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« Reply #300 on: August 02, 2005, 04:06:00 PM »
I think its going nowhere. An admission is not forthcoming.
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« Reply #301 on: August 02, 2005, 04:31:00 PM »
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On 2005-08-02 10:30:00, Anonymous wrote:

"Fornits and "Intelligent Debate" is an oxymoron."


I get a kick out of stupid people calling others stupid.  You sure you're an attorney?  Must settle a lot of cases, huh?  Any trial with you at the helm would be a serious gamble for your client...


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« Reply #302 on: August 02, 2005, 04:54:00 PM »
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On 2005-08-02 11:13:00, Anonymous wrote:

"Are you trying to say that Carlbrook and Swift River are bad, abusive programs? Yes, Carlbrook requires wilderness prior to enrollment. It does not have to be SUWS.  Hidden Lake has its own captive wilderness program.  These schools have strong academics, excellent therapists and are well-run and safe. Are there imperfections with the programs?  Sure.  Show me a school- any kind of school- that is perfect.  

The young man who left Carlbrook at 18 (in your link) is but one voice. Do you really think he is representative?  

I am not going to go into the licensing debate. There are many reasons why a business of ANY kind chooses to resist licensing requirements. I have been involved in these kind of disputes in totally unrelated industries.  It does not mean that they have something to hide or want to run an abusive organization. "

You don't know what you're talking about, lady.  I WORKED at HLA, and what you're saying has no resemblence to reality.  

They are an unlicensed, unaccredited BM warehouse that also has an unlicensed wilderness program as well.

They take any and all kids that can pay the fees, even court-mandated, violent felons.  

The "academics" are a huge fraud where no kid is ever given a failing grade for anything, regardless of whether or not they did any work or even WENT to class.  When I worked there there weren't even any licensed teachers.  They had a dorm counselor teaching Biology.

The "Clinical Director" has a phony degree from a diploma mill, LaSalle University (Mandeville, La.), the counselors are subpar to say the least and many have no credentials at all.  And the owner is fully aware of this and simply doesn't care.  I spoke with him at length about it several times.  Asses in chairs is all they care about.

They use sleep deprivation and withhold food as punishment.  They use restraint, even though they say they don't.  They strip search, even though they say they don't.  

The Headmaster was fired because of his terrible behavior and went directly to ASW to continue abusing kids there.  He was from CEDU, a known abusive (and recently shut down) facility, as were all of the original staff.

Kids have reported on this board that they traded clothes for drugs and alcohol, which were provided by staff members.

One kid recently posted that s/he was there for FOUR YEARS AND POST-GRAD.  They say 18 months.

I literally could go on and on with the lies and deceit of this program, but it's already been covered in the HLA thread.  I suggest you check some facts before you make statements.

You sound less and less like an attorney and more and more like a common half-wit programmie.

I'm glad anon took the liberty of posting your name and contact information so that any of your prospective clients can see exactly how jammed-up they'll get when they hire you.  "Proof, your honor?  I don't need proof.  I just need to SAY SO."  Geez...
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« Reply #303 on: August 02, 2005, 05:07:00 PM »
For the record, HLAs wilderness program is licensed. It wasn't before I reported them to the Office of Regulatory Services. They told me that wilderness programs weren't required to be licensed in Ga.

HLA is not licensed. I have no idea how they have successfully avoided it.

They are accredited by a couple of organizations which monitor the 'academics', if you will, but not the 'therapeutic' aspects of the program.

So much for the academics. My son returned 5 credits behind his peers.
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« Reply #304 on: August 02, 2005, 06:15:00 PM »
Many of the Hidden Lake grads are attending excellent colleges.  
Seems to be a solid program for many kids.
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« Reply #305 on: August 02, 2005, 06:27:00 PM »
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On 2005-08-02 15:15:00, Anonymous wrote:

"Many of the Hidden Lake grads are attending excellent colleges.  

Seems to be a solid program for many kids."

Many "lifer" inmates in the prison system here in NY are also attending excellent colleges.  Maybe we should start sending our kids into the penal system, as long as the only qualifier for a "good program" is college attendence...

I seriously don't see how you could ever form a logical argument in a court of law.  Maybe that's why you're a little "slow" lately-lack of talent.

"Underemployed part-time Barrister seeks full-time employment as resident dip-shit."  I wrote your ad for you...
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« Reply #306 on: August 02, 2005, 06:35:00 PM »
I am not a lawyer, but perhaps you are??? Did you get fired from HLA?  I hope so.  No wonder it has improved so much.
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« Reply #307 on: August 02, 2005, 06:37:00 PM »
Why the meanness?  Whatever happened to 'agreeing to disagree'?  

See, lots of people can use quotes!
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« Reply #308 on: August 02, 2005, 06:38:00 PM »
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« Reply #309 on: August 02, 2005, 06:45:00 PM »
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« Reply #310 on: August 02, 2005, 06:56:00 PM »
I have not been identified, but I feel sorry for the person you think I am.  
What is the big deal about identifying people, anyway. It's not like YOU are brave enough to reveal your personal information.  Who cares?  It's a message forum.  Do you really think you are all that important to the world?
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« Reply #311 on: August 02, 2005, 07:01:00 PM »
My name is Karen Austin. I live in Dallas, Texas. I sent my son to a program, twice actually. I usually hang out on Struggling Teens, but decided to come here and troll. I have an underlying anger problem, and I prefer to direct that anger towards my children- but now that they are gone. I was forced to find an alternative outlet for my anger, which led me here to fornits web forum. I was an attorney, but I wasn't very good and don't get work anymore. That used to give me a great opportunity to let my rage out. But now, I prefer to troll message boards with abused adults who lived through horrific upbringings, and tell them what losers they are. Sure, it might sound weird to some people, but it works for me! ksaustin@hotmail.com
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« Reply #312 on: August 02, 2005, 07:02:00 PM »
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« Reply #313 on: August 02, 2005, 07:11:00 PM »
Don't believe everything you read around here.
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« Reply #314 on: August 02, 2005, 07:35:00 PM »
...if that is KareninDallas, that isn't her email address.  From what I know of her posts on the other board, I doubt that she would post anonymously here.
I was a supporter of this site, even though I never registered.  Now I am registering but don't plan to stick around.  The level of immaturity is mind-boggling.  What have you proven by your attack here?  If people come to this board to check out the Brat Camp issues, is THIS the kind of stuff you want them to see?
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