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« Reply #705 on: April 07, 2006, 02:00:00 PM »
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On 2006-04-07 10:48:00, Anonymous wrote:


"If Carlbook is "in the process", they obviously believe it to be important.  Why FOUR YEARS???????"




All of these schools do the same thing.  They APPLY, but never meet the requirements for accreditation.  It's a marketing tool.  Their only goal is to appear on the list at the accrediting agency's website so parents can see the name there.  Most parents mistakenly believe that because they have applied and are listed on the site, that they are already accredited.



After a certain amount of years (when they're about to be dropped from the list), they reapply.  



The accrediting agency allows this because even schools in the "application phase" still have to pay the regular member fees and some extra ones as well.  For the accrediting agency it's free money.
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That's what I figured but wanted to see if any supporters of Carlbrook can explain, from their POV, why it would take four years and still not be accredited.
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« Reply #706 on: April 07, 2006, 02:01:00 PM »
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"Sometimes it takes that long to hire the amount of faculty it takes to have each and every class the State of Virginia has deemed a requirement.  I don't know what their requirements are but in the three or four states that I have worked in, as an administrator, there were more class requiremnts than pupils to fill the classes in any given term.  In a rural area, at a small school, it is hard to get that accomplished. It's not a blemish on their academics.  The colleges, Universities...and especially the parents that are paying, don't care.



If you want to bash them you might stick to bashing the "program" instead of the fact that they are not academically accredited. It's like cutting off the hand because of a hangnail."


Do they or do they not advertise themselves as an academics only school?
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« Reply #707 on: April 07, 2006, 02:02:00 PM »
Of course not.  They advertise more than that.  You know that.
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« Reply #708 on: April 07, 2006, 02:05:00 PM »
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"Of course not.  They advertise more than that.  You know that."


Yes, they ADVERTISE as a TBS, but they do business with the state as a "school."

Their treatment program is unlicensed by the state.
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« Reply #709 on: April 07, 2006, 02:06:00 PM »
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"Of course not.  They advertise more than that.  You know that."


Why would you assume that?  I know virtually nothing about Carlbrook.
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« Reply #710 on: April 07, 2006, 02:08:00 PM »
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Their treatment program is unlicensed by the state.
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Carlbrook supporters...why are they unlicensed?  

They advertise as a TC to bring in the desperate parents, but do biz w/ the state as a school so they can get around regs of TCs?  Is that fairly accurate?
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« Reply #711 on: April 07, 2006, 02:11:00 PM »
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They advertise as a TC to bring in the desperate parents, but do biz w/ the state as a school so they can get around regs of TCs? Is that fairly accurate?


Bang-on accurate.  That's exactly it.

They are an unlicensed RTC masquerading as an unaccredited boarding school.
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« Reply #712 on: April 07, 2006, 02:13:00 PM »
The Who and Carlbrook supporters...why does Carlbrook advertise to you all as "therapeutic" but isn't licensed as such?  Does this not concern you?
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« Reply #713 on: April 07, 2006, 02:13:00 PM »
They advertise as a boarding school with an emotional growth program.  So what?  That's exactly what they are.  They are not a treatment center. They don't even take kids with serious learning differences.  They are very selective in who they will accept.
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« Reply #714 on: April 07, 2006, 02:15:00 PM »
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"They advertise as a boarding school with an emotional growth program.  So what?  That's exactly what they are.  They are not a treatment center.


So they do not accept kids with drug problems then, correct?
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« Reply #715 on: April 07, 2006, 02:16:00 PM »
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They don't even take kids with serious learning differences.  They are very selective in who they will accept.  "


Who does this selecting?  Who decides whether or not a kid has serious problems or not?
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« Reply #716 on: April 07, 2006, 02:17:00 PM »
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Their treatment program is unlicensed by the state.

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Carlbrook supporters...why are they unlicensed?  



They advertise as a TC to bring in the desperate parents, but do biz w/ the state as a school so they can get around regs of TCs?  Is that fairly accurate?"


The biggest fraud going in the industry. They hold themselves above the law.
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« Reply #717 on: April 07, 2006, 02:18:00 PM »
I don't believe that's accurate but I'll have to do some research.  
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there are plenty of people that support Carlbrook.  Alternatively, there are families that left the school angry.  These parents have the resources, (money and power) to get the place shut down if they had not dotted their "i"s and crossed their "t"s on the TC side.  A good 50% of the Carlbrook parent body is comprised of lawyers.  When a kid has quit school, and then has a chance to go to class and continue his education, the accreditation of the school's academic program means nothing to those parents.  Education is full of bureaucracy.  Save the debate for the therapeutics.
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« Reply #718 on: April 07, 2006, 02:20:00 PM »
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 Save the debate for the therapeutics.  "


OK, why are they not licensed as a TC?
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« Reply #719 on: April 07, 2006, 02:22:00 PM »
I'll have to find out if 1) that's true and 2) why they aren't.  I know more about the academic accreditation mess and was just giving my professional opinion on that.
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