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« Reply #210 on: November 10, 2005, 01:24:00 PM »
Paul,
Always diverting the issue.

Parens Patriae- Latin for Country as Parent.
The Ninth Circuit Court still fails to make a distinction between Sex 'Education' and Sex 'Survey'

The former useful if taught appropriately, the latter- invasion of privacy.

When the government 'figures out' how to keep kids from getting 'molested' please post a link to the cure. While we're waiting, we sane parents will be 'educating' our kids on how to stay safe, from pedophiles and the government.
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« Reply #211 on: November 10, 2005, 03:02:00 PM »
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On 2005-11-10 10:24:00, Anonymous wrote:
we sane parents will be 'educating' our kids on how to stay safe, from pedophiles



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Glad to hear it!
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« Reply #212 on: November 17, 2005, 10:22:00 AM »
Public schools sounding more and more like programs....

Copley News Service
November 15, 2005
Activist courts protect mental health screening of children in public schools
By Phyllis Schlafly

The recent 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals decision that parents' rights over the education of their children terminate at "the threshold of the school door" has stirred up a tremendous backlash. But in asserting the public schools' right to overrule parents, the decision in Fields v. Palmdale School District is much broader than the matter of a nosy questionnaire interrogating elementary schoolchildren about their assumed sexual activities.

The decision appears to be inventing a judicial argument for the new federally proposed mental health screening of all schoolchildren. In dicta wholly unnecessary to the decision, 9th Circuit Judge Stephen Reinhardt casually asserted that the school's power extends to "protecting the mental health of children."

The school had sent a letter to parents stating that if a child felt uncomfortable about answering nosy questions, the school would assist in "locating a therapist for further psychological help." First-, third- and fifth-grade children would be provided with therapists to enable them to cope with a classroom activity.

An activist court has thus brought out in the open a trend that started years ago. When the late S.I. Hayakawa, R-Calif., was a U.S. senator urging passage of the Protection of Pupil Rights Amendment in 1978, he predicted that the schools were succumbing to "a heresy that rejects the idea of education as the acquisition of knowledge and skills ... (and) regards the fundamental task in education as therapy."

One of George W. Bush's first initiatives upon becoming president was to create the New Freedom Commission on Mental Health. The commission issued its report in 2003 and it is being implemented by the Substance Abuse & Mental Health Services Administration.

SAMHSA proudly asserts that its goal is a "fundamental transformation" of the mental health system. SAMHSA says that "the word transformation was chosen carefully" because it empowers new federal action in "policy, funding, and practice, as well as for attitudes and beliefs."

The federally funded activities announced on SAMHSA's Web site are awesomely comprehensive and expensive. SAMHSA is planning "a national effort focused on the mental health needs of children and early intervention for children identified to be at risk for mental disorders."

Ask yourself: How are these federal bureaucrats going to "identify" children at risk, and where will "early intervention" take place? The original report of the New Freedom Commission was blunt in stating that the plan is to make the public schools "partners," and conduct "routine and comprehensive" mental health examinations linked with "state-of-the-art treatments" using "specific medications."

SAMHSA's lawyers must have sanitized its Web site to have bureaucrats deny that the plan is universal or mandatory, but it's difficult to see how else they can achieve their national goal of "transformation."

TeenScreen, a mental-health screening questionnaire that has been used in 43 states, is supposed to enable school administrators to judge mental illness on the basis of such questions as:

- "Have you ever had sex (with women, men or both)?"

- "Do you ever wonder if you are, gay, lesbian, bisexual, or transgender?"

- "Have you ever had thoughts about killing yourself?"

In a Mishawaka, Ind., high school, student Chelsea Rhoades, 15, was given a TeenScreen exam, after which she was diagnosed as suffering from obsessive-compulsive disorder and social anxiety disorder. This diagnosis was based on her responses that she liked to help clean the house and she didn't like to "party."

Chelsea's parents are suing the school, and we hope they don't end up in the court of a judge like Reinhardt's. According to Chelsea, a majority of the students who took the TeenScreen exam were told they suffered from some sort of mental or social disorder.

A study by Harvard University and the National Institute of Mental Health released in August claims that 46 percent of all Americans will, at some point in their lives, develop a mental disorder. Such an extraordinary statement by so-called experts indicates that mental diagnoses are unscientific, and the people pushing screening of all schoolchildren are, well, probably crazy - or are shilling for the manufacturers of the psychotropic drugs that will be prescribed for kids who flunk the TeenScreen test.

The Protection of Pupil Rights Amendment, which was reaffirmed in the No Child Left Behind Act, prohibits schools from interrogating students about "mental or psychological problems" without prior informed written parental consent. The Department of Education has sent a letter to every school superintendent setting forth the school's obligations.

House Judiciary Committee Chairman James Sensenbrenner, R-Wis., emphatically stated, "It is not, and should not be, the role of government to subject children to arbitrary mental health screenings without the consent of their parents." Right on, Rep. Sensenbrenner!

Congress should make compliance with the law about parents' rights a condition of federal funding to schools just like other civil rights requirements.

Phyllis Schlafly is a lawyer, conservative political analyst and the author of "The Supremacists."
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« Reply #213 on: January 27, 2006, 11:30:00 PM »
http://www.americanchronicle.com/articl ... cleID=4939

America The Insane
By Nancy Levant
January 23, 2006
It's looking more and more like the American contribution to population reduction will be in the form of diagnosing half its citizens as mental incompetents. That will naturally lead to reproductive legislation and control. And when they come up with a way to declare eldership and religiosity as mental illnesses, which is well underway, that will clear the way for incarceration and euthanasia legislation, including, but not limited to, starvation and dehydration.

The plan, according to Bush, his pharmaceutical connections, and TMAP is to test every American citizen for emotional and "social" problems. Children and pregnant women are being tested, as we speak, and senior citizens are of particular vulnerability and concern. There are a lot of seniors in the U.S. The government already spent all the Social Security savings, and once the powers-that-be crash the stock markets, seniors will be flat broke and destitute.

All one can say is. who let the freaks wag the dog?

The people who are running this country, and those they truly serve, slipped over an edge a long time ago. Now, after losing property, homes, Constitutional rights, and even toilets that hold proper amounts of water, we are to simply allow ourselves to be diagnosed by partnership-money trails and desires for pathological power and profits. Sincerely, truly, we are not going to allow this to continue.are we?

The legislation and executive orders that are oozing over this nation and its people are loathsome and insidious. As each day goes by, it seems as if we are reading a nightmarish novel, but in truth, we're reading the laws of the land of an anti-human government. What is going on in America, under the guise of professionalism, is pure evil. It is the result of political favors returned to campaign supporters and lobbyists. It is the result of out-of-control corporate powers and greed, and a totally out-of-control aristocracy.

There is a blatant political effort to reduce humanity to artificially controlled robots, for lack of a better term, or highly manageable slaves. This in the name of spreading freedom, preserving nature, eliminating poverty, and whatever else the globalists are using as their excuse to enslave cheap and compliant labor.

If these criminally insane partners are not stopped, God knows what the final results will be to American people, and all people around the world. And if you can't see the insanity that is in your midst - in your schools, in your health care system, in your houses of Congress, at the Executive level, and in your courtrooms, then you are, in fact, diagnosable.

We have to stop this. Every American citizen has to demand that there be an end to professional deviance and treachery, and we must demand their resignations and their citizenship. These people are dangerous to our nation, and they are conquering America by diminishing the citizenry, drugging the citizenry, poisoning the citizenry, and manipulating the citizenry.

We can't go another 3 years at this pace. We can't wait for another pretense of an election. American people are in danger. Wake up! Wake up, American people, and use the blessing of your eyes and what remains of your unscathed brains. READ! Understand what is actually happening inside of this nation. Every American citizen is to be tested for mental health problems, and treatment is ENFORCED. In other words, you can't deny treatment - not for yourselves or your children. Do you understand the ramifications? Do you understand that this means the end of parental rights if either you or your children are diagnosed and labeled? Do you understand the insanity of a leader of the United States enforcing this kind of legislation upon every American citizen? You better wake up, folks, because one day, you may be so drugged that you will be unable to do so.

I leave you with this horrific warning from Dennis L. Cuddy's series, Mental Health, Education, and Social Control, Part 14, which states:

".President George W. Bush's New Freedom Commission on Mental Health (NFCMH) has proposed screening all of America's youth. Used to support this initiative will be the recent findings of the National Comorbidity Survey Replication (NCSR), the results of which are published in the June edition of the ARCHIVES OF GENERAL PSYCHIATRY. It found that half of those who will ever be diagnosed with a mental disorder show signs of the disease by age 14. In Rick Weiss' "Study: U.S. Leads In Mental Illness, Lags in Treatment" (THE WASHINGTON POST, June 7, 2005), one also learns that the National Institute of Mental Health (NIMH) funded the $20 million NCSR study, which found that one-quarter of all Americans met the criteria for having a mental illness within the past year. The study also found that almost half of Americans meet the criteria for such an illness at some point in their lives, and that less than half of those in need get treated. Thomas Insel, chief of the NIMH, expressed his disappointment to learn from the survey that about a third of people in need rely solely on nonprofessional sources such as internet support groups and spiritual advisers. You might ask yourself at this point what kind of broad definition they are using to determine that half of the American population will be mentally ill."
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« Reply #214 on: January 28, 2006, 12:03:00 PM »
Yawn.
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« Reply #215 on: January 28, 2006, 04:38:00 PM »
Deborah, thanks for being so obsessed on
all negative perceptions of mental illness.

Your experience as a mental health worker
is so valuable to all of us.

If it wasn't for you, we just wouldn't
know this stuff!
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« Reply #216 on: January 28, 2006, 06:34:00 PM »
Thanks, Deb. Very thoughtful article.

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Every American citizen is to be tested for mental health problems, and treatment is ENFORCED. In other words, you can't deny treatment - not for yourselves or your children. Do you understand the ramifications? Do you understand that this means the end of parental rights if either you or your children are diagnosed and labeled? Do you understand the insanity of a leader of the United States enforcing this kind of legislation upon every American citizen?

Ain't no gettin `round that, is there anons? Look, I don't recall anybody in this ongoing brawl ever trying to tell you what you should or should not do wrt your own drug or therapy choices. So quit taking every criticism of the pharma/industrial complex as a personal affront. You're just not that important.

Now, this also brings to mind something I've tried pretty hard to explain. Very often, people dismiss Straight, Inc. critics as just a bunch of loony, left wing conservative haters (conservatives just call us America bashers). That simply isn't so. If it were, then all the Straight critics would necessarily be just fine w/ Art Barker and the Seed, as Art was a vocal Social Democrat.

The mandatory psyche screening started out as an extreme left wing plan going as far back as the New Deal. Just browse John Taylor Gatto's http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neoconserv ... ted_States)
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And this is perfectly consistent w/ the way the Büsh Dynasty and their close cronies have always behaved. Lookie here:

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The Governor's Sub-rosa Plot to Subvert an Election in Ohio
View full investigative report (in .pdf format -- free Adobe Acrobat reader needed.)

 
Ohio Governor Bob Taft and the highest reaches of his administration have embarked on a concerted, months-long effort to subvert the state's electoral process. With overall control of budgets, jobs and sentencing policy at stake, the Taft administration has organized a sophisticated, sub-rosa campaign to defeat a drug treatment rather than incarceration amendment likely to appear on the ballot in November. Starting last spring, Gov. Taft himself, First Lady Hope Taft, his chief of staff, Brian Hicks, two of his cabinet members and numerous senior and support staff have - while on the clock, ostensibly serving the public - conceived and directed a partisan political campaign.
http://fornits.com/anonanon/Forbes/ohio/

This has been a mind bender for drug policy reformers and Program critics alike. Why would DFAF and the Taft admin (being cozy as they are w/ Straight Spin off, Kids Helping Kids in Milford, Oh) oppose a treatment not incarceration measure? And why would drug policy reformers support it? Well, the truth is, drug policy reform financiers have poured money into this initiative, but it has never really grown legs like medical marijuana, hemp, needle exchange, methadone or other worthy causes.

The simplest explanation is that the core philosophy of the left has an awful lot in common w/ that of the neocons. They all believe fervently that we the People can't really be trusted to govern ourselves. If we should folly to think, for example, that marijuana--even for the sick and dying--is not so dangerous as to warrant the all out 30 year war we've waged on it, well then we're clearly out of control. So then they'll just have to trick us into doing what's right. It's for our own good and the good of the country.

Well, BULLSHIT on that! That's the as profoundly unamerican as you can get!

I'll cite two more examples of DFAF activity that demonstrate the same sentiment.

  • Grinspoon, the Super Bowl ad Bonanza and 911:

    "In a letter from the Commonwealth of Massachusetts Board of Registration in Medicine dated September 7, 2001 [Grinspoon] was told that the Board had "received a complaint regarding [his] conduct.... "

    The letter was from Calvina Fay, Exec Dir of DFAF, DFAF being formerly known as Straight, Inc. Essentially, this dingbat seems to think that a well respected former Harvard professor and practicing psychiatrist ought to lose his license if he didn't tow the party line wrt marijuana prohibition. Either that or she just thought she could get away with bullying him around like this, and after all her cause is just, right kiddies? Why of course it must be because you don't see other well respected professionals breaking ranks like this guy.  :roll:

    Here's the whole article as it appeared in The Journal of Cognitive Liberties:

    http://www.norml.org/index.cfm?Group_ID=5028
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    Now, you might ask yourself what in the world ONDCP would have to do w/ DFAF/Straight, Inc. or their cronnies. Good question! Long answer. Here's part of it:

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     Statement on So-Called "Harm Reduction" Policies  
     
     International Task Force on Strategic Drug Policy
    Contact: Calvina Fay
    Phone: (1)(727) 828?0211
    email: http://www.pushingback.com/archives/030105_2js.html


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    « Reply #217 on: January 29, 2006, 12:59:00 AM »
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    The simplest explanation is that the core philosophy of the left has an awful lot in common w/ that of the neocons.



    Soooo fucking true.

    I didn't really know much about neoconservatism until the Bush Jr. administration, and I was very confused by it all. Big spenders, big government, big debt, and micromanagement to the extreme. I was like "wait a minute, I thought conservatives were against all of this stuff?" But then I was told "Haven't you heard? This is neoconservatism."

    Which seems to be the exact opposite of regular conservatism.

    Kind of proves my theory that the societal consequences of an extremely left government vs. an extremely right government are exactly the same.
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    « Reply #218 on: January 29, 2006, 04:25:00 PM »
    For the record, I think parents should be asked first and give consent before their kids are asked anything personal unless there's been a formal allegation of abuse or neglect, and then I think the asking should be done by a qualified Child Welfare worker.  It shouldn't ever be done by the school.

    I also think a family court is justified in ordering questioning by a qualified Child Welfare worker if the child has been convicted of an offense or been hospitalized for trying to hurt himself or someone else.

    I think a lot of parents would consent to free screening if they felt they had some reason to be concerned about their child and maybe either genuinely couldn't afford it or thought they couldn't afford the time or money.

    I don't think there's anything wrong with making screening free and convenient to those that want it as long as the parents have to give informed consent first.

    I also think that if the kid wants screening, a kid above a certain age should be able to consent to it even if their parents object.  Fourteen is usually the age at which judges let kids of divorced parents decide which parent to live with.   Kids should at least start having substantial say in their medical and mental health choices by then.  If they could, the programs would go out of business tomorrow.

    And yeah, I'm staying anon.  Sometimes it's better that way.

    Providing screening isn't the problem.  The problem is that the devil's in the details.
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    « Reply #219 on: January 30, 2006, 08:46:00 AM »
    It is a chore to get any relevant information
    from this thread. The most voluminous poster
    have such a venomous bias, and their resources
    are the same.

    I would rather see the bills, and the protocols
    rather than some angry, or paranoid, opinion.

    This thread could be useful, but it is dominated
    by a terrible bias that has become the norm.
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    « Reply #220 on: January 30, 2006, 11:36:00 AM »
    boo hoo. ::crybaby:: TERRIBLE bias not wanting to live in an orwellian society and have soverignty over our own children and our own bodies.

    Oh woe is you and me... Get OVER IT. The facts are clearly stated and the bills are linked to, why do you have such a problem with people expressing opinions? You shouldnt have a problem at all, much less when theyre decrying what amounts to government-backed, tax funded, loss of rights over yourself if some twit and/or a questionaire says youre insane.

    Hey, while youre bitching, why not get an identity so we can tell you from the rest of the masses of bagheads?

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    DannyB on the internet:I CALLED A LAWYER TODAY TO SEE IF I COULD SUE YOUR ASSES FOR DOING THIS BUT THAT WAS NOT POSSIBLE.

    CCMGirl on program restraints: "DON\'T TAZ ME BRO!!!!!"

    TheWho on program survivors: "From where I sit I see all the anit-program[sic] people doing all the complaining and crying."

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    « Reply #221 on: January 30, 2006, 08:37:00 PM »
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    Hey, while youre bitching, why not get an identity so we can tell you from the rest of the masses of bagheads




    Yessss, let's shoot that friggin messenger, yee ha!
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    « Reply #222 on: January 30, 2006, 09:47:00 PM »
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    On 2006-01-30 17:37:00, Anonymous wrote:

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    On 2006-01-30 08:36:00, Nihilanthic wrote:



    Hey, while youre bitching, why not get an identity so we can tell you from the rest of the masses of bagheads







    Yessss, let's shoot that friggin messenger, yee ha!"


    Uhhh, what does shooting the messenger have to do with the fact that youre just one part of a nebulous mass of "anonymous" unless you identify yourself?  :roll:

    I belive when you make up a point that I never made up and then try to attack that made up point its called a "Strawman", sir.

    It's our goddamn duty to get these people back on drugs so they can think for themselves again!!!
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    CCMGirl on program restraints: "DON\'T TAZ ME BRO!!!!!"

    TheWho on program survivors: "From where I sit I see all the anit-program[sic] people doing all the complaining and crying."

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