haven't done much research. The same people who ran Cross Creek, run Spring Creek Lodge. Staff are taught by the same people. Please take your smart pill, and stop playing dumb.

There are more stories of abuse everyday coming out of WWASPS. You'd have to be deaf, blind, and stupid not to realize that.
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« Reply #874 on: March 01, 2006, 04:46:00 PM »
quote]See how you twist what is written.  You have  no idea what is going on with all of this.  Mail what you want, you are to dumb for words."
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Correction.......

too dumb for words.
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« Reply #875 on: March 01, 2006, 04:48:00 PM »
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Hey, I don't have kids right now. But, I promise you I will do a much better job then Alex's parents did with him.

I would never farm out my parental responsibilities to a complete stranger. I would take care of things myself.


To the rest of the family that just sits by, and lets this happen..........you're not off the hook.


 :question: What can I do? He isn't my kid. I do not have power of attorney over him.
Who is to say I wouldn't do the same thing I really don't know because unlike you I am smart enough to know that unless put in this situation I have know idea what I would do.
I am not off the hook yet?
What are you going to do to me? Or do you think I have it coming from Alex? Hate to say it but he is more mature then you. I am not worried. He knows I love him and I hope we have an even closer relationship after this.
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« Reply #876 on: March 01, 2006, 04:50:00 PM »
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On 2006-03-01 13:32:00, Anonymous wrote:

"Gee, do you think three months was enough time to brainwash him into forgiving his parents for having him kidnapped?  I don't know, I think it would take alot longer than that!"



Just want you to know I do know who is posting Anonymous. Gotta love the internet I learned how to read IP's You should just sign in on your screen name. Wow how stupid
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« Reply #877 on: March 01, 2006, 05:05:00 PM »
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Excuse me again, but nobody has to bring him home and the state will not spend the money to do it themselves since he is not a murderer.  If he does come home it will be because his parents think that is best.  Also, he may be grateful for all the wonderful help you have given him, but he may also not appreciate his life story being on the internet for all to see.  Did you think about that Ashley and Leslie?"






Wow, did you hear that judge? No respect for your orders. Great family, huh?



Printing as we speak........it will be mailed tomorrow morning.



Thanks for the post."


 Print this crack head. It isn't her kid she could care less what happens to him. If he gets back into drugs it is job security for her. More money for the county. I bet things would be different if it was her kid. Maybe like you she is just ignorant because she doesn't have any.
I never hear your mom mentioned. Could it be possible your father didn't know what to do with an out of control girl?
I will agree with you. Kids are put in these programs for to long. I can't agree yet with the abuse I will find out. There are parents who put here kids in these places to get them out of there lives I believe that. Sorry not this family as much as you want every family to be like yours there not.
So if Alex's posts here when he is ready to and it isn't what you want to hear then what I understand is. He will either be a troll or we will be holding a gun to his head. That is great I am sure after reading that he may feel there is no reason to post. Because if he didn't have a bad experience like you then you wont believe him. Nice I thought that both sides where welcome on this forum?
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« Reply #878 on: March 01, 2006, 05:28:00 PM »
CIM-

I realize you are one of two Aunts. I didn't think you would take a screen name like CaughtInTheMiddle unless you were duh, caught in the middle.

When I have kids, would I attempt to take out their tonsils??? What kind of question is that?!! Look, I know where you are going with that. Did the school put that in your head? I bet you they did. I guess I am lucky because my Dad had his own dental practice, and had a lot of close friends that were doctors. Not to mention my grandfather who was a pediatrician. Oh and his brother who was also a doctor who delivered me. So, even though I am not qualified to perform such procedures, I would have direct links to people who do. There would be a good chance I know this doctor PERSONALLY that would be performing this surgery on my child.

I'm not going to back down to you either. Keep coming at me, with whatever you want to say. I will not stop.

BTW-it was my Aunt and Uncle that saved me from a life of hell. So, you are not off the hook. Family is family. It's funny, I love my Aunt more then my Mom and Dad put together. My Aunt was my Mom's only sister. She's great. Even though we are now seperated....she's in Florida (but, does more travel then anyone I know), and I am in California we make it a point to get together whenever possible. You may be just the Aunt, but if you are the one that can develop a close relationship with Alex, then you should. His parents, might not be able to after they did what they did. He may have a lot of resentment.

I think that's all for the moment?

Ps-Wake up!!!!
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« Reply #879 on: March 01, 2006, 05:35:00 PM »
Um, my Mom's dead.

As far as the crackhead comment........please! I bet you I live a better, healthier lifestyle then you. Not only do I work out 2 hours a day, watch what I eat, I live in a million dollar home, and have it all going on. Don't be jealous, and don't be hating on me either.
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« Reply #880 on: March 01, 2006, 05:36:00 PM »
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On 2006-03-01 13:46:00, CCM girl 1989 wrote:

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See how you twist what is written.  You have  no idea what is going on with all of this.  Mail what you want, you are to dumb for words."




Correction.......



too dumb for words.



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You are sooo smart.  Thank You.[ This Message was edited by: Eudora on 2006-03-01 16:04 ]
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« Reply #881 on: March 01, 2006, 06:05:00 PM »
Dear Mr. Exit Plan,  You are one of the few people on this site who did not bash the family. Thank you.  Your information and personal story were very hard to read because your pain comes through each word, but it was also very informative.  I have been having a very hard time with some of the really stupid things said here about this family.  Do the people here really think that if these things were going on with Alex his parents  would just leave him there?  There has been contact with him and he is not being hurt or brainwashed.  And I also don't think there was a gun at his head during the 45 minute conversations.  Not to mention all of his personal letters.  His sense of humor seems to be intact also.  You should continue to spread your word because the information is invaluable.
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« Reply #882 on: March 01, 2006, 06:15:00 PM »
"I realize you are one of two Aunts. I didn't think you would take a screen name like CaughtInTheMiddle unless you were duh, caught in the middle."

Then why do you keep saying things like?

"I have a feeling once emotions have calmed down, you'll be okay admitting you were wrong for sending him away to strangers to behaivor modification camp, and hopefully Alex will forgive you, and not hold it against you."   Talk about duh!

 "I would have direct links to people who do.There would be a good chance I know this doctor PERSONALLY that would be performing this surgery on my child" What the same family members that just let you sit in CCM and rote for 2 years hmmm.

" I bet you I live a better, healthier lifestyle then you. Not only do I work out 2 hours a day, watch what I eat, I live in a million dollar home, and have it all going on. Don't be jealous, and don't be hating on me either." Oh Please you have no idea what I do. Big deal a million dollar home get over yourself if that is true why don't you sell it and take your millions and go after these schools?  Is it not worth you money?
I also work out 2 hours a day have 2 kids have a career. Nobody gives me money I make it all by myself. I also watch what I eat. As I put it in my mouth...lol

"Don't be jealous, and don't be hating on me either." You don't have to worry about me being jealous or hating on you. You do nothing for me.


"Did the school put that in your head?"  I don't know how they could have seeing I have never been there.

So how did your aunt get you out? She couldn't have walked in and got you. It seems funny you just mention this now. There has been many time I have asked what you think I could do being an Aunt? Nothing was ever said. Because there is nothing I can do. Did you run out of things to try and use against me. You really don't scare me. I do feel sorry for you though I don't know if the school made you this way or maybe you have always been this way that is why you were sent to CCM

PS    I AM AWAKE.
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« Reply #883 on: March 01, 2006, 06:25:00 PM »
CCM Girl, How old are you?  I actually feel very immature being on this site and arguing with you as in the scheme of things it makes no difference to the outcome and that is what is important.  I do take issue with all the family bashing.  This family is obviously very different then yours. Your comments are related to your life experiences not this families.  I need to keep that in mind when you make me crazy with some of the things you say.
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« Reply #884 on: March 01, 2006, 06:55:00 PM »
Do you not have a good enough relationship with Alex's parents? You posting on here makes it seem like you do? I'm confused? They don't trust you with their child? I'm not clear on that?

Listen, because I really don't like having to repeat myself. When I was in Cross Creek I shared an inappropriate relationship with the owner of the school. I was going to be in there no matter what until the age of 18. I basically told the owner I would tell everyone what was going on unless he had me transferred to a real boarding school. I had already been in these types of schools for 4 1/2 years. I had 1 1/2 years to go. It was either me killing myself, or blackmailing him for my freedom. So, yes I blackmailed him, okay?!! Anyway, he told me I could say whatever I wanted because he would have me shipped off to Wilderness Camp where nobody would hear from me. So, I told my therapist. Which led to an investigation, which lead him to being kicked off the property of CCM. Then when I heard preperations for my departure, I ran.

They looked for me the first night, I know this because they were chasing after me! After that, I don't think they tried. I say this because they seemed to find every other person who ran. As far as I know I am still the only one that has gotten out that way. After a couple weeks, I called my therapist. He told me to call home. I spoke with my parents, and they agreed to send me money. I guess I wasn't sure what to do at that point. I had been incarcerated since I was 12. I knew nothing about the real world. I never have been in trouble with the law.....but I was now drinking, smoking, experimenting with drugs, and god forbid SEX! I admit, I was on my way to a miserable life.

My Aunt wanted to adopt me starting when I was 9, because she saw that my parents (Dad and Step-Mom) weren't good parents. My Dad was 53 when I was born, and had very little patience. My step-mom was a school principal, and ran our house like a school. I was miserable. I think she got off on punishing us (my older brother and I). I was sent off to school, and when my brother died in a freak drowning accident at the club we belonged to it sealed my fate that I was never to return home.

Back to it, my parents didn't want my Aunt and Uncle to adopt me, god forbid she did a better job of raising me then them. Not only that, but what would their friends say?!!

So, my Aunt tracked me down. I am not sure how? I was so bad off when I was 16 and on my own, I had no telephone. I was surprised when I had a neighbor knocking on my apartment door telling me my Aunt was on the payphone. So, I came to Norcal to visit for Christmas. A couple months later I moved in with them, and my life has been nothing but positive since.

I am proud of where I am in life. I look forward to hearing from Alex. It's kind of weird you say you read other peoples stories about their experiences in these places, but you don't think they listen to his conversations with his parents? You don't think the therapist would report on Alex's convo's with his parents? You think they would just let him say whatever he wanted to without consequences?

Wake up!
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