Peninsula Village

[nimdA]

Life is a dangerous place. That is what makes it so interesting. You are in control of you. Be the woman the woman you want to be. If you think if I'm full of shit then say so. But don't sit around your parent's house expecting much of anything to happen.

I'm glad you are moving out at the end of the semester. I wouldn't worry about having to take time off from school. Lots of people do it for all sorts of reasons.

Moving on from this specific issue:

As much as I like dredging up people's personal lives I do believe that such rehashing of events only creates room for mockery. I suggest strongly that you consider taking the rest of this convo to private message. I say this as I've seen what happens to people in the past on the internet.  Just a word of caution.. again you are your own woman. If you want to tell me to get bent and to go stuff it up my ass then feel free to do that. Might even be theraputic for you.

I also suggest that we get the thread back on track to dealing with PV related issues. I know both Stoodog and Zen have worked hard in the past to keep this thread on track. I'd hate to see it come to a largish squabble fest.

ps. It is ok to feel afraid about moving out. The world is a dangerous place, but not so dangerous that you shouldn't make a break for freedom and beyond. You sound like a geniunely decent person who is willing to work hard. I don't believe for a minute that you won't finish college and move on in life. Just work hard, learn to network, and take care of those people who really do care about you.

[Anonymous]

oh give me a break :roll: I am so sick of people, I walked eight miles through crude, it's heartless, you sound like a PV counselor,  stupid world, your being abused so your the one who gets the crap, give me a break.  It will get done but just give me a break, this is hell

[Anonymous]

This young woman needs to get a grip.
The world is not full of  sexist men just lurking around waiting to grab her and do her harm.

And all this "recording of her mother" is just very strange behavior.
She's 24 years old.
Gonna live in someone's house--by age 24, she should know how to follow someone's rules.

Age 24: move out...support yourself.  Figure out how to go to college on your own.  Colleges don't close.  Take one-class-at-a-time if you have to.

To put it simply:  GROW UP.

[Anonymous]

the only reason I'm posting here is that when mommy dearest calls the cops, because I locked her out when she was screaming, I want some record somewhere of what has been going on.  Not that it will do any good.  I also think it's relevant because, these are the parents who put their kids in PV, my mother is a nut case and abusive as all get go.  I swear I have done nothing here really, and I have this nightmare woman, with complete power over me, I'm bipolar, thanks village and I live in her house, and she's threatened me with both at least twice this week.  Again I'm not bipolar, I'm not even depressed, I just want to finish college.   She's built such a case, kind of like the one when my parents where talking about getting a divorce, where she said my dad hit her, and followed him around for days trying to get him to do so.  He never hit her, I was there, but she swears he did and she filed a police report?  I guess it shows what kind of structure people live under and where the laws go wrong.  I'm moving out though you are right.

[Anonymous]

I do not think it is fair to judge other people's realities, not having lived them yourself. Everyone wants other people to act on what they perceive as the right thing for them, in that specific time in their life. Or to put it simply, because it worked for them, they assume it will work for everyone else. This is kind of like program graduates. They think since they weren't abused in the program, everyone else will benefit from it. Take a minute and ask yourself if you have used this internet forum to vent your frustrations and were you really looking for judgment and advice or just a place that you know someone, anyone, will read it and possibly understand what you are going through. Besides, if we had our shit so together, why on earth would we be posting on fornits to begin with, obviously something is up, in some way.

[sick of child torture girl]

This young woman needs to get a grip.
The world is not full of  sexist men just lurking around waiting to grab her and do her harm.

And all this "recording of her mother" is just very strange behavior.
She's 24 years old.
Gonna live in someone's house--by age 24, she should know how to follow someone's rules.

Age 24: move out...support yourself.  Figure out how to go to college on your own.  Colleges don't close.  Take one-class-at-a-time if you have to.

To put it simply:  GROW UP.

We Are Free, people are attacking you now becasue they in all likelihood ARE staff member from PV (its a guest eh) Im guessin  the who anne...

Normal people know people have difficulties and are undestanding.
Less than normal people are less so.

[sick of child torture girl]

I do not think it is fair to judge other people's realities, not having lived them yourself. Everyone wants other people to act on what they perceive as the right thing for them, in that specific time in their life. Or to put it simply, because it worked for them, they assume it will work for everyone else. This is kind of like program graduates. They think since they weren't abused in the program, everyone else will benefit from it. Take a minute and ask yourself if you have used this internet forum to vent your frustrations and were you really looking for judgment and advice or just a place that you know someone, anyone, will read it and possibly understand what you are going through. Besides, if we had our shit so together, why on earth would we be posting on fornits to begin with, obviously something is up, in some way.

exactly! if any of these folk bore they psyche so nakedly as this girl there would be plenty of things to hurt them with too.

Obviously this girl does need to move out its a horrible situation. But she has obviously had a horrible life and is weakened and having difficulty doing so. Obvuously she has serious issues.

I stayed at home post program BIG MISTAKE. The third biggest one of my life But I was manipulated by the threats of my father, I beleived I could put in an insane asylum at any moment, had serious illness, and was terrified sad in depair......I think its clear she needs to move out. but you can manage to get this info accross without demeaning her! its not that difficult if you have half a heart and half a brain or dont go by the program-"get real" with someone philosophy.

[Anonymous]

She's abusive, ok, not just naggy like a normal mom, she's very abusive.  I don't care you all sound like pv people anyway, or people investigating PV or something.  Insurance fraud, right?  people are jerks, and I was assaulted and then flashed in under a year, it's scary, I've had other bad things happen with guys as well.  I try not to be paranoid then large naked guy pops out from behind a tree, scares you, you know? He was in between me and the car.  It was a nice afternoon.    Nobody has any heart. which just empowers abusive people.  That's reason people's children have no rights.  My mother hasn't worked in thirty years, she had a live in maid for many of them, she had a guy that brought the groceries to the house and she was an abusive horrible mother. If she divorced my dad today she is completely protected, I get kicked out at eighteen after being put in a prison camp and I have no rights.  Half the people earlier in this posting seem to think prostitution, I'm sorry strip clubs, I was told there is a difference, are an acceptable career choice for some girl out of PV.  They actually brainwash the teens in these programs, give me a break.   My mother is an adult, and has been all along, why doesn't she have to take any responsibility for any of her behavior, and why doesn't she have to work two jobs, live in a bad neighborhood and go to college while abusive people throw rocks at her?  Hmm because she married well?  I have to take responsibility for something that happened at fourteen while she was shopping, as an adult during exam week, ARGH.  I just have to finish this semester, then I can move out, I really wanted to take enough courses to graduate next year though.

[Anonymous]

the world is full of sexist men waiting to grab you, are you male or just ugly?  That's as mean as I get, many men are very nice.  How old are you?  As a young women I get hit on all the time, the sexual harassment in the college, wow the way the kids talk, I know it is not meant to be violent against women but I hear all sorts of stuff, retelling stuff on the internet, the sexual harassment in high school was absolutely awful.  I am tired of not being believed you know? Men and women can be very sexually agressive, the guy at the park got on the one path back to the car and did stuff in my direction for a while, the cop asked what I was doing there alone, I am not making this crap up it's real.  I make seven twenty five an hour too, I don't have a lot of money.

[Anonymous]

Isn't this "girl" 24 years old?
She seems to want some advice, and she has been given advice; but continues to reject anything logical.
She's was in a very abusive situation at PV--no one doubts that for a minute.
But remaining in a home environment that is abusive, and prison-like is not necessary, or healthy. Trying to negotiate a living "allowance" from these parents appears to be a wasteless time of effort and energy.
This WOMAN (not girl) appears to be intelligent; and she could be self-sufficient--if she so chooses.
Only she can make the choice: remain in this abusive home situation, and try to graduate as planned---or move out, support herself, and put off graduation, if that is required.
It's her peace-of-mind and safety that is at risk; and only she can make this decision.
Good luck.

[Karass]

We are not free, you're obviously in a terrible situation and it's easy to understand why lots of people here will say run, don't walk, and get out now. The semester is over in what, about a month? If you are strong enough to block out your mother's b.s. and can see a brighter future just down the road, then I understand why you would stay there and tough it out until you get the credits you've worked so hard for since January.

Whatever college you're attending, aren't there lots of roommate referral resources -- online, kiosks, etc. -- where you might find a handful of potential roommates you can meet, talk to, screen, etc.? Yes you're taking a chance moving in with a stranger, but you're taking a bigger chance staying where you are, and I understand that you're not financially able to live alone in a "good" neighborhood.

You have been hurt by your experiences and your suffering induced by those who are supposed to love and protect you. I get it. But you seem strong, intelligent, and motivated. You can get yourself out of this abusive, psychotic hole that has been dug for you. You don't have to just put up with this shit.

In another month or so, I would like to see you change your id to "we are free." Good luck.

[ZenAgent]

How 'bout them Mets?  No, not timely...how 'bout that Alec Baldwin?  there's a real muthaferyer.

[Anonymous]

I tell my psyche because, this isn't my psyche, I am just here, I'm not my mother, or what she says or does to me.  I just am stuck and being abused, which I think is relevant to people out of the village.  I think half of these people are PV too for sure or something like them, blount county cops or something.  I like the guy who pops on, lets all make death threats, I want to be an assassin, give me a break.   I don't care, jerks will do with this what they will, and anyone else will see it for the reality it is.  Again I make seven twenty five an hour and I want to finish college next year and my mother is a complete abusive follow you around all day nutcase. Lot's of people in trouble like to write, I think it is a natural reaction, writing is good if it tells the truth and can maybe help someone else feeling trapped and alone.  I'm in school limbo, I can't work enough in any direction.

[ZenAgent]

I can give you the administrator of PV's e-mail address, tell him what's going on and demand a full refund post haste.  Everyone with a post-PV problem should flood the guy with their issues...

What would this achieve in your opinion Zen? Would he care? Would the programs stop abusing kids for money? Would it make ex program kids' issues go away?

This is not a criticism of your post (sorry i am finding I have to be so careful what i say at the moment) I am genuinely interested in your take on this

No, but it would take it to him in a way this banter doesn't.  This rabbiting about is pointless.

I don't see anything productive going on.  A lot of in-fighting and whining like a bunch of cats.

Post it! I'll take it over to the 4chan's image board and have them do a bit of an email/phone troll on him. Not saying those lazy /b/tards will do it, but if you get them worked up enough they will do just about anything for good old fashioned internet asshattery.

Well, let the shattery commence!  I sent him a fairly civil e-mail, and would you believe?  He ignored me!  Cad...

Let's not post the individual account, but if ya go here http://www.peninsulavillage.org/pv-home.cfm
and click on "clinical staff" you get the individual email addresses next to all those happy, smiley, abusive CHUD's.  The Big Man's at the top...tell him Zen Agent sends his wettest regards...thanks for the attempt, even if it doesn't catch fire...

[Anonymous]

Don't worry about me as far as bitching goes I can take it I am used to it. i know what to expect, I agree on roommates, I have a dog and two cats though but i will work around it.  My parents like to threaten the animals of course, I love them after all.  I also can bitch back although it might be a waist of space.