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Offline sean-the-lifer-1990-1991

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« on: October 23, 2005, 01:19:00 AM »
Just found this web site recently. Any old cronies out there from 90-91 life program. I was there for a solid nineteen months.

Just checking- I have to find proof sometimes that place actually happened.It is a distant blur but it wasn't always that distant. Days would sit on days on end sitting on that wooden bench. Sean (One of the Charlestonians exported to sarasota). [ This Message was edited by: sean-the-lifer-1990-1991 on 2005-10-22 22:19 ]
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« Reply #1 on: October 23, 2005, 03:08:00 PM »
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"Just found this web site recently. Any old cronies out there from 90-91 life program. I was there for a solid nineteen months.



Just checking- I have to find proof sometimes that place actually happened.It is a distant blur but it wasn't always that distant. Days would sit on days on end sitting on that wooden bench. Sean (One of the Charlestonians exported to sarasota). [ This Message was edited by: sean-the-lifer-1990-1991 on 2005-10-22 22:19 ]"


I even have pictures of what it looks like now.  Unfortunately, they're tied up on my phone, which has a broken "picture sender".

You can get the description here: http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?to ... t=0#133100
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« Reply #2 on: October 24, 2005, 08:29:00 AM »
goto google earth and you get a nice aerial photo. jump down turnaround then zoom in. would love to go visit that place, would not trade that experience for anything. (Im strange like that I guess) but overall, I must admit, it was a great overall time. sean
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« Reply #3 on: October 24, 2005, 03:05:00 PM »
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"goto google earth and you get a nice aerial photo. jump down turnaround then zoom in. would love to go visit that place, would not trade that experience for anything. (Im strange like that I guess) but overall, I must admit, it was a great overall time. sean"


Maybe you missed it, Sean - I was there a month ago.  Went in, walked around, almost bought a really cool set of wine glasses. :grin:
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« Reply #4 on: October 24, 2005, 06:00:00 PM »
Actually I understood. What years were you down there? Sean
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« Reply #5 on: October 26, 2005, 11:24:00 PM »
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"Actually I understood. What years were you down there? Sean"


Helena must have missed you're question. I don't think she'll mind if I answer for her. She was there for about 4 months in '84.

I was there for the about the first half of '87. And  when Helena told me that she went in that building recently, I wondered how in the hell she was able to do it. If I went in there, I think they might have to call 911 and bring me out on a stretcher. It makes me nauseous everytime I pass by the place.

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« Reply #6 on: October 27, 2005, 09:51:00 AM »
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"Actually I understood. What years were you down there? Sean"




Helena must have missed you're question. I don't think she'll mind if I answer for her. She was there for about 4 months in '84.



I was there for the about the first half of '87. And  when Helena told me that she went in that building recently, I wondered how in the hell she was able to do it. If I went in there, I think they might have to call 911 and bring me out on a stretcher. It makes me nauseous everytime I pass by the place.



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Sorry Sean - wasn't watching that close.  Yep - I was in for a few months before the cash ran out.  I guess you could call my Oscar Winning performance a fond memory - It's pretty sad when you have to make shit up to "make a phase", dontcha think?

As far as my building visit - it's just a building.  Buildings and geography can't rule your life unless you let them.
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« Reply #7 on: October 27, 2005, 11:07:00 AM »
No, but I'll tell ya what one building visit that did freak me out. I was out to see my mother some years ago and cruised by the old Cattleman Road property a few miles away. This was before I had done any research. So I was expecting to find the same old warehouse serving some other purpose. Instead, there was a pretty big HRS complex in it's place.

That was just creepy! Of all the places for an HRS complex, why that property? Did they force it out of them and keep it as a trophy? Or was it a sweetheart deal? I just found it very upsetting.

The nature of psychological compulsion is such that those who act under constraint remain under the impression that they are acting on their own initiative. The victim of mind-manipulation does not know that he is a victim. To him the walls of his prison are invisible, and he believes himself to be free. That he is not free is apparent only to other people. His servitude is strictly objective.




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« Reply #8 on: October 27, 2005, 11:54:00 AM »
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"No, but I'll tell ya what one building visit that did freak me out. I was out to see my mother some years ago and cruised by the old Cattleman Road property a few miles away. This was before I had done any research. So I was expecting to find the same old warehouse serving some other purpose. Instead, there was a pretty big HRS complex in it's place.



That was just creepy! Of all the places for an HRS complex, why that property? Did they force it out of them and keep it as a trophy? Or was it a sweetheart deal? I just found it very upsetting.


No shit?  I think I'd be creeped out too.

However, I think I read in Trevor Aaronson's article that a guy from HRS at the time blew the whistle on Straight, and other people on the HRS side had their jobs threatened if they didn't keep licensing straight.  I could be wrong, but if that was the case, and HRS won a new building after they drove out the demons, I'd say the decent people at HRS who called Straight on their shit won the battle.

Don't get me wrong - on the whole HRS (renamed DCF after the Rilya Wilson debacle - the "lost" foster kid they STILL can't find) is a sad excuse for a "welfare" agency.  They probably also had to change their name since HRS came to be known as "Home wRecking Services".

What I was trying to say about "Buildings and Geography" is that - for some reason, some people I know, who know this part of my history - want to blame anything from bitchiness to a bad hair day on "The Program".  Fuck, it's been 20+ years, and I wasn't all that affected by it anyway.  

Eh - so maybe I had to prove it to myself :grin:[ This Message was edited by: Helena Handbasket on 2005-10-27 09:07 ]
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« Reply #9 on: October 28, 2005, 10:01:00 PM »
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"As far as my building visit - it's just a building.  Buildings and geography can't rule your life unless you let them."


Who said anything about letting it run my life? Some people get sick on airplanes, I get sick in LIFE buildings. And I really was saying that I look up to you for being able to do it.
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« Reply #10 on: October 28, 2005, 10:02:00 PM »
And yeah, that was my post.
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« Reply #11 on: October 29, 2005, 11:47:00 AM »
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"As far as my building visit - it's just a building.  Buildings and geography can't rule your life unless you let them."




Who said anything about letting it run my life? Some people get sick on airplanes, I get sick in LIFE buildings. And I really was saying that I look up to you for being able to do it."


"You" being the general plural possessive... as in "You guys" or "Yous people" as they say in Western MA - which is easy to confuse with Brooklyn. :grin:

It's my choice to put it into the perspective of a building on a patch of dirt in Sarasota county.  My decision.  You can look at it any way you like.
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« Reply #12 on: October 29, 2005, 03:17:00 PM »
Antigen -

  You are mistaken.  HRS no longer exists.  DCF is now the agency name, and their facilities in Sarasota are located on 17th St. near U.S. 301.
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« Reply #13 on: October 29, 2005, 03:40:00 PM »
Yup, I know. When I was there, it was still HRS. And still, to this day, when the no-neck's get into a brawl, you can hear them hollering out in the street "No! I'm gonna call HRS on YEEEEWWWWW!" LOL

Same fucked up agency, though. And I bet the still own the property at 1401 Cattleman Road, too. It's right at the end of Buena Vista, w/ the back end of the property facing the interstate. Check it out.

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« Reply #14 on: October 29, 2005, 05:37:00 PM »
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"You" being the general plural possessive... as in "You guys" or "Yous people" as they say in Western MA - which is easy to confuse with Brooklyn. :grin:



It's my choice to put it into the perspective of a building on a patch of dirt in Sarasota county.  My decision.  You can look at it any way you like.


Well, I was the one who posted the original comment about the building making me sick.

And the fact is, I admire you for being able to look at it as "just a building". I hope one day I can do the same.

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