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Offline starry-eyed pirate

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« on: September 12, 2005, 01:02:00 PM »
i' jus' been thinkin'... It's taken me about 4 months(on top of years of meditation) to even calm down enough to realize the crimes i committed, fuck i can hardly talk about it; my participation in Str8.  

Yeah i misbehaved and ran away and talked out in group and punched 5th phasers in the face and all that shit, but i broke under their weight and after i been there so long i began to see what they wanted me to see.  It was i who was finally made weak but i turned that weakness to strength  when i apologized.  Whether i am forgiven or not by apologizin' i acknowledge my role and claim responsibility for my crimes.  This has caused a fundamental shift in my perspective.  

i am grateful for you. PEACE

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« Reply #1 on: September 12, 2005, 06:21:00 PM »
Pirate---what "crimes" are you responsible for while in Straight?

I understand the idea of owning your actions, taking responsibility, apologies, etc....but if you mean "crimes" while in straight, then how can they be crimes if all thoughts and actions in straight were all under constant coercion in various forms? Know what I mean?....like did you (or I for that matter) every really have a choice? The consequences were so severe that our thoughts and actions were forced upon us and compliance meant acting and thinking straight's way for survival.

If we really ever had choices, then I would agree completely with you. Dont get me wrong, I'm not disagreeing with you actually...its just the idea of being remotely responsible for actions and thoughts while in straight baffles me. ::rainbow::
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« Reply #2 on: September 12, 2005, 06:36:00 PM »
Read this Starry-eyed pirate , I typed it all out for you, because I wanted to share it. With out you , I could not experience myself as Who I Really Am. I could not be the up nor the down of it, the good or the bad of it, the left or the right of it.... The God in me sees the God in all of us.


http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?to ... &forum=7&1


I hope you understand what it means, it helps me remember Who I Am , I hope it does the same for you and who ever takes the time to read it.
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« Reply #3 on: September 12, 2005, 06:48:00 PM »
Hey anon---got anything that explains how the victim could possibly be the villan?.....that was my question to pirate...

And anon----great post---It made perfect sense to me---my own thinking is very close to this and reminded me of one thing I had forgotten---BUT I just can't forgive straight yet---maybe someday...
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« Reply #5 on: September 12, 2005, 07:10:00 PM »
I simply mean , it is possible that the vicyim could have been the villian in another life. If you believe that  kind of thing. Believeing it for myself allows me a better understanding of why I do certian things of have certian things done to me.

It could be true , or it could simply be a copping mechanism. Either way it allows me a greater understnding of myself and all the rolls I can manifest here over and over again.

 I'd like to think by  learning to fully understand myself I can evolve to the next higher vibration.~ Bliss if you will.

 Which is far better and self fulfilling than feeling hate and despise for others who may have or may not have done me wrong. This line of thinking allows me to take responsibility for my actions w/o harboring the deep guilt felt by so many.

I can not achieve this state of being often, which tells me I have ALOT of ~ growing/learning yet to do. That is what makes me human and separerates me from God as I choose interpret it as being.
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« Reply #7 on: September 12, 2005, 07:20:00 PM »
Sorry  :???:
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« Reply #9 on: September 12, 2005, 07:46:00 PM »
Anon....

I understand why the reincarnation idea makes sense to some people, therefore will not disagree with you on it. I realize this is your opinion and are entitled to it...but let's just say that in my opinion, I think this is one thing that no human being is capable of knowing whether it exists or not...in my mind....only god can know this....and yeah I have trouble with the higher vibration idea too...(I have researched both these ideas in the past) but that's just my take on it...just so you know where I'm coming from.

BUT I fully agree how important it is to let go of hate (even though I fail often), to fully understanding myself so I can be a better person, taking resposibility for MY actions (NOT others actions), etc. Maybe my question was not clear....let me try to restate it....how can one be both a victim and villian at the same time and moment (while in straight)? Clearly in our lives we can be a victim in one instance then a villian in the next instance, but simultaneously? Maybe I misinterpret pirate's post, which is possible.
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« Reply #10 on: September 12, 2005, 08:47:00 PM »
i don' mean crimes in a legal sense jus' crimes because i allowed myself to become an oppressor.
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« Reply #11 on: September 12, 2005, 08:48:00 PM »
I'm not sure how to explain it, But in situations like Straight, I believe we were ALL the victim and villian at the same instant. Or maybe it's which one of those an individual chooses to live from at that moment. I do know for sure that we were all of that tho.

Does that mean I am able to always forgive ? NOPE, my forgiveness fluctuates, from fully understanding to complete hatered. But that is my process, and I must take responsibility for it, because I too often disagree and therefore hurt others w/ my opinion. I am never sorry ( like in an apoligetic way )If I know I have acted from a mature self rightous honest way. However I can be Sorry , in a way that I feel sorrow the one I am hurting does not understand why.

Never did I say that this is the end all be all. But I must look at it as One possibility.
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« Reply #13 on: September 12, 2005, 08:57:00 PM »
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