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Re: Carlbrook
« Reply #2610 on: March 30, 2009, 04:08:39 PM »
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Wow.  this is a big handbook.   Notes as I read (sort of skimming it here)

Section 2.1:

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Students will respect and honor the confidentiality of other students, families and
faculty.

And faculty?  So this means the kids can't talk about things the staff do?  Red flag there.

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Students will not discuss workshop experiences or workshop tools with other students
who have not been through the workshop.

Which implies students go into these LGAT workshops without informed consent.  This is the main problem I have with the workshops.  If people knew exactly what they were getting into, I would have no problem.  The thing is that the workshops wouldnt' be nearly as "effective" in changing people without their knowledge or consent if people knew what to expect.  There is also the issue of hypnosis and closed-eye guided imagery being reportedly used.  Powerful tools that should only really be in the hands of professional psychologists (if anybody)...

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Students will refrain from sexual or intimate activities with others.

This is fairly flexible.  I can see "initmate" as having quite a wide interpretation.  At teh CEDU based program I was in "intimacy" could be a close friendship.

Section 2.3:

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Students will abide by the School’s guidelines regarding confidential information
involving other students, families and faculty.

They state it twice!

Section 2.5:

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• All students are expected to actively participate in and benefit from group sessions.

Group sessions?  is that kind of like group therapy, but not calling it that to get around licensing requirements?

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• Students should make group requests regularly demonstrating an interest in the lives
and work of their fellow students as well as a means of taking responsibility for the
community as a whole.

This deserves a translation.  Group requests were called Rap requests at Benchamrk, and I imagine the same at CEDU.  You were expected to write what you wanted to talk about (somebody's problem, confront somebody, etc), and staff would select your requests from the stack of lists.

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Student communication should be supportive, positive and reflect constructive
criticism. Caustic, sarcastic, insulting, demeaning, threatening, abusive comments or
behavior are not acceptable methods of expression.

That may be true, but i'm sure "brutal honesty" is permitted, which is often indistinguishable from the above to the target.

Absolute confidentiality for kids (they can't talk about stuff), but staff can tell the parents anything about what happens in group... nice policy. I'm sure it makes the kids real open knowing everything they say can be reported back to their parents...

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Advisors may share what occurred in group with their colleagues, as well as with
parents, as deemed necessary and appropriate.

Section 2.9:

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Movies and music that are not compatible with the general standards of the School (i.e.
those that are excessively discordant due to content that is overtly sexual, violent, drug-
oriented, anarchist, depressive, etc.) are considered unacceptable forms of
entertainment.    
• The School will provide all media (including movies, music, and reference and utility
media), and only such media provided by the School may be possessed or used on school property.

...

Due to the unpredictability of content played, radio is an unacceptable form of media.

...

• All music that is to be played for a Last Light must be approved by the student’s
Advisor prior to asking permission from the Floor Coordinator.

Political content, sad music...  all off limits.  I see.  Only group approved information.  

Section 2.19
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• Students will be allowed to call their parents at predetermined times with faculty
supervision and support.

No surprise there.

Section 2.21

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• Students may not be exposed to any of the elements that influenced his/her
enrollment to Carlbrook School (clothing, music, jewelry, make-up, smoking,
etc.).

I see.  That's something to reflect on.  So basically anything having to do with an identity prior to carlbrook is "bad". And yet thy simultaneously say they're tryin to teach kids to be independent thinking and so forth.

more from 2.21:

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• Students may not have contact with old friends from home at any point during
the visit (no phone calls, letters from old girlfriends/ boyfriends, pictures, etc.).
• Students may not call/contact any current or former Carlbrook students during
the visit.
• Parents have the right to end the visit at any point if they feel their student is
being disrespectful or dishonest.
• Students must be with a family member at all times except for short breaks.
• Students must stay on campus (see first and second on-campus visit standards
for specifics).
• No clothing, food or gifts (personal hygiene products, music/ movies, etc.) may
be given to students during the visit.  Clothing requests must be discussed with
the student’s Advisor, and if approved should be mailed directly to the School.  
Items given to students during the visit will be sent home.  
• The use of personal electronic devices is prohibited during visits (“personal
electronic devices” from here on refers to mobile phones, all forms of music
players, handheld and stationary gaming systems and any new technology not
mentioned that involves music, movies, games, photos etc.).
• Students must have an adult family member present when listening to music or
watching a movie.  

And those are the rules for *on campus* visits.

2.21e:

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First visit only: Students will go through their room or personal space with their
parent(s) before they go to bed the first night.  They must discard items that
represent their old lifestyle.  They must choose one item that is the most difficult
to discard and send it directly to the School (labeled with their name and their
Advisor’s name) to the attention of Sandi Hughes in the Advising Department.

also

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• Students will conduct themselves in a manner that is representative of their
Truth at all times.
(italics in original)

Of course this only makes sense once someobody goes through Truth.  Castle can explain more about this.

I'll go through more in a bit.  Very interesting reading.


So are people kept against their will at this place? Whats the deal?
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Re: Carlbrook
« Reply #2611 on: March 30, 2009, 08:15:27 PM »
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So are people kept against their will at this place? Whats the deal?

A CB survivor in another thread spoke to this, but I can't remember which thread it is. It sounded identical to the line they gave us at CEDU, and I believe I even commented on it in that thread.

A student was held hostage through intimidation and mind-fucking. Do you want to leave? Fine, go ahead. There are no walls here. There are no gates or fences. Of course, where will you go? You're out in the middle of nowhere. You might get raped by a trucker. (as one kid actually did, and the staff milked that event for all it was worth, often in the presence of the victim)

If someone did split, and they weren't 18, they'd send the van out after you to pick you up. Blownaway (who has his splitting story in the CEDU section of this site) talks about his ordeal when he split, trying to keep to the backwoods so he wouldn't be apprehended by staff. He caught the search vans going by several times looking for him.

If you were lucky enough to make it into town (Bonners Ferry), normally the sheriff would snag you and bring you back to campus.

...that is, until he was allowed to sit in on a rap. After that experience, he said he would never send a kid back there again, and as far as I know, he never did. (Blownaway became friends with him, I believe.)

Now, I am fairly certain that CEDU was pretty much required to do this, since they were temporary custodians for all students, (even though they weren't legal guardians) and if the student was underage, they were therefore responsible, since if we got lost, they would get an earful of "wtf did you do with my kid" from the parents. So, I don't exactly take issue with the fact that they wanted to come looking for you. However, the circumstances regarding why students left, and the taunting that often preceded (or tried to dissuade) a splitting was more than just a little bit toxic. There was also mixed motivation in finding said child, since fear of a liability lawsuit held just as much weight as concern for the kid's welfare. (of course, their welfare wasnt exactly considered once they got back)

And then of course, the consequences weren't exactly much better, and obviously was also used as a deterrent.

When kids were brought back they were subjected to any number of different kinds of restrictions. Normally splitting meant either getting on a full-time or going down to survival school in southern Idaho, which was a major suckfest. By the time you got back from survival, you were happy to be at RMA, since at least there, they had fun things like heat and food and showers. blownaway spoke about how thrilled he was to be back from survival, simply because he was starving. I witnessed several kids come back from there. All of them had lost a considerable amount of weight, many were covered with infected insect bites (unless it was in the winter), and most of them had parasites. (giardia)  I actually had an expedition down in that same area, and drinking that water without boiling it first will get you hellishly sick. If you were dehydrated and couldn't wait to build a fire to boil it (building fires in survival, btw, required using a bow drill) you'd get the parasite. Our expedition was lucky because we were allowed iodine tablets, but on survival, it all has to be boiled.

So.. there was nothing that was physically keeping us on the grounds. However, if we were underage, and we left... that was when shit went down.

Most of us felt a large sense of futility in even trying, since the location was so remote. The walk to town was maybe a one to two hour trek if you kept to the roads, which normally meant that you would eventually get picked up. A couple of guys in my peer group got as far as the Canadian border by hitching a ride in a boxcar, which is pretty fucking dangerous, especially if you value your legs.

CEDU running springs was even worse. You could see the city lights from campus, but the trek down the deceptively hikeable hill was actually quite treacherous. It kind of reminds me of alcatraz. You could see SF and it seemed sooo easy to cross... until you got in that freezing motherfucking cold water, and had to deal with currents that were a hell of a lot stronger than they looked.

An upper school student who was of age split while I was in Voyageurs, and a friend in his peer group walked him out. They had a last light about it, (i.e. the daily before bedtime thingy) and his friend was saying how he was just sick of it and decided to go. He was allowed to, of course, because he was an adult, so that was his last day there, basically. At that time (I dont know if it changed) CEDU was not like WWASPS in terms of lying to kids telling them that their parents had gotten extended custody, or getting the parents to not take their kid back, so he/she had nowhere to go after splitting. If you were 18 or older, you could physically leave the campus without fear that they would come after you. As far as I know, anyway.
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Re: Carlbrook
« Reply #2612 on: March 30, 2009, 08:31:50 PM »
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...that is, until he was allowed to sit in on a rap. After that experience, he said he would never send a kid back there again, and as far as I know, he never did. (Blownaway became friends with him, I believe.)

I'd love to be able to interview that sherrif.
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Re: Carlbrook
« Reply #2613 on: March 30, 2009, 08:37:00 PM »
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...that is, until he was allowed to sit in on a rap. After that experience, he said he would never send a kid back there again, and as far as I know, he never did. (Blownaway became friends with him, I believe.)

I'd love to be able to interview that sherrif.

I honestly can't remember his name. Idaho obviously knows it, and said that he still is sheriff up there, so I'd recommend PMing or emailing him and asking.
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Re: Carlbrook
« Reply #2614 on: April 01, 2009, 03:26:36 PM »
My son was taken in January to SNWP in Georgia.  My ex is picking him up today and transporting him to Carlbrook. (I wasn't invited because I disagreed with the treatment there)  I am in desparate need of info regarding Tim Brace, R. Grant Price, etc. The last letter from my son to myself one to his girlfriend was that he would see us regularly and that she could visit with me (per his counselor at SNWP)  So not true per the handbook that I was able to print off regarding this school.  Because I disagreed with the program  at SNWP (his therapist) he basically threatened me by saying this is going in my report to the court that I was uncooperative etc.  My ex is an attorney and his family have practiced in this town for years so it's like the old boy network.  So I need real info to go to court with!!!.  Thanks
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Re: Carlbrook
« Reply #2615 on: April 01, 2009, 06:01:11 PM »
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My son was taken in January to SNWP in Georgia.  My ex is picking him up today and transporting him to Carlbrook. (I wasn't invited because I disagreed with the treatment there)  I am in desparate need of info regarding Tim Brace, R. Grant Price, etc. The last letter from my son to myself one to his girlfriend was that he would see us regularly and that she could visit with me (per his counselor at SNWP)  So not true per the handbook that I was able to print off regarding this school.  Because I disagreed with the program  at SNWP (his therapist) he basically threatened me by saying this is going in my report to the court that I was uncooperative etc.  My ex is an attorney and his family have practiced in this town for years so it's like the old boy network.  So I need real info to go to court with!!!.  Thanks

TIM BRACE has tortured and murdered many. google his name. The man is very ,very evil. Many will be willing to speak to you about their experience at CEDU.

 Sign in under a user name so people can contact you. Be aware that cult disciples may try to contact you to get sensitive personal info to hurt you and your son, so be careful with the info you give out.

On the other hand, don’t worry about keeping your identity secret in public. People who have been successfully in rescused detainees from the American torture and thought refrom gulags have done so by drawing attention to its vcitims' torment. Consider posting your sons name, your husbands, and this "counslor's" name every place you can manage it. Go to everyone you think might help. Including the media, with survivor accounts.

These torture chambers are criminal and get away with their crimes only through pay offs and by targeting helpless children mostly sired by abusive parents who want their kids violated--they fold under  public scrutiny.
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Re: Carlbrook
« Reply #2616 on: April 01, 2009, 10:55:23 PM »
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My son was taken in January to SNWP in Georgia.  My ex is picking him up today and transporting him to Carlbrook. (I wasn't invited because I disagreed with the treatment there)  I am in desparate need of info regarding Tim Brace, R. Grant Price, etc. The last letter from my son to myself one to his girlfriend was that he would see us regularly and that she could visit with me (per his counselor at SNWP)  So not true per the handbook that I was able to print off regarding this school.  Because I disagreed with the program  at SNWP (his therapist) he basically threatened me by saying this is going in my report to the court that I was uncooperative etc.  My ex is an attorney and his family have practiced in this town for years so it's like the old boy network.  So I need real info to go to court with!!!.  Thanks
Not legal advice:

It seems you're in a difficult situation.  Even if you were able to show that Tim did bad things at CEDU, you would have to get admissible evidence of it (sworn statements, etc) to use it in court.  You'd also probably have to show he has done similar things at CB and that his school is run in a similar harmful manner to CEDU.  If he's like most program directors, hell say "yes, CEDU was bad, but we changed the bad aspects and kept the good" (they're never real specific about that).  It's hard to disprove that objectively in court, even if you know it to be true.

Your best bet might be to put a shout out for CB survivors and ask if any are willing to sign sworn declarations in support of your case to help get your son out of the program. They exist (some have contacted me privately), but whether they want to speak out publicly is some convincing that you'll have to do.  Convincing a person to go on record and put their full name in court papers (especially documenting a stay at a program) is not easy to do.  Nobody wants to have the stigma of even having been at one of these places.

I think you're going about this in the wrong way.  You're trying to get your son out of the program through legal action when you can, instead, put pressure on the program with all your resources until they bend to your will.  Be a pain in the ass to them.  Check their staff qualifications (look them up), and if they're not licensed, and they claim to be, but are still practicing therapy.. report them to the appropriate authorities (and publicize it).  Set up a website on Carlbrook (I can help you with this).  You might even put the program under in this process, in which case... well, that's one way to get your kid out.
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Re: Carlbrook
« Reply #2617 on: April 02, 2009, 01:31:30 AM »
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I know why these parents are so angry, I was ripped off just like they were. My son is now slightly older, and some has time has passed since his time in Carlbrook when he was seventeen. This parent supporting Carlbrook could have been me a short while ago, I believed it all too. We aren't evil people, believe that or not, we were just taken in by corrupt people wanting to make a quick buck off the backs of scared and ignorant parents. My son is now doing well in college, but only after he received proper treatment and therapy for his time at Carlbrook. He tell us now we wasted our money and it was a complete waste of time, and he had a horrible time. We still don't talk about it much, hopefully one day he can tell me everything. When I bring the subject up he gets angry so I let it go right now. I hope this can get better over the years. I apologize daily for my mistakes and hope he knows that I mean it. I found this forum by searching on Google and it is a great resource from what I can see. I've met other program parents and the posts here don't surprise me. We aren't all "tricked" into sending our child away with good intentions. Some parents just want to get rid of the child, it was sad to see that is the case sometimes. But this was not the case with my son. If you care about your child find an alternative to this place, it will only bring you problems in the future. Not to mention the college funds we wasted, now my husband had to go back to work and we all regret our ill fated decision. Once we got into family therapy and let him take responsibility for his life, well we really had no choice since he turned eighteen, things changed for the better. Once we stopped trying to control him and mold him into our ideal child things started to change for the better. Sending him away did nothing. If you have any questions for me or want to know more about my own experience please email me at JosephineGaulder@netscape.net Thank you for your time and for the opportunity for me to say this.

Parent, i recomend the opposite of what Psy recomends.

Get lawyers involved NOW go to the media with your ordeal. This has been the way of all parents sucessful with removing their kids from hell have done it. Here is someone who will no doubt speak out for you. I'll bump some other posts for you too.

Anyway info is power, so I recomend buying a google sponsered link that pops up for CEDU, CARLBROOK, Tim Brace, and the other programs head staff was invovled in asking for info about the place as a mom whose kid was sent their against his and her will and is currently imprisonen therein.

Also contact ISAC, CAFETY, CAICA, HEAL four agencies that specialize in rescuing people held in captivity in the name of therapy.
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Re: Carlbrook
« Reply #2618 on: April 02, 2009, 01:38:54 AM »
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On 2006-02-17 16:59:00, Anonymous wrote:

"Anonymous poster who doubts my existence: I just looked in the mirror, and yes, I am real. No, I did not think I was sending him to "golf camp", I thought I was sending him to an environment that fosters "intellectual, social, and personal development" as Carlbrook  told me. You might have viewed it as a punishment I did not. My mistake. I came here to share my own experience and I find your rudeness and dismissiveness rather ironic considering your warnings earlier. Nobody else has been rude to me other than you. I suggest you take a look at your own actions before condemning everyone else. -Joe"

Hey, Joe.  Thank you for sharing your experience with Carlbrook on the board.  What you are saying does not surprise me in the least.

Your observation about this anon Carlbrook supporter is spot on.  S/he came on here and began to rudely insult everyone in a "preemptive" fashion.  This is typical of control-freak types that can't stand to have alternative viewpoints expressed.

That being said, people like Her/him support the program blindly.  They have taken a leap of faith and have discarded the scientific method entirely.  As I have explained before, these type of programs are not the "latest and greatest," but rather are the dredged up, cobbled-together pieces of behavioral science and psychotherapy that the professional mental health society had debunked and cast aside decades ago.  Carlbrook is doing nothing more than rehashing the obvious mistakes of treatment modalities long dead and buried by scientific method and clinical study.  The facts are that Carlbrook's methods have been debunked, proven ineffective and shown to cause damage to the developing mind for DECADES.

To reiterate: There is NOT ONE SINGLE SOLITARY CLINICAL STUDY THAT SUPPORTS THIS TYPE OF TREATMENT.  Yet there are several dozens of clinical studies that show this methodology causes DAMAGE such as PTSD (just to name one).

So, what we are dealing with here, Joe, is people who refuse to look at proven fact so that they may retreat into "good feelings" doled out by the folks that fleeced them out of their money and hurt their children.  These are the same type of people who believe in "Intelligent Design."  They will cast aside proven fact and embrace insane concepts, so long as they can feel "right" about it in the end.

Welcome to the board and please don't be discouraged by crackpots and flamers.  Any intelligent, fact and reality based assessment of the precioous program will be met with extreme hostility and ad hominem attacks.  It comes with the territory.
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Re: Carlbrook
« Reply #2619 on: April 02, 2009, 01:44:24 AM »
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Parent, i recomend the opposite of what Psy recomends.

Or do both... and definitely contact media/or and ISACcorp as the guest suggests.  All I'm saying is not to limit yourself to the courts exclusively.  There is also the court of public opinion.
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Re: Carlbrook
« Reply #2620 on: April 02, 2009, 01:53:16 AM »
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http://fornits.com/wwf/viewtopic.php?topic=14295&forum=9&start=0#178186


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It seems there is a big change at Carlbrook - going to be more like at RTU than a prep school. Seems they have lost control and the inmates have started running the asylum. They have started this program called "In School Suspension" where the kids are isolated and not allowed to attend class, but their classwork is brought to them - they are supervised by a Security Staff not Advisors. Sounds like that like all these programs they have a 3 - 4 year honeymoon and then the shit hits the fan.

Alot of kids have been sent home or back to the Wilderness - also seems to be an increase in the attempted escapes.

LGA works for some but not for all - hope they all have made lots of money!


Hmmm..

Isn't there's a poster called KAreninDAllas, who used to be pro-carlbrook and than realized it was a cult that abused her kid? she'd speak out against i think
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Re: Carlbrook
« Reply #2621 on: April 02, 2009, 01:58:37 AM »
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More disturbing information about Carlbrook surfaces...  As if having Tim Brace running the show weren't enough, this was posted on another thread:

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I have been reading the feedback from all the posters about the pro's and con's of Carlbrook.
The foundation every program is built on, is the credibility of the owners and employees of the program, regardless of the type of program. The first person on the list of key people for Carlbrook is Dr. Glenn Bender. He states on his resume he has 25 years experience as an educator and employee of a number of programs and schools.
Dr. Bender seems to have forgotten his place of employment just before Carlbrook. From 1999 until he started at Carlbrook, Dr. Bender was the Director of Admissions and Marketing at Alldredge Academy in Davis,West Virginia. In Feb 2001 a child died at Alldredge Academy. One year later, Alldredge Academy pleaded guilty to "Child neglect resulting in death". Dr Bender was the primary recruiter of that childs family. He assured the family that Alldredge Academy was a safe and appropriate placement for a child with depression yet when the child died as a result of depression, Dr. Bender seemed to disappear. I can understand why Dr. Bender would not want to list an employer with a criminal conviction on his resume, considering he was a major player in the crime. In every field, weather it is academics or business, falsifying a resume is a serious breach of ethics usually resulting in dismissal. Did the other principals of Carlbrook not know or not care? In either event this creates a credibility issue and calls into question the honesty of the entire program.

IMO this doesn't "call into question" the credibility of Carlbrook, they already have none.  This just proves what everyone else has been saying.  It just takes a little time for all of the REAL information to come out.  It took eleven years for HLA's past to catch up and they're going through a REMARKABLE unravelling that will more than likely end up with charges of fraud and financial/ethical impropriety.

For everyone who was mistreated at Carlbrook, keep speaking out until the truth becomes self-evident.

maybe some people from Alldredge Academy, perhaps the parents of the kid it murdered, can help you
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Re: Carlbrook
« Reply #2622 on: April 02, 2009, 02:05:10 AM »
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Well, it goes to show that they hire the trash thrown out by other facilities.  That can't be good.

Anyway...

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The presence of Glenn Bender on campus, while a waste of resources, means absolutely nothing as far as whether the program is sound and kids benefit from it.

Can you show any studies that DO show the program works?  I'm interested in ANY clinical documentation that exists about the efficacy of Carlbrook's "program."  Surely you can quote some or provide references to them, right?

If not, are we left to just taking your word for it that it works?

That theres no clinical proof that carlbrook does anything but hurt kids is in your favor.
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Re: Carlbrook
« Reply #2623 on: April 02, 2009, 02:41:23 AM »
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So I think someone just mentioned me way back on page 2; I was "that kid" who requested to be sent to the woods in the middle of the winter. Weird.
   Yeah, I went back to the woods, because they said if I did then I wouldn't have my graduation moved back (kept there for several extra months) because of the trouble I got myself into. They also said that I'd only be there (in the woods) for 2 weeks, so I wouldn't miss the last workshop (or seminar, for those who have attended different programs where that's the nomenclature preferred).
   So that deal looked pretty good, and went off to the freezing Colorado wilderness, where I was informed after an extra 3 weeks that no, I couldn't graduate on time, as had been promised, and that I'd have to stick out another 6 months.
   I was, at that point, heartbroken because all of the closest friends I'd ever had (one of the arguably few good things that comes out of Carlbrook and --I'm surmising-- its sister programs) would be graduating without me. So I said I wasn't willing to do that and went to go to California to finish highschool and live with my grandparents. It might just be the Stockholm-syndrome speaking, but it's probably the only real regret I have.
   And yeah, I relapsed, and my use was far, far worse than it had been before Carlbrook/the two wilderness programs, but I eventually decided that enough was enough and went and got some 12-step help. I definitely have less in the way of criticism for those programs than I do the emotional-growth regimes, although one does notably need an internal desire to make them work.
   Anyway, there's a nice ramble. I'm sure I'll read more and think of stuff I wish I'd said. I'd love to hear from anyone with any opinion- my email is bensturgess@hotmail.com, my AIM is BSturgess1985
   Peace,
Sturge

this kid might help you
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Re: Carlbrook
« Reply #2624 on: April 02, 2009, 02:42:24 AM »
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So I did a little of the reading suggested by one disgruntled ex-student of some abusive program somewhere, (http://perso.wanadoo.fr/eldon.braun/awa ... hology.htm) and not only did I take a long trip down memory lane, I also am now reconsidering what was left of the 'positive' experiences I had at Carlbrook; namely, the workshops. I don't really know what to think now, although that paper certainly lines up with the opinions of most of the shrinks I've talked to since leaving the 'Brook.
   Any parent curious about the methods that the school uses in the scant-discussed workshops, as well as any grad who wants to really fuck up their Carlbrook experience and take a nice dose of vitamin C (for cynicism) should read that.
   -Sturge
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