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IVY ridge mom speaks out
« Reply #15 on: June 13, 2005, 07:39:00 PM »
i still have my personality... i went there. and im straight.
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« Reply #16 on: June 13, 2005, 07:58:00 PM »
i lost my personality... i didnt go there... and im gay.  :sad:
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« Reply #17 on: June 13, 2005, 08:04:00 PM »
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On 2005-06-13 14:58:00, Anonymous wrote:

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On 2005-06-07 19:23:00, Cayo Hueso wrote:


"Bottom line....stay away from people who tell you they can save your kids, help your kids, love your kids or anything else BETTER than YOU can.  Do NOT pay strangers to do what YOU alone can do for your kids..or to recommend anyone else to do so.  Ed Cons/Markerers/Family Reps or whatever the fuck you want to call them are nothing more than middle men for an out of control  and un-necessary industry.

When he [Califano] claims that the voters of Arizona and California did not know what they were voting for when they supported the two initiatives, he reminds me of the way Serbia's President Slobodan Milosevic reacted to recent election results in that country.
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duh they cant love their kids better. They never say that they can do these things, they just say that they can help intervene in kids destructive behaviors by giving them tools that they can choose or not choose to use, They dont guarentee any change, they just try to help people stop screwing up their lives."


Yeah..... you sound like a program brochure. If you think sending your child away is what all the 'good' parents are doing... umm.. someone should clue you in. Reality check :exclaim:
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IVY ridge mom speaks out
« Reply #18 on: June 13, 2005, 11:14:00 PM »
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On 2005-06-13 17:04:00, Anonymous wrote:

duh they cant love their kids better. They never say that they can do these things, they just say that they can help intervene in kids destructive behaviors by giving them tools that they can choose or not choose to use, They dont guarentee any change, they just try to help people stop screwing up their lives."


So then, it's really not a very successful program, then?

The German Nazis and the Russian Communists came very close to us in their methods, but they never had the courage to recognize their own motives. The object of persecution is persecution. The object of torture is torture. The object of power is power.
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« Reply #19 on: June 14, 2005, 10:43:00 AM »
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but i can guarentee that in the end, we who learn will have lifes and not be pathetic, drug abusing, drunk, screwed up wackos like most of the world is



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"like most of the world is"

That's a very telling quote.

They actually got you to believe that *most* people in the world have no life, and are pathetic, drunk, "screwed up wackos."

This doesn't reflect what I've seen in life at all.

The lady across the street is a realtor, another guy across the street owns a grounds maintenance business (does corporate landscaping), another guy across the street is a contractor.  (Our home, which we own, is on a corner and is on a big lot--there's a lot of "across the street.")

(I'm skipping the information about our family, because I don't want to make this about us.)

I suppose someone could say that we're insulated from the majority of "drunk, screwed up wackos" by our socioeconomic class, but I graduated college into a recession and spent several years pretty darned poor.  Most of the other poor people I knew, and people at various intermediate stages on the way up, (and people in higher socioeconomic brackets than our family), were neither drunks nor "screwed up wackos" and definitely had lives.

I've known a few drunks, a few casual drug users, a few *genuine* recovering alcoholics or drug addicts, a few "screwed up wackos", and a few people who really did have no life.

They weren't the majority---unless you consider merely beeing poor to be a social sin.

It has often seemed to me that one of the worst problems of Program Parents (and the Programs play to this) is that they quietly consider being poor to be just as bad as deadorinjail and being poor is the fate they're really trying to "protect" their kid from.

So perhaps when you label people "screwed up wackos with no life" you *are* including people who are simply poor.

I don't know whether you are or not.

I do know that most of the kids in my high school--a lot---who were "troubled teens" didn't end up deadorinjail.  They mostly did end up poor.  Of course, a fair few of the people who weren't "troubled teens" ended up poor, too.

I do know that to get anywhere near a majority of humanity in your big pool of screwed up wackos with no life you'd have to include a whole lot of people for no other sin than being poor and being either disabled or unable and uninterested in acquiring better job skills.

Program Parents tend to be horrible snobs, even though they'd deny it.  The Programs play to that snobbery---implying that if your kid graduates the Program he or she *may* even go on to the Ivy League.

The snobbery is implicit when the Program is compared to the price of a new Lexxus and presented as, "Isn't your kid worth a car?"

Most people consider that *five times* the cost of a down payment on a house.

Whatever else you came out of Ivy Ridge with, you didn't come out with a very accurate or compassionate view of your fellow man.

Julie/Timoclea
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« Reply #20 on: June 14, 2005, 03:09:00 PM »
My name is Elena and I am the sister of a kid expelled from Ivy because of the riot. I would like to urge parents of children expelled to contact me so we can, together, file a law suit against the school. My brother was already contacted by a lady from Child Services who gave him a lawyer to contact. My e-mail is sculy_bg@yahoo.com The sooner we act, the sooner we can find justice! The school played with our children's lives and it lied to us about the diploma's!
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« Reply #21 on: June 14, 2005, 03:19:00 PM »
The lady I mentioned is from CAICA (Coalition Against Institutionalized Child Abuse)
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« Reply #22 on: June 14, 2005, 06:36:00 PM »
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Whatever else you came out of Ivy Ridge with, you didn't come out with a very accurate or compassionate view of your fellow man.



Julie/Timoclea



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Also didn't come out with much of an education.  Pretty damn pitiful writing, for the $100,000 the parents spent.
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