RMA staff I remember from RMA, you post yours from CEDU

[Whooter]

Ok, I apologize, Whoother, I should have not be so blunt with you. It is always such a sensitive topic,when it comes to our own children .
I just want to tell you this: my daughter put us through hell...in comparisson to your daughter she is a spitfire:) Yet we never, in a million years would consider to drop the ball and let anybody else raise her....

It is probably a cultural difference. And maybe that is the reason we do not have such schools and programs in our country. We do need them.

Thankfully You didnt have to raise an at-risk child.

I dont think it is a cultural difference at all, Maruska.  Many people in American look for solutions and seek help where needed.  If we cannot solve our problems within the family we look outside the home for support.  If it doesn't exist then we invent it.  I am sure you have kids living on the streets, entering prison and not contributing to society in your country.



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And you know this how? Do you want to compare notes whose daughter was more at risk? LOL

I know you do not want to hear that , but it is possible to raise children without this industry. And succesfully.
Otherwise all European teenagers would be dead or in jail...they are not, trust me on that:)

Oh, no doubt, Maruska.  Approx. 99.999% of our teenagers are raised without the help of programs and we do a good job here.   You have kids in Europe who are living in the streets, in jail and who have died from drugs, neglect etc. like most other countries.  So your raising kids at home method (without the help of the industry) is not 100% successful.  I think we can agree there anyway.



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[Joel]

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[Whooter]

Oh, no doubt, Maruska. Approx. 99.999% of our teenagers are raised without the help of programs and we do a good job here. You have kids in Europe who are living in the streets, in jail and who have died from drugs, neglect etc. like most other countries. So your raising kids at home method (without the help of the industry) is not 100% successful. I think we can agree there anyway.

Citations Whooter?   Sounds like make believe statistics to me.

 :jawdrop:

Lets take a look quick and dirty:
Well there are about 50,000,000 kids in school.  I read somewhere that there were about 300 programs.  Lets say each program has 100 people.  That’s 30,000 kids.
So 49,970,000 kids out of 50,000,000 get by without the help of programs.

Which equates to:  99.94%... not too far off.

If you have different numbers then toss them up and we can compare.  Its always good to have many opinions and sources.



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[Joel]

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[Whooter]

Lets take a look quick and dirty:
Well there are about 50,000,000 kids in school. I read somewhere that there were about 300 programs. Lets say each program has 100 people. That’s 30,000 kids.
So 49,970,000 kids out of 50,000,000 get by without the help of programs.

Which equates to: 99.94%... not too far off.

If you have different numbers then toss them up and we can compare. Its always good to have many opinions and sources.

Ya been throwing these figures out for years.  Provide a link or citations for 50,000,000 kids somewhere in school.  You read about 300 programs.  Provide a link or citation.  Your history of flooding fornits with misleading statistics.... :rofl:

Joel, I am not going to argue with you about the numbers.
Dont be lazy, go look yourself.  Add some value for a change... if you think there are 60,000,000 kids or 200 programs then speak up.   If you feel my numbers are not credible then just skip over them.  Thats what I do with your personal accounts from RMA.  They have no credibility and we both know that.  But I am not going to cry over it and force you to prove it every post.



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[Joel]

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[DannyB II]

Ursus wrote:
Danny, if you are unhappy that certain people are participating in an open discussion and you want that changed, you'll just have to take it up with the Admins.
For the record, I don't recall embellishing any points nor do I recall Anne doing so. If you want to make flaming judgments like that, you might want to cite some links if you still harbor any hope that you'll be taken seriously

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Danny wrote:
Ursus for the record you have to be kidding me. Flaming judgments. You want me to cite links/posts for your embellished posts. OK but please don't be embarrassed because there are many. I will accept the challenge. Give me time. OH your support for Annie Bananie is touching.  
There is another web site I would also like to take your posts to, so we could get a broader opinion on the embellishment of your posts.
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2. to heighten the attractiveness of by adding decorative or fanciful details : enhance - ?ed our account of the trip- Synonym - see adorn
Ursus if you look at the results of "embellish" you will see it is not exactly a flaming remark, more a attractive illustration of the aggrandizement of your posts.

Citation #1.
As far as public schools go, it really depends mostly on the neighborhood and/or town, doesn't it? If you think that what's going on in a PS in Grosse Point, Michigan or Manhasset, Long Island can possibly compare with what's going on in a PS in the South Bronx, you are seriously delusional.
Bring this up at the next School Board Meeting in the South Bronx, please. NO Maybe I'll just post it on their web site and see what kind of response you get.
Citation #2.
Just what are you trying to say here? Are you trying to dissuade me from pointing out the obvious, namely, that not all public schools are equivalent when it comes to the quality of the education one receives, that local poverty does affect the quality of services one does or does not receive at school, and that some schools have significant problems with bullying and others do not?

Danny

[Joel]

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[DannyB II]

Citation #1.

As far as public schools go, it really depends mostly on the neighborhood and/or town, doesn't it? If you think that what's going on in a PS in Grosse Point, Michigan or Manhasset, Long Island can possibly compare with what's going on in a PS in the South Bronx, you are seriously delusional.
Bring this up at the next School Board Meeting in the South Bronx, please. NO Maybe I'll just post it on their web site and see what kind of response you get.

Citation #2.

Just what are you trying to say here? Are you trying to dissuade me from pointing out the obvious, namely, that not all public schools are equivalent when it comes to the quality of the education one receives, that local poverty does affect the quality of services one does or does not receive at school, and that some schools have significant problems with bullying and others do not?

Danny

Link?  You do have a vivid imagination.

Joel as you requested.
viewtopic.php?f=22&t=30639&start=15

Danny

[Whooter]

Joel, I am not going to argue with you about the numbers.
Dont be lazy, go look yourself. Add some value for a change... if you think there are 60,000,000 kids or 200 programs then speak up. If you feel my numbers are not credible then just skip over them. Thats what I do with your personal accounts from RMA. They have no credibility and we both know that. But I am not going to cry over it and force you to prove it every post.

Sorry Joel, didnt mean to be critical.  Dont get so upset.  Just try to get along a little better and try to see other peoples perspective a little more.  You tend to ask a lot from others with out contributing much yourself.



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[Joel]

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[Joel]

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[Whooter]

Whooter I"m not upset and don't think you're critical.  

Thats good, Carry on then.



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[Paul St. John]

Whooter I"m not upset and don't think you're critical.  

Thats good, Carry on then.



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Are you excited Joel?  Whooter has granted you the right to carry on!!!!!

[DannyB II]

Citation #1.

As far as public schools go, it really depends mostly on the neighborhood and/or town, doesn't it? If you think that what's going on in a PS in Grosse Point, Michigan or Manhasset, Long Island can possibly compare with what's going on in a PS in the South Bronx, you are seriously delusional.
Bring this up at the next School Board Meeting in the South Bronx, please. NO Maybe I'll just post it on their web site and see what kind of response you get.

Citation #2.

Just what are you trying to say here? Are you trying to dissuade me from pointing out the obvious, namely, that not all public schools are equivalent when it comes to the quality of the education one receives, that local poverty does affect the quality of services one does or does not receive at school, and that some schools have significant problems with bullying and others do not?

Danny

   *  The author's name
    * The title of the article
    * The name of the magazine or journal in which it is located
    * The volume number of the magazine or journal
    * The page numbers on which the article is located
    * The date when the article was published

Not my job man, just posting the facts but hey if you want to run around and help your buddy have at it.