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« Reply #1350 on: September 26, 2007, 06:11:03 PM »
When I said some of the anorexics did seem to be suffering from stress and life issues
There were also one or two that seemed to be suffering from chemical depression
Chemical depression seemed to be a different medical problem
The kids seemed to have a health problem
A medical issue, otherwise they were nice smart normal teens
It was like they woke up feeling  sad and rather sick
You know how you feel emotionally when you are really tired
 or sick or run down?
It was like they felt like that all the time
Some of these girls were also anorexic
I think they have a specific physical health problem like diabetes
And it was specific you could tell which ones had it and which ones didn’t

Also I think it interesting that depression and anorexia is so much more common in teenage girls,
I also know that some girls seem to grow out of depression
It really makes me wonder, as an adult woman who goes to the doctor often in relation to women’s problems, like painful pms, and who is sure because of the direct correlation with periods that symptoms of pain or moodiness are related directly to the fact that she is a woman
I have no symptoms of pain or moodiness at any other time of the month or year, but this has shown me that a women reproductive cycles have a direct effect on their moods and physical health and that these syptoms are physical.
and it has made me wonder if there isn’t some sort of teenage menopause thing going on here that is being misdiagnosed?
I don’t know if this is the case in all instances of depression in teenage girls but it might be a factor because it is so much more prevalent in them then the boys with these sort of specific symptoms.
A lot of my mothers friends are going through menopause and it is a real health issue and the symptoms do in fact correlate almost with ones of depression in teenage girls
If you have never been around a group of women with menopause
 you don’t know what I’m talking about.  
If there are such symptoms toward the end of a woman’s reproductive cycle,
why not at the beginning?
Most of the girls with chemical depression symptoms showed no signs of it before puberty?
I am sure all the out side pressure, stress and lack of compassion around girls these days does not help matters much.
I know I am not a doctor but I did live with anorexics in pretty close quarters under a lot of stress for two years,
observation certainly is a part of science?
honestly i think it is the only part of the psychiatric industry that qualifies as a science
I am just proposing a hypothesis that perhaps depression in girls could also be related to hormonal changes?
I don’t think this is the case in all of them I just think as a factor over all perhaps it should be looked into.

the problem with having shrinks run the show is they tend to see mental problems when they could be physical, for example the girl who was going into liver failure had severe test anxiety :roll:
perhaps even mental problems are physical wow
so basically PV beats up on sick kids who can't help it
lets put goons in charge of the leukemia ward, beat them, not allow them to go to school and not treat their leukemia great idea :roll:
of course being in PV and other horrible things make teens sad too
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« Reply #1351 on: September 26, 2007, 06:17:32 PM »
go look up menopause in women under google
it makes a good point maybe you will see then what i'm talking about
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« Reply #1352 on: September 26, 2007, 06:29:15 PM »
Quote from: ""depression and menopause""
go look up menopause in women under google

No.
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« Reply #1353 on: September 26, 2007, 11:29:31 PM »
to much estrogen eh?
sorry  
i'm not even reading the other posts anymore
so if i seem like i'm ignoring them thats why
this is what teenagers who say they are being sexually harassed in
high school deal with and we wonder why they don't want to go to school or seem depressed
sometimes depression is environmental
but i'm sick of duking it out with staff and pigs
i've given all the information i have twice now
i don't get to talk much about what i see and I've seen a lot of stuff
PV is a horrible place and it should be stopped
sorry about the mention of PMS and menopause  :roll:  
cause that's so gross comparably to what PV does and all the horrific stuff said by PV staff on here
i'm sorry if i've said anything else too graphic or shocking
such is the nature of war stories after all
go read the gulag archipelago, just go read world history in general
sorry to be shocking
rot in hell staff i m free of this i think
and i kicked your ass some which was the point after all!
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« Reply #1354 on: September 27, 2007, 01:05:19 AM »
this whole site is horrible
i started out that way because i was living that situation
i'm a real person
my mother actually said that stuff
i wrote in the first post
i didn't realize how odd what she said sounds out of context
thats why i wrote it
my grandmother drank, what she said about her was in that context?
 my mother doesn't like herbs?
she thinks they are witch craft or something?  
she gets really threatening about it sometimes  
she says stuff like crazy people believe in magic and such and she's really threatening about it.
like i said something about intuition when i was out in Colorado by myself in a bad neighborhood and she started talking about schizophrenia
it's really scary what she does
she was really really threatening me    
i was just terrified all the time and my intuition was terror at walking up to my creepy apartment in my horrible crappy neighborhood coming home from work at night
when i went back and read the other stuff on the site
i was so embarassed about posting what she said when she was angry with me,
i wrote that because i was living it and afraid
i was afraid of everything, being put in some place like PV by my abusive family again because i couldn't afford to move out and they didn't want me here,
i had just moved home from a bad neighborhood where i was attacked,
working a year in a department store with no windows and no labor laws
and four years with an abusive boyfriend
i drove accross the country by myself three times
i had abusive people on one side and abusive people on the other?
 my mother was threatening me all the time then
i'm a real person
i was working going to school and getting A's
while my mother threatened me with calling the police weekly at least
for no reason, she said later she felt the need to take her house back?
from what i don't know, me using up the cleaning supplies?
i don't drink or use drugs or even try to talk to her anymore
now i just agree with everything she says

you don't know how terrifying that is for someone out of a program
it was a horrible abusive time
i think i was freaking out, when i wrote that first post
i don't know what i was thinking
i thought the abuse was so bad people would just see it as abuse?
everything i have said is true
there is a lot of abuse in my life and this world
it just made me so mad to have written something so embarassing and personal, it was really happening and i'm always so alone in it
then going back and reading how people were going to take it
please actually, if you aren't a serial killer think about that as a person
Abuse isolates you
my life for a very long time has been really abusive
you can't talk about it to people you work with or go to school with
abusers isolate you
look at PV
my ex kept everyone away somehow
we didn't know anyone where we lived
you just want to hide too
they make you feel like you can never tell any one
my family has been really high stress since i was nine
everyday was yelling and horror non stop almost
just the level of trauma was really high
this last semester I still went to work everyday and got good grades
i have health problems too
it's really hard for me to stand for eight hours
it frightens me to that things are less abusive right now
since i called the police on my mom because she hit me she has been much nicer?  
it makes you stay and then you have total hell on your hands?
i don't know i am not the abuser?  
i don't know why this house is like this
i just wish i could get out of here safely
sometimes i feel like i've always been here and i'm never going to get out
it's really scary thanks
it's always like this?  it's ok for a while but then it's so abusive

you all have been horrible
it's always like this everyone is so abusive
it's a hard world, no wonder i work so hard in school
this is all stupid no one every believes you any way
all there ever is is prejudice, abusive people and sexual harassment
i just was scared and alone, and that isn't a invitation for some pig on here to come kill me, fuck you all
thanks for your support
although i guess going for support to a site PV staff might read
was probably not the best plan
i didn't have a plan though i was just scared out of my mind honestly
and then i was angry and defending myself
and trying to put down what i've seen because
 i know it's wrong and it's all true
i just never talk about it
i am done with this though
you all should think about how this is a site for survivors of abuse in programs and be less insensitive and stupid or just plain disgusting and evil  
and be less stupid and insensitive not to mention just disgusting and evil
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« Reply #1355 on: September 27, 2007, 01:10:29 AM »
i re read my first post and it made me mad
that's what the above is rambling about
this whole site, has made me mad
i'm done this is stupid
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« Reply #1356 on: September 27, 2007, 02:07:08 AM »
You better go. The world's Enter keys are starting a petition.
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« Reply #1357 on: September 27, 2007, 05:24:05 AM »
all the girls out of PV and people actually connected to surviors are great people
most of the rest of you really need to think about where you are and what this whole thing is
and staff just needs to repent see the light and stop abusing teens
what the hell do you people think you are doing?
you know PV is bad, you know what you do?
what the hell are you thinking?
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« Reply #1358 on: September 27, 2007, 07:09:59 AM »
Free, do you want a blog? I might be able to set it up for you. If not, I'm sure I can find the help I need to do it.

Who else wants a blog? I'm just trying to gage interest and scope of difficulty here.
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« Reply #1359 on: September 27, 2007, 07:38:13 AM »
I just want to help you free! Why won't you let me help you?

By not letting me help you, you make me SO angry!
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« Reply #1360 on: September 27, 2007, 06:42:02 PM »
hey go to the MSN home page today
there is this article on how to avoid raising a serial killer
that's actually it's title
under todays pick
then under the post your comment part here's the question

"While not every victim of bullying will grow up to become violent, events like the Virginia Tech shootings make us wonder if we should pay more attention when children are being picked on. Has your child been bullied before? How did you deal with it? Or maybe your child WAS the bully?"

Isn't that horrible!  everyone gets bullied at some point especially in school, so some kid trys to report it and people act like they are going to go postal or something.
where does MSN get the connection,your bullied so you must be a terrorist!!
fricken criminalization of kids not to mention the victims of stuff that really qualifies as assault half the time,
 the interesting thing is the nice people repond with lots of stories of bullying and how their kids dealt with it
 they tend to say the same thing,
they talk a lot about the schools not doing enough about bullying too, it's interesting and telling
it's so unfair kids always get bullied in school
it's in every movie ever made about schools!
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« Reply #1361 on: September 27, 2007, 07:26:06 PM »
here are some of the responses
thought they were neat

Hi
Yes my daughter has been bulllied alot in grammar school. Even to the point she didn't want to go to school anymore. I've told teachers and principles but nothing is ever really done. I finally told her to speak up and the bully finally left her alone. The bully was a girl bigger than her,(weight wise) I told her alot of people do that to get the other kids off of them and that way all the attention will go to her. Alot of times these kids that bully are often or have been bullied themselves.

 this ones from Boooomer
i think i like Booomer,he sounds down to earth
 I instructed my son to ask very politely that the "bully stop targeting him for ridicule and harrasment."  and when the "bully refused" my son was to hit him as hard as he could right in the nose. which proved very effective, the councellors meeting we had to attended was not pleased with my son"s conduct, but the broken nosed bully did NOT bother him again.

goofy sue
I think we should be far more flexible in how we allow our kids to handle bullies. It's ridiculous that the victim is always expected to be "above" the behavior that he is being harassed by. Walking away doesn't always work. If a situation can't be settled right away with a good swift punch to the nose of the harasser (which usually does work!) because everyone is so afraid of "violence",  the frustration simply builds so any later reaction is probably worse than it might have been if the victim had just felt he didn't have to put up with being walked all over in the first place.

Dania22
don't know what is up the gay thing here?

My daughter too was bullied and I reported it to the school. I have even gone to her school at recess /lunch time where I am informed I cannot spend that time with my child who is left all by herself and have asked the V.P. to work with me.. I do not feel schools today really give a damn about children, they are so much into introducing garbage about accepting gays  when she is too young to be concerned about sexual behavior, The schools  should be  working with the kids on their level and what is going on in their young minds. My child is too young to be introduced to gays and I feel this world is truly falling to pieces. My daughter has had her clothes ripped off and I have reported it to the school stating I want the parents to pay for the repairs. however I get no where. It might come to a point we may have to home school our children..

Armystrong99
We have found that reporting the bullying has be very ineffective at our school.  My daughter is in a class of 4 girls and 17 boys.  It is awful!  I finally went to the school myself and confronted two of worst boys.  Things seem to have calmed down with one and the other is right back at it.  My daughter comes home in tears every night.

school bullying
Teacher was part of the bullying in this small town private catholic school.  If the teacher made fun of you then the kids did not want to go against her, and they would disassociate also, it caused major depression in my 4th grader, hiding in the closet etc.  Moved to another school and with counseling and many years she is main stream social but will never forget that experience in her life.

Amyeg
A problem with telling your child to use physical force to defend themselves is that many schools have a zero tolerance policy when it comes to fighting and they will be suspended along with the bully. Schools aren't interested in hearing whether or not your defensive action was justified.

peace62
I was bullied as a child, and my son went through many years of the same thing.  The same with my oldest daughter who is now 22.  It is very hard to try and explain to a child why someone is treating them so badly.  In my case and also my son's, we were both very very shy in school.  I guess we were easy targets.  But in my generation, we were told to handle it ourselves.  Matter of fact, I'm not sure that I ever told my family because I knew that they wouldn't do anything about it.  
 
I've had a very open relationship with my children, and they trust me and tell me things that other kids probably wouldn't tell their parents.  It's taken a lot of years of talking my kids through these situations, and I got involved when I could.  I had my son's classroom changed around in elementary school.  I did this through the principal, who understood the situation, and no reason was given to the kids in the class for the change.  The kids just accepted it as part of the normal school routine.  In my daughter's case, I discovered bruises all over her body when she was around ten.  A kid that stood in line with her waiting on the bus was kicking her and knocking her down.  She wasn't going to tell me about it, probably figuring I wouldn't do anything.  She didn't know the name of the bully, so I told her rather than taking the bus home from school, I would meet her and she'd point out the kid to me.  I went up and asked the child his name.  Eventually his mother came along, and after a brief visit to the principal's office, all was taken care of.  
 
It's very frustrating, and a very hard situation.  It's heartbreaking to be the parent of a child that's being bullied.  Sometimes the situation is very touchy, and has to be handled a certain way.  I think that my involvement with my children has helped get them through the tough times.  

charmedlulu
My son has repeatedly been bullied through his school years.  Although I went to the authority figures at the school nothing was ever done.  I worked overtime to try and get my son through some very rough trials and tribulations.  I tried to teach him that fighting was not the answer.  I tried to teach him to walk away, yet as he aged, and found his plea for it to stop fell on deaf ears, he used his fists to solve the problem.  Today the school remains a complete bully zone, of very troubled children, and the school declares they are bully free.  Hogwash, teachers and administration just don't know how to deal with the problem, and many of the parents defend their children's bullying techniques.  Unfortunately, the society we have become is apparent everywhere.  We are a society without morals.

SpikemanMH
Last summer while at a BBQ, a 9 yr old boy was bullying my then 5 yr old son. My son came over to me crying that the bully kept picking on him and hitting him. I told him he had two choices. One, he could go tell the bully's dad about his son's behavior, or Two... he could go handle his business and step to the bully and deal with it. He opted for number Two. The bully was a full foot taller and about 20 lbs. heavier. My son punched him in the face and stomach and knocked him to the ground, then proceeded to stand over him in a rage and point his finger down at the bully and told the bully, "You don't hit me ever again, or I will kick your a$$". The bully went off to his room crying and ashamed. Case closed.
 
I made a very clear point to remind my son to never ever start a fight, but that should he find himself in a situation, to deal with it decisively

Jay-J
My daughters both have been bullied alot. My children are bi-racial and the kids were constantly making fun of their skin color, hair and height. I did report it to the principal, but unfortunately I didnt see any changes. My daughters got to the point where they didnt want to go school and they would cry in the morning using excused like their head hurt or they felt sick, just so they wouldnt go to school. I think alot of parents just need to explain to kids that we dont call people names especially when there are so many races in the world..Parents need to educate their kids, cause alot of times it comes from the parents themselves calling other people racial slurs, so they think its ok. And now my daughters have an insecurity about themselves and its so sad to know that children have to already deal with this kind of nonsense at an early age.

Jrome
My nephew had been picked on by the same boy in his class for a while. When Levi(nephew) told the teacher, or principal they told my brother that Levi needed to learn how to stick up for himself, while the kids all called Levi a taddle tale. It got to the point where Levi was beat with a soda bottle by this same kid on the school bus, and when Levi told the driver, he was told to shut up and sit down. My brother, his wife, and Levi finally went to the principal to complain and the bully confessed to his actions, but Levi is still afraid of this bully and sometimes does not want to go to school.

stillshyat45

04/24/07 01:58 PM In my case, I was the child who got picked on, berated, and harrassed.  I remember having no friends and going home crying almost every day.  There was also little hope things would change because my town had only one school and you were pretty much "stuck" with these same group of kids from age 5 all the way through High School.  I ended up with very low self-esteem (still have it to some degree), social skills that aren't as refined and took a long time to develop and other little personality defects.  The hurt will never go away even as a now 45 year old adult.  My question is, why did I turn my hurt inward and why do boys turn theirs outward?  Is the violent reaction we've seen in these school settings gender specific?
 
drifter2
boomer is absolutely correct! I told my son almost the exact same thing. The teacher was on the bus to and from snowboarding and didn't intervene. I told him the next time they start punching , kicking you on the bus hit the closest one as hard as you can right in the nose! Yep.. got kicked off that bus but NO ONE has picked on him since! Too bad it has to be this way but I guess maybe that's how bullies have always needed to be taught!


My eldest, when he was in the 6th grade (last school year) was cornered in a restroom by a boy who had been bullying him.  The boy, without a word, backed my son against a wall and pummeled him with both fists and kicked him with both feet until another boy came in and ran back out to tell a teacher, who broke up the fight.  My son was so shocked at the whole thing, he never got to defend himself - did not throw one single punch.  Yet they were BOTH suspended.  My stunned and bruised and bleeding son was suspended for getting his ass kicked!!!
 
Tell me what has become of our society?!?!?
 
This school year, the school counselors came into his (and every) classroom to discuss bullying.  They actually told the class "IF SOMEONE IS HITTING YOU, YOU JUST NEED TO BE STILL UNTIL THEY ARE FINISHED AND THEN GO REPORT THE INCIDENT TO AN ADULT."  Yeah, if you can still walk!  What if the guy beats you until you are dead?
 
It is insane nonsense.  We told him to ignore that.  And that he is to avoid confrontation at all costs, but that if anyone hit him ever again, to do whatever it takes to defend himself.  Including, but not limited to, gouging out an eye, kicking their groin with all his might, etc.

motherofalovedone
My son was bullied at an elementary school in a very good neighborhood in Texas (Lamar Independent School District).  Some of the bullying actually happened in the classroom when the teacher had stepped out of the class, leaving the children alone.  This boy had my 11 year old son on the floor, kicking him in the stomach.  We had no success by working with the school at all.  We eventually took our kids out of the school and are now happily home schooling.  My sons are happy, are involved with other kids in lots of activities, and have improved their studies dramatically.  We recently moved and before leaving I learned that my next door neighbor's daughter was bullied by the same boy in the same class.  She came home with hand prints on her face and bloodied legs from being kicked.  Her mother also got no support from the school.  She took her kids out and is sending them to a private school now.  It is especially upsetting because we were paying very high property taxes to support  our schools and we, as well as many other families in the neighborhood, had to take our kids out of the school we were supporting to keep them safe.  Our schools in this nation are unacceptable.  This is a crime!



it goes on like this for 129 pages all about the same
i kinda like the parents and people on here they sound kinda reasonable
and are rather reassuring
i have to say they don't seem to really pay a lot of attention to the wording of the question, ie is your bullied child the next shooter, tonight on Fox news and so on, they just launch into their down to earth stories about bullying? it is interesting really, perhaps the media only filters through our lives and beliefs so much that we pay attention too?
they seem pretty caught up in their realities.  
as you get through a few more pages though they start to repeat some of the prejudice, depressed kids are more likely to do stuff
try crazy as hell, completely insane?
 that guy at Virginia Tech was completely insane,
 he never talked, signed his name with a question mark, stalked violently a couple of girls, scared the hell out of his roommate
who described him as practically catatonic, just sitting on his bed staring not moving or responding to questions, and if he did say anything it seems like it was horrifically violent
he was a hard core schizophrenic with probably a specific sort of very bad depression, i had abnormal psych. that guy was really crazy?
not just some ordinary random person :roll:
the kids at columbine had an army trunk under their beds full of guns and grenades,  these were not maybe sort of situations
little billy is angry because he was bullied or depressed susie or ann with anorexia, how many millions of school kids are there too?
and how many go postal?  it's not that common a problem I'm sorry.

our society is so weird
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« Reply #1362 on: September 27, 2007, 07:46:10 PM »
here is the rest of the article

Avoid Raising a Serial Killer
When Junior does something disturbing, fixing it depends on your actions and reactions
By Mike Zimmerman

Temper your reactions
When something disturbs you about your child—a drawing, an attraction to guns, a violent fantasy—don't outwardly freak. "It's instinctive to respond to images of violence with fear and anger, and to have a desire to suppress them," says Gerard Jones, a media-studies advisor for MIT and author of Killing Monsters: Why Children Need Fantasy, Super Heroes, and Make-Believe Violence. "Think past that knee-jerk reaction and poke a little bit at what's going on. And don't make kids feel that they can't speak up. When you have an angry adolescent, you don't want to make him feel cut off and disliked."

Remember, your kids are not you
Some parents wonder, If these violent images disturb me, why don't they disturb my child? "We want to believe that kids are more sensitive and innocent than we are," says Jones. "Accept that kids go through a callous period, acting tough and insensitive. Just because they're in a different place now doesn't mean they're not going to grow up to share your core values later. A 10-year-old doesn't think like a 30-year-old. We shouldn't ask him to."

Understand what they're trying to learn
"Whether it's in a video game or in real physical play, make-believe is a kid's way of controlling something that can be scary if it's uncontrolled," says Jones. "If you're not letting kids learn that they can control it, then the thoughts and imaginings grow even bigger."

Help them distinguish between fantasy and reality
"In a wild game, it's not that hard to go from having fun to getting angry and wanting to inflict pain," says Jones. "That's one of the functions of make-believe violence: learning how to modulate, be aggressive and conflictive, and take a risk without forgetting that boundary. Which is a pretty good life skill. Kids learn by doing, not just by being told."

LET'S HEAR IT: How do you deal with bullying?
here is the web address so you can go see for yourself

http://men.msn.com/articlemh.aspx?cp-do ... &GT1=10416

Isn't that weird!

in relation to how they act like boys are serial killers and girls are sweet and need protecting another article called "raising daughters" also on MSN goes into this.

boys always play with toy guns and such?
and soldiers and fighting video games,
and are active and physical
If you think about how PV promotes prejudice
and then how I am positive that most of the Guests on here have been staff, and at least one of the regulars,
perhaps it puts the nastier things said on this site in perspective
ie: little Johnny is a serial killer send him to PV with your family insurance
the guests are staff for sure because they say personal things that PV would know, and have since about page 20
i am absolutely positive most of the Guests are PV and at least one of the regulars who sign in is as well.
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« Reply #1363 on: September 27, 2007, 07:54:26 PM »
honestly i don't find the article that bad,
just the question about bullying and Virginia Tech
and of course the heading "Avoid raising a serial killer"
it almost seems like some advertising person
was making the web page for the day and took
a reasonable enough article on child psych
and sensationalized it
sexed it up some in the words of the
Brits in relation to Bush and WMD's
i'm sick of the sexing up of stuff to say the least
its nasty
here's the question again it's so sexed up and sensationalized
poor kids

"While not every victim of bullying will grow up to become violent, events like the Virginia Tech shootings make us wonder if we should pay more attention when children are being picked on. Has your child been bullied before? How did you deal with it? Or maybe your child WAS the bully?"

they should fire the bastard that put together the website!
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« Reply #1364 on: September 27, 2007, 08:44:37 PM »
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i'm sick of the sexing up of stuff to say the least
its nasty
here's the question again it's so sexed up and sensationalized
poor kids

I wanna sex you up!  ::bwahaha2::
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