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« Reply #285 on: February 14, 2006, 06:05:00 PM »
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"Is your position really that bad parenting is the reason teens use and sell drugs, wreck cars, ruin their education and act out sexually?


You're assuming that all drug use is bad.  It's not.  You're assuming it's somehow abnormal for them to be 'acting out sexually' (I agree with the other poster, what do you mean by that?), it's not.  

Teenagers to a lot of stupid, reckless and dangerous shit.  Fact of life and a necessary one.  That's how they learn.  All slamming them in some program does is stop that process and inject some false sense of security for the parents, create self-doubt and hostility in the child and $$$$$$$ for the "schools".  As has been said here numerous times the only way to change someone against their will is to break them first.  That's another fact.  Once broken some may never be able to 'fix' it.  It's a sad legacy to be left with.
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« Reply #286 on: February 14, 2006, 06:46:00 PM »
By acting out sexually I meant promiscuous and/or risky behavior. While some drug experimentation might be normal, it is illegal and can be very harmful. It can also get you kicked out of school. Selling drugs has more severe consequences. I think a lot of you on this board started from a different baseline than did my son and many of his classmates at Carlbrook. These kids were top students and, in many cases, athletes who had a lot invested in their futures. Their goal wasn't to get a GED and go flip burgers. When you start seeing complete disregard of the law, school rules and family, you start to wonder what is going on. When there is destruction of property and risk of serious injury, you realize that the heart to heart talks and local therapy sessions aren't doing the trick.
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« Reply #287 on: February 14, 2006, 07:19:00 PM »
A fundamental newsflash is in order here:

Every generation of teenagers rebel against the old ways of their ancestors



The 20's had Flappers
The 30's had Bootleggers (who were adults, mostly!)
I can't remember the 40's rebels
The 50's had Beatniks
The 60's had Hippies
The 70's had Hippies with kids and Disco Fever types... whose kids would become teenagers and find new ways of pissing off the fuddy-duddies.

It's funny how our ancestors grew into responsible adults (for the most part) in a time where there were none of these places.

Here's an interesting fact for you:

AA has a 5% success rate
Alcoholics who quit on their own have a 5% success rate.

Who's more successful?

It was some of those free-spirit parents who were beatniks and hippies, who fell in with the burguoisese of the eighties, who farmed their kid(s) off to the Program Du Jour in order to keep up appearances in the neighborhood.  

"Oh my God!  The neighbors will think I'm a bad parent!"  So, off goes the kid, the neighbors shower the parents with "Support" (a form of Munchausen's, as far as I'm concerned, but that's another topic), and the kid learns how to "behave" in a way that's expected in a world of gated communities and cookie cutter houses.

It's not about the kids, it's about the parents.

Never in the history of any nation has an education system been so on the point of disintegration and decay as the education system in this country...We know that education in this country is as bad as it can be.  We know that it is old-fashioned, irrelevant, and not meaningful.
--U.S. Senator Abraham A. Ribicoff, 1970

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« Reply #288 on: February 14, 2006, 07:27:00 PM »
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I think a lot of you on this board started from a different baseline than did my son and many of his classmates at Carlbrook.


 :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:
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« Reply #289 on: February 15, 2006, 08:12:00 AM »
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On 2006-02-14 15:46:00, Anonymous wrote:

"By acting out sexually I meant promiscuous and/or risky behavior. While some drug experimentation might be normal, it is illegal and can be very harmful. It can also get you kicked out of school. Selling drugs has more severe consequences. I think a lot of you on this board started from a different baseline than did my son and many of his classmates at Carlbrook. These kids were top students and, in many cases, athletes who had a lot invested in their futures. Their goal wasn't to get a GED and go flip burgers. When you start seeing complete disregard of the law, school rules and family, you start to wonder what is going on. When there is destruction of property and risk of serious injury, you realize that the heart to heart talks and local therapy sessions aren't doing the trick. "


Yes I agree. Now kids get arrested for smoking pot. When I got caught in sixth grade, my teacher made me join the Scouts. In eighth grade, I was given five days detention. No one ever said or thought that I was on the road to ruin. I smoked pot occasionally, got drunk a few times, and had sex. Everyone did, or at least it seemed that way. I was also an honor roll student, a varsity athelete and competed in the Junior Olympics. There was never a doubt that I was college bound. I was a kid in the 1970s.

How many times have you heard the remark by adults around the office water cooler to the effect of, 'It's a wonder any of us made it through our teens?' I have, several times. We all engaged in risky behavior.

What amazes me is that the same people who grew up in the 1970s (the let it all hang out generation) are now the zero tolerance idiots of today. What happened to these people? Did the drugs really fry their brains?

Anyway, I think your comment about a different baseline is either a gross misperception or a baseless insult.
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« Reply #290 on: February 15, 2006, 08:52:00 AM »
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Anyway, I think your comment about a different baseline is either a gross misperception or a baseless insult.


Also... a huge case of arrogance, accompanied by a great deal of fear, money and ignorance. That's the recipe for a program parent. Simply cook at 420 degrees for  three days in a seminar, and you have a fully baked programmie!
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« Reply #291 on: February 15, 2006, 11:04:00 AM »
I've just read through this blog for this first time.  I have a child just getting ready to graduate from Carlbrook.  She thanks me for sending her there.  She doesn't feel brainwashed or abused.  She's been accepted to several colleges and is thankful for a second chance.  I guess I'm a lucky parent.  I don't have to contend with whiny, snivelling thieves that not only steal money but steal the hearts out of their parents as well.  When all of you become parents and you "fuck it up", I hope you'll remeber your arrogance and ignorance.  Good luck.
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« Reply #292 on: February 15, 2006, 11:13:00 AM »
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On 2006-02-15 08:04:00, Anonymous wrote:

"I've just read through this blog for this first time.  I have a child just getting ready to graduate from Carlbrook.  She thanks me for sending her there.  She doesn't feel brainwashed or abused.  She's been accepted to several colleges and is thankful for a second chance.  I guess I'm a lucky parent.  I don't have to contend with whiny, snivelling thieves that not only steal money but steal the hearts out of their parents as well.  When all of you become parents and you "fuck it up", I hope you'll remeber your arrogance and ignorance.  Good luck."


Shut up, dope.  Just because YOUR kid says "thanks mom" then everyone else is ignorant and arrogant?  What an absolutely stupid premise.

Also, what do you THINK your daughter, who you had incarcerated, is going to say?  "Mom, this place is bullshit and did nothing for me"?  Not unless she wants to stay longer (until she "works the program") or get shipped off to wilderness or worse.  Lady, your kids is NEVER going to trust you again and her little lies about her appreciation of the program are just to mollify you so she doesn't get hit again.
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« Reply #293 on: February 15, 2006, 11:29:00 AM »
You need help.  You are an angry person.  I think maybe you can't move away from your computer.  Is your computer your life?  Are you addicted to blogging or do you just enjoy being a consummate asshole? Did anybody enjoy your company last night or did you eat your dinner in the light of your screen? Get a life.
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« Reply #294 on: February 15, 2006, 11:31:00 AM »
O, and by the way, my "kid" is 19 and had the option to leave.
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« Reply #295 on: February 15, 2006, 12:48:00 PM »
Fixed it for ya...

I've just read through this blog for this first time.  I have a child just getting ready to graduate from Carlbrook.  She hates me for sending her there.  She feels brainwashed and abused.  She's been denied entry to several colleges and will probably hate us forever.  I guess I'm a bad parent.  Thank God I don't have to contend with whiny, snivelling thieves that not only steal money but steal the hearts out of their parents as well -- my daughter isn't here!  When all of you become parents and you "fuck it up", I hope you'll remeber your arrogance and ignorance.  Good luck.
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« Reply #296 on: February 15, 2006, 12:51:00 PM »
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I don't have to contend with whiny, snivelling thieves that not only steal money but steal the hearts out of their parents as well.


GOD DAMN - I feel sorry for your kid. I pray they makes it out of your orbit in good mental health. GEESH - what that poor kid had to deal with all these years.  ::noway::  ::noway::  ::noway::
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« Reply #297 on: February 15, 2006, 12:53:00 PM »
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On 2006-02-15 08:29:00, Anonymous wrote:

"You need help.  You are an angry person.  I think maybe you can't move away from your computer.  Is your computer your life?  Are you addicted to blogging or do you just enjoy being a consummate asshole? Did anybody enjoy your company last night or did you eat your dinner in the light of your screen? Get a life. "


I guess if you are singularly unable to rebut the content of the post, just go for the crotch.  This is the typical ad hominem response of the ignorant.
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« Reply #298 on: February 15, 2006, 12:55:00 PM »
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"O, and by the way, my "kid" is 19 and had the option to leave."


A nineteen year old still in high school?  Wow.

What "option" are you talking about?  Are you talking about "Of course you can leave if you don't like it there.  We'll be here for you when you get home." Or are you talking about the "If you leave, don't bother coming home" option?

Somehow, I get the feeling of the latter.
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« Reply #299 on: February 15, 2006, 01:02:00 PM »
I think possibly it's your own crotch you go for when you're getting off attacking people.
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