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Offline Anonymous

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« on: July 25, 2005, 08:44:00 PM »
http://www.anti-wwasp.tk - Forums just started but basic content is all there. New website to let people who feel wronged by WWASP or one of it's programs have an outlet to discuss it all. Also offering news, selected articles, and moderated forums.
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« Reply #1 on: July 25, 2005, 11:50:00 PM »
if you want to add these pictures of spring creek lodge here are a couple







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« Reply #2 on: July 26, 2005, 01:14:00 AM »
Thanks for the images, they aren't copyrighted or anything then and you own these images? I have received tons of positive encouragement from this forum which I must say is refreshing.
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« Reply #3 on: July 26, 2005, 11:31:00 PM »
Im not sure about the copyright, I think they are from another anti-wwasp type website.
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« Reply #4 on: July 27, 2005, 12:55:00 AM »
I think they are from Spring Creek Lodge - a wwasp program in Montana. The punishment cell
pictured is called the hobbit.

Still, if you will not fight for the right when you can easily win without bloodshed; if you will not fight when your victory will be sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves.
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« Reply #5 on: July 27, 2005, 06:38:00 PM »
Well I definitely know where those pictures came from (not to be an ass) because I attended spring creek for 12 months, but I need to know whether you own the photos or at least where they came from to be able to use them on my site. I don't steal copyrighted materials or other's property for my own purposes. -kev
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« Reply #6 on: July 27, 2005, 07:15:00 PM »
The one at the top of the Hobbit is a personal photograph, not copy righted as far as I know. Its up various places on the web.
The others I am pretty sure come from the Desperate Measures articles. I don't know that that means they are copy righted - I don't think so.
I don't think there is any reason you couldn't use them if you want.

heres a link to the articles:

http://denver.rockymountainnews.com/des ... t-pg.shtml

There is a lot of material here so click around.
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« Reply #7 on: July 27, 2005, 11:28:00 PM »
Photos used by publications like rocky mountain news are copyrighted.

Perhaps it would be a good idea for you write to the editor and ask for permission to use the photos.  Identify yourself, the purpose of your website and/as use of the requested copyright materials.

Usually they will grant permission (e.g.the photos you use would say "Used by Permission of the Rocky Mountain News").

Sometimes, especially in the case of free-lance photographers, the copyright is retained by the photographer, other times sold with the picture to the publication.

Hope this helps!
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« Reply #8 on: July 28, 2005, 04:43:00 AM »

Juu-ju time boys and girls. That hold is a joke. Thats just asking for a blind leg sweep, a hip toss (which would be sooo easy, just quickly stand up and torque your body to the right while pulling your left elbow back, get your arm around his neck and base out, pivot and toss him over and land on top  :grin:

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DannyB on the internet:I CALLED A LAWYER TODAY TO SEE IF I COULD SUE YOUR ASSES FOR DOING THIS BUT THAT WAS NOT POSSIBLE.

CCMGirl on program restraints: "DON\'T TAZ ME BRO!!!!!"

TheWho on program survivors: "From where I sit I see all the anit-program[sic] people doing all the complaining and crying."

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« Reply #9 on: July 28, 2005, 08:55:00 AM »
That really cant be a hold. I mean the guy has a free arm. Is it a hold Nihilanthic? You would know better than me. It more seems like a older guy escorting a younger guy around. That hold just seems to easy to get out of, even though I dont know Judo, I do know that a free hand while your holding some one, is not something you want.
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our walking down a hallway, you turn left, you turn right. BRICK WALL!

GAH!!!!

Yeah, hes a survivor.

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« Reply #10 on: July 28, 2005, 10:32:00 AM »
It is Cameron Pullman showing the news crew how he safely restrains a child until they calm down. I can tell you, after witnessing with my own eyes, this is not even close to how it's done. They radio 4-5 big male staff to come and sit on you with your arm behind your back, it's very painful. A submission hold is what they use, not restraint.
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« Reply #11 on: July 28, 2005, 10:32:00 AM »
Cameron was probably enjoying being behind him like that.  :rofl:
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« Reply #12 on: July 28, 2005, 09:41:00 PM »
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It is Cameron Pullman showing the news crew how he safely restrains a child until they calm down. I can tell you, after witnessing with my own eyes, this is not even close to how it's done. They radio 4-5 big male staff to come and sit on you with your arm behind your back, it's very painful. A submission hold is what they use, not restraint.


Thats not a restraint, I mean come on, if a kid was freaking out and some one grabed him he would hit him with everything he had, including his head. So a free arm is not a good thing I would think. Is it not obvious to the reporter taking the picture that its a load of shit?
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our walking down a hallway, you turn left, you turn right. BRICK WALL!

GAH!!!!

Yeah, hes a survivor.

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« Reply #13 on: August 04, 2005, 02:03:00 PM »
I made some layout changes and added some new graphics at http://www.anti-wwasp.tk and a couple new user submitted articles. The forums over there are still fresh and just asking to be torn up with some posts, so get over there and say something.

Also I am currently looking for pictures that anyone own's themselves and that would be interested in contributing to the site. I really have a lack of real portrayals of these facilities. If you have any images of WWASP related facilities please post them here or send them to (antiwwasp@gmail.com) thanks.
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« Reply #14 on: August 04, 2005, 06:09:00 PM »
I think there are some photos of Tranquility Bay over at isaccorp.org.

Otherwise, look into news archives to try to find photos.
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