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« Reply #810 on: April 09, 2006, 04:48:00 AM »
any of you realize how many posters HERE are gay, or how many people were sent FOR being gay?
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« Reply #811 on: April 09, 2006, 09:31:00 AM »
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And speaking of mental health, do any of Carlbrooks counselors or academicians have degrees from unacredited schools?
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Counseling degress from internet schools, yes.  How exactly does one get a psychology or social work degree from the internet without even doing an internship?  Pretty scary...
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« Reply #812 on: April 09, 2006, 09:34:00 AM »
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On 2006-04-08 16:15:00, Anonymous wrote:

"I have no idea how to check an IP address. That guy Dysfunction Junction always says he's checking the IP addresses to see if the anons are the same posters and then says that the posts are coming from the same computer.  But...just maybe...he's lying about that, too."


"Too" means "also."  You've yet to show anything anyone else has said to be a lie and have yet to show any evidence that the program works.  I guess just making it up is good enough for you.

Please make a list of DJ's "lies" so that we can tell you're not lying, which, BTW, you are.
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« Reply #813 on: April 09, 2006, 09:38:00 AM »
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On 2006-04-08 15:53:00, Anonymous wrote:

"We aren't going away.  We will flood this thread with our success stories.  There are more happy Carlbrook people than the 10 or so of you that spend your lives here.  "


So then why is it only you that keeps posting?  For those of you who sdon't know, this is the lady who's son went to Carlbrook "voluntarily."  

He "volunteered" because the other "choices" Mom gave him were boot camp or being shipped "overseas" to some foreign hell-hole where he could be abused more effectively. Some choices.  Thanks, mom, for the trying "everything."  What a liar.

This lady is a giant crock of shit and one of the ONLY THREE CB supporters posting.
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« Reply #814 on: April 09, 2006, 09:51:00 AM »
Maybe you should check the Carlbrook website and you will see the degrees from vey credible schools that most of the academic and therapeutic staff hold. I'm sure you have the expertise to evaluate the online degree programs. I can attest to the fact that if a counselor has been hired at Carlbrook, they have proven themselves in some way. Grant Price is very particular about who he hires to work there, and if they don't cut it, they are gone.

There are a number of parents and students who have posted on this thread discussing the strengths and weaknesses of Carlbrook. I understand that you don't want to hear any of the positives (back to that old religious right mentality again), but they have been posted here again and again.  

My kid did NOT go voluntarily to wilderness, and remember that Carlbrook requires wilderness first.
So-gee, there MAY be several posters here...

You are so quick to judge parents for choosing this program.  However, you are not able to present an option for situations requiring a residential program which also provides relatively strong academics in an environment close to a normal boarding school.  These are kids who did not WANT to continue to live at home if it meant adhering to family requirements regarding substance use, not breaking the law, attending school, respecting others... These kids lied to their parents, their schools and their therapists.

Many of the kids who attended wilderness and Carlbrook are doing very well. They are not posting on this forum bitching about it all, in case you didn't notice.  I think that is your REAL problem.  You just can't stand it that you aren't hearing from Carlbrook kids about how they were abused and their lives are ruined. Guess what- they DON'T hate their parents, they DON'T have PTSD and they aren't spending their lives swearing at others on an internet forum.
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« Reply #815 on: April 09, 2006, 09:55:00 AM »
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You are up early this morning Karen. BTW, the only poster I see bitching is you. Keep up the good fight , Karen, maybe your imaginary friends will arrive soon.  :rofl:  :roll:
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« Reply #816 on: April 09, 2006, 09:56:00 AM »
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and they aren't spending their lives swearing at others on an internet forum.


Yeah, their parents pretty much have that one covered. Well, at least you Karen!  :lol:
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« Reply #817 on: April 09, 2006, 11:32:00 AM »
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So then why is it only you that keeps posting?  For those of you who sdon't know, this is the lady who's son went to Carlbrook "voluntarily."  



He "volunteered" because the other "choices" Mom gave him were boot camp or being shipped "overseas" to some foreign hell-hole where he could be abused more effectively. Some choices.  Thanks, mom, for the trying "everything."  What a liar.



This lady is a giant crock of shit and one of the ONLY THREE CB supporters posting."
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You are lying.  I listed several choices my kid had, including staying home. Christ School, St. Andrews, (traditional boarding schools) and living with his father were also all rejected.  If you read the post, you will read that his father wanted to send him to those other places...maybe.  He didn't know anything about any them or the industry.  Instead of letting him make an impulsive descision I travelled around the country to find our son something better.  I did my research and the three of us chose Carlbrook.  (I actually got abused on this site for incurring costs to research- and that's what we're all accused of not doing.) My son did not want to live at home and wanted to go somewhere else that he felt like it would at least be harder to find drugs.  He didn't even want the temptation.  He was never tempted.  Carlbrook drug screens regularly and my son welcomed the discipline and safe environment to get his life back on track.  Please quit lying. I agree with the earlier poster.  I'm not going away either.

About the "Brokeback Mountain" post- it was tasteless and inflamatory.  It should not have been posted.  But, with that said, all of you tend to jump to the same narrow minded conclusions that that poster did when you accuse of of being like every other program parent.  I know what he/she was trying to point out.
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« Reply #818 on: April 09, 2006, 11:39:00 AM »
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On 2006-04-09 06:34:00, Anonymous wrote:

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On 2006-04-08 16:15:00, Anonymous wrote:


"I have no idea how to check an IP address. That guy Dysfunction Junction always says he's checking the IP addresses to see if the anons are the same posters and then says that the posts are coming from the same computer.  But...just maybe...he's lying about that, too."




"Too" means "also."  You've yet to show anything anyone else has said to be a lie and have yet to show any evidence that the program works.  I guess just making it up is good enough for you.



Please make a list of DJ's "lies" so that we can tell you're not lying, which, BTW, you are."


The evidence I have is a happy ending.  DJ lies about Carlbrook being an abusive program.  It's not.  Nobody has come here and made that accusation and there have never been any accusations through the courts or otherwise.  He thinks all programs are like HLA, they are not.
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« Reply #819 on: April 09, 2006, 12:35:00 PM »
I have one more question for all of you.  In the four or five years Carlbrook has been in business, they have graduated roughly 30 kids five times a year.  Lots of kids quit the program early.  Lots of kids were asked to leave.  If any of them had been badly mistreated, don't you think they would have found this forum and began to expose it the way the other programs are exposed?  This is not a hard forum to find.  If you google Carlbrook, it pops up quickly.  The parents that are posting here are letting parents that are looking at programs that there is at least one, and maybe ONLY one that has a good record of academics, zero abuse accusations and a supportive group of current and former parents that believe in the place.  This thread is called Carlbrook- and we will keep posting the good while the rest of you invent the bad.  I don't see any other thread on fornits concerning a particular program with this kind of support- and no disgruntled former students.
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« Reply #820 on: April 09, 2006, 12:41:00 PM »
Whoever posted the the brokeback mountain comment is the scum of the earth. I dare you to come out from your fucking bag and take responsibility for your comment. Straight Gay Bi what does that have to do with being treated like a human being? This guy is probably sitting at home with cucumber up his ass while he is sucking a dog dick.
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« Reply #821 on: April 09, 2006, 12:43:00 PM »
I strongly suspect the Brokeback Mountain comment was made by a kid- not a parent.

There ARE other good programs.  I think Swift River is OK.  Oakley is excellent, but less restrictive even than Carlbrook.  Many of the wilderness programs are excellent and have NO record of any abuse.

In this entire thread there have been one or two former Carlbrook students who did not feel that their time there was worthwhile.  The other student posters supported the program strongly. One parent who had a kid there for a very short time and withdrew him felt that it was a waste of money. The rest fully supported the program. There isn't a school out there- therapeutic or otherwise-that works for everyone. There will always be dissatisfied customers. That is a whole different story than whether a program is abusive, out there just to take your money, or unethical.

No program is perfect and the weaknesses of Carlbrook- many of which have been corrected since the school's formation- have been discussed.
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« Reply #822 on: April 09, 2006, 01:24:00 PM »
I looked at all of those programs.  But, I am the poster accused of picking between boot camp and an overseas school.  We had a hard time chosing between Oakley and Carlbrook.  In the end, my son chose Carlbrook because it was closer to home and he wanted, in fact, longed for the structure of Carlbrook.  Also, he already knew a kid at Oakley and wanted a fresh start. Thanks for posting.
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« Reply #823 on: April 09, 2006, 02:08:00 PM »
reading through all this I notice not ONE carlbrook supporter signs in... and it seems like it is just one anon program supporter here really trying hard to make their program look good. it appears less than credible, and their comments about kids needing to be sent back to abusive programs says a lot about them. why dont any carlbrook supporters sign their posts with even an initial or something?? its because it would show there is only one person pretending to be many.... its pretty damn obvious to us anon. that comment about bringing their own army of supporters was laughable.. we are still waiting for more than one anon to show up.  :smokin:
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« Reply #824 on: April 09, 2006, 02:19:00 PM »
If you read the posts you will see that there have been MANY anons posting.  They come and go. Right now there are two or three.  I am not the anon who looked at all the other schools, so there are two of us right now- and perhaps a third.  You have to be kidding when you ask why we don't sign in?  The abuse that is heaped on anyone defending a program speaks for itself.  I will agree that it does get confusing, but if the best you can do to counter positive remarks about Carlbrook is to say, "Well, it's all the same person", that's not too compelling.
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