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NOTICE TO POTENTIAL PARENTS
Anonymous:
Ok HydeFan, I challenge you to talk to one of your contacts at Hyde. Make sure it is either Malcolm Gauld, or Duncan McCrann. Ask them about the rape of a student who they know VERY WELL. You can tell them that you think there are vicious rumors being spread on the internet and ask them to dispel them. Ask THEM how they handled it, and then get back to us! I think you will be very sorry you called us liars and will be making an apology shortly!
The student told everyone in group how it was being handled, so if you want to call anyone a liar, then call him one because it came from the horses mouth!
Again you continue to say, "it happens in all schools." You truly did not learn anything from Hyde if this is your attitude. I can just imagine one day you having a child and that child is gang raped and as much as you tell the school these kids need to be prosecuted, you say to yourself, "oh well, the school is not obligated. We will handle it in house." You DON'T GET IT!! According to this boy, the way it was handled was like all things at Hyde are handled. That talked about it in seminar with a bunch of kids and a non professional facilitator!! UNBELIEVABLE!!
HydeFan:
Slipery is as slipery does, Anonymous.
--- Quote ---According to this boy, the way it was handled was like all things at Hyde are handled. That talked about it in seminar with a bunch of kids and a non professional facilitator!!
--- End quote ---
Hmmmm. The new facts you are alleging today are not that the allegedly raped student was talking about his anger over the rape in a seminar, but that he was upset with the way the school handled it, and wasn't allowed to go to the police. Is that what you are saying?
The problem is, your sentence starts: "according to the boy", but then goes on to suggest a third person narative of what a third person would have seen, not a report of what the boy said. This is a common technique (often subliminal) of someone who doesn't want to come right out and tell a lie, but knows what they are saying isn't true. A non sequitur as you will; a reply that has no relevance to what preceded it.
For instance, if I was writing about what I heard, then I would have written, "according to this boy, he was pissed that the only place he had to talk about this was in a seminar because pressure was put on him not to take it to the police".
Assuming my interpretation is correct (otherwise you should tell us more precisely what the boy said), you are now saying he was allowed to talk about it in a group seminar and did so freely, but wasn't allowed to talk with the police about it, and even when he was so upset, he was really pissed at the process, not just the rape.
Do you know how ridiculous this sounds? Even if you had written it this way, it doesn't fit into any realm of reason. It also shows you have about zero experience with dealing with violent crime victims.
In any event, that isn't how you wrote it, so while you can try and rest your argument on innuendo and trying to reframe the arguement to suggest I don't favor reporting crimes (or something like that), I think most will see through it.
You say "according to the boy", but the rest of your sentence and the following one don't fit, grammatically or logically.
Honestly, I think you are lying again because you were caught in a lie (that Hyde had a legal obligation that they violated), and are now shift the discussion by adding new "facts", without actually stating them as facts.
Anyway, I have no intention of calling Hyde. If you don't want to prove your allegations yourself, that's your problem. I actually never questioned the alleged rape itself (other than to say I am suspect at anything you say because you are a proven liar at this point).
One last question Anonymous. If all of this did happen, how come you didn't make an Anonymous call to the police? As far as I can tell, as between you and I, the only one with a history of not doing "the right thing" with regarding to reporting violent crime is you.
Anonymous:
You aren't even worth answering, but I will. You are trying to play word games in order to make me out to be a liar. I will say this loud, I AM NOT LYING ABOUT THIS INCIDENT!!
Obviously you are much more educated them me as far as your writing skills, so you say!! My guess is you are an attorney by the way you write and the fact that you are so self rightous!
Facts:
1) Several boys sodomized a student at Hyde within the last 10 years
2) This CRIME was handled "in house" through seminaring. The boy spoke out about it.
3) You can try to put words in my mouth, try to justify, or try to do whatever you want. I DON"T CARE. Fact is a boy was raped and it was not reported to the police. If you want to continue with your crap about Hyde not being obligated to report it, FINE!!
As far as trying to turn this around and ask me why I did not report it, well idiot, I went to Hyde at the time, and I did not want to go on 2-4 for going against them!
You can try to insult me all you want by correcting my grammar, but those really interested in Hyde most people can see through you!! I would NEVER devulge the name of this student because this was a horrible crime. No one who had this happen to them deserves to have this published. I obviously have more integrity than you! Maybe someone else from Hyde would like to talk more about this, but I won't be the one to hurt this kid more!!
Troll Control:
--- Quote ---On 2005-10-09 12:51:00, HydeFan wrote:
"Slipery is as slipery does, Anonymous.
--- Quote ---According to this boy, the way it was handled was like all things at Hyde are handled. That talked about it in seminar with a bunch of kids and a non professional facilitator!!
--- End quote ---
Hmmmm. The new facts you are alleging today are not that the allegedly raped student was talking about his anger over the rape in a seminar, but that he was upset with the way the school handled it, and wasn't allowed to go to the police. Is that what you are saying?
The problem is, your sentence starts: "according to the boy", but then goes on to suggest a third person narative of what a third person would have seen, not a report of what the boy said. This is a common technique (often subliminal) of someone who doesn't want to come right out and tell a lie, but knows what they are saying isn't true. A non sequitur as you will; a reply that has no relevance to what preceded it.
For instance, if I was writing about what I heard, then I would have written, "according to this boy, he was pissed that the only place he had to talk about this was in a seminar because pressure was put on him not to take it to the police".
Assuming my interpretation is correct (otherwise you should tell us more precisely what the boy said), you are now saying he was allowed to talk about it in a group seminar and did so freely, but wasn't allowed to talk with the police about it, and even when he was so upset, he was really pissed at the process, not just the rape.
Do you know how ridiculous this sounds? Even if you had written it this way, it doesn't fit into any realm of reason. It also shows you have about zero experience with dealing with violent crime victims.
In any event, that isn't how you wrote it, so while you can try and rest your argument on innuendo and trying to reframe the arguement to suggest I don't favor reporting crimes (or something like that), I think most will see through it.
You say "according to the boy", but the rest of your sentence and the following one don't fit, grammatically or logically.
Honestly, I think you are lying again because you were caught in a lie (that Hyde had a legal obligation that they violated), and are now shift the discussion by adding new "facts", without actually stating them as facts.
Anyway, I have no intention of calling Hyde. If you don't want to prove your allegations yourself, that's your problem. I actually never questioned the alleged rape itself (other than to say I am suspect at anything you say because you are a proven liar at this point).
One last question Anonymous. If all of this did happen, how come you didn't make an Anonymous call to the police? As far as I can tell, as between you and I, the only one with a history of not doing "the right thing" with regarding to reporting violent crime is you."
--- End quote ---
Wow. You are really a fucking asshole. It's plain and simple. You have no idea how pompous and arrogant you sound, aside from the fact that you defend this wretched so-called "school."
BTW, you have no business correcting anyone's spelling or grammar because, to the literate among us, your spelling and grammar are atrocious.
I disagree with the poster who thought you may be a lawyer. I believe you are a liar, not a lawyer (although those terms are somewhat interchangable). You should edit your posts with the help of a dictionary and review basic grammar rules, as you have scarcely a clue as to how to construct a proper sentence.
You are an obtuse fool who tries to hide behind your language and reasoning "skills," but to those of us who are clearly more highly educated than you and who clearly have superior reasoning ability than you, you appear as nothing more than a tool.
Antigen:
Know what? It doesn't matter whether this particular incident occured or not. You, HydeFan, have stated pretty clearly that, even if it did happen, you're fine w/ protecting the rapist from prosecution. And you're right, the victim and their family do have the right to decide what to do about it. I just think that's a usful tidbit of information for any prospective customers, that's all. They ought to know the policy on student/student assaults of various kinds before they ship their kids to you.
And thank you for clarifying that. You're a big help.
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