5th Phase Obs Notebooks

[gduncan]

Anyone remember these?  The chance for 5th phasers to apply their awareness to the group to determine who wasn't doing well, who looked guilty, who was a candidate for splitting...

[Anonymous]

I remember the old obs book. If memory serves me well it was a chance to "talk behind backs" and put a bunch of bullcrap observations about who seemed to be hiding in group and various other straight related lingo.

[beth1222]

I remember them too...made me feel like a "somebody", like the 5th phasers were so much better than the others. Hate to say it, but thats how I felt.  Most of the stuff I wrote in mine was to collect info for the "rip rap" Friday night after Open Meeting.

[shady grove]

My wife and I still call these little notebooks "obs pads". It's shorter than "little flip up notebook".

I was never on fifth, but I remember reporting people to 5th phasers by holding up a c-shaped hand which meant concern. Then they would come and sit on your lap and write down what they told you.

Seems like a powere trip for sure.

[Anonymous]

I never felt like somebody, but I remember thinking what a bunch of idiots the 5th phase crowd was. The whole book was a cry for more education. My fellow 5th phasers could barely read in part due to the wonderful schooling Straight offered them. The point is most of these kids had gone at least 18 months to achieve 5th phase without formal education. (I say w/o school b/c anyone who went to school while in Straight knows how much a sleep deprived stressed out emotionally wacked teenager can retain from Mrs. Soandso's english lit. class.) Not to mention all the leisure time we had to study and do homework. The obs book was a bunch of "I think John Doe is hiding something make sure he is confronted" and that my friends is absolutely how true therapy works. Always follow your hunch more than anything factual. Also remember it was acceptable to stand someone up to degrade and humiliate them all b/c Sally 5th phaser who can barely read learned to detect BS from the therapy guidelines given to her by Straight.  

The obs book what a joke.

The Graduate

[Scarstruck]

:lol: It was all a joke. Glad it made ya feel important though...tsk tsk. Youll pay for it one of these days I promise.

[Dr. Miller Newton]

...and that my friends is absolutely how true therapy works. Always follow your hunch more than anything factual. Also remember it was acceptable to stand someone up to degrade and humiliate them all b/c Sally 5th phaser who can barely read learned to detect BS from the therapy guidelines given to her by Straight.  

You're absolutely right, Druggie!  That IS how true therapy works!  And what is more important , I ask you-- being able to read and fill up your mind with useless information, puerile druggie trivia, and dangerous new ideas that would only be used by your druggie will to insure that you return to the filth and depravity of your past, or the shining gift of Awareness, (made possible by the beneficial techniques that I first practiced in Straight, Inc. and later perfected at KIDS) a quality that can be used again and again to insure that twisted, chemically whacked teenagers don't descend into the Hell of the druggie lifestyle, with its inevitable eschaton of DEATH, JAIL, OR INSANITY?  Only a fool would choose education over the restoration of their sanity.....

[Anonymous]

Reread the post...it said "I never felt important" I think in response to the 2nd post where Beth I think said she did feel better than the other phasers.

But then again any blanket threat is OK for you to throw around right? Even if it doesn't make sense...OK we will all pay someday...whatever. All b/c you don't agree? Arrogant much?

[beth1222]

Pay for what?  The insane bullshit that I was forced to buy into as a 15 year old?  After being forced to stay in a treatment program for over 2 years?  It really pisses me off when I run into people who believe that if you don't think or believe the way they do then you are wrong...just like when I was there.  I am so sorry that my survival skills were different than yours.  I did not get out until I was almost 18 and I did what I had to to get there.  I never restrained anybody, never physically attacked anybody, hell I got in trouble because I was not confrontational enough.  If being a 5th phaser was all I had to hold on to for my self esteem at the time then I did it.  God forgive me for buying into the bullshit and being young and not knowing any better...if you did not sacrifice yourself and stood your ground then you are (obviously) a better person that I! (Can you sense the sarcasm??)  Bottom line...they convinved me that I was raped, molested, etc. and it was all my fault and I bought into it hook, line, and sinker.   :flame:

[Withdraw]

[ This Message was edited by: Withdraw on 2005-09-22 23:24 ]

[beth1222]

I already read it, and I agree with you.  I don't think that because I dealt with things differently than others (and probably still do) makes my experience any better or worse than others.  Right, wrong, or indifferent...it was just the way I knew to deal.

[mental torture made me li]

15 to 18? You were in there a really long time, Beth 1222, you entered young and were imprisoned in a weird place during important formative years. I could not possibly fault you for feeling any certain way while you were in there, or for anything you did.

Regarding the "obs notebooks" and what someone was saying about having "hunches" that someone was lying, I think that is a big part of the brainwashing/cult thing, that the ones in authority claim to have secret knowledge about you.

I think I picked this up and had a really hard time with people afterward because I was always reading hidden thoughts they had (I thought I was), or being paranoid that they KNEW something that I had not said out loud, or could see into how I felt.

[shady grove]

People, people. Please remember some are sicker than others on here. Get angry if you want, but letting it go and moving on is a LOT easier around here. You are gonna read alot of intentionally inflammatory, bombastic even threatening posts. It helps me to have sympathy for the writer.

[Sophie]

There are two different things (originally) being spoken about here.

1.  Obs book for 5th phasers.  A book on the "fifth phase desk" that we (as fifth phasers) were required to write in several times a week.  We were supposed to write about ourselves mostly.

2.  Little obs pads that anyone who stood on the side of group had to write concerns to send up the chain of command.

As for the rest of the blah blah about power trips etc..lets remember that the kids who were "rappin and scratching" or "writing and talking" or just friggin on fifth phase didn't invent the program, they just relented to it.  I don't know why I am still amazed that the narrow mindedness of other human beings, it kind of makes me sick.

 ::puke::

[Scarstruck]

On 2004-10-27 19:20:00, Sophie wrote:

"There are two different things (originally) being spoken about here.



1.  Obs book for 5th phasers.  A book on the "fifth phase desk" that we (as fifth phasers) were required to write in several times a week.  We were supposed to write about ourselves mostly.



2.  Little obs pads that anyone who stood on the side of group had to write concerns to send up the chain of command.



As for the rest of the blah blah about power trips etc..lets remember that the kids who were "rappin and scratching" or "writing and talking" or just friggin on fifth phase didn't invent the program, they just relented to it.  I don't know why I am still amazed that the narrow mindedness of other human beings, it kind of makes me sick.



 ::puke:: "

Im just saying that theres gotta be alot of bad karma coming. I mean everyones an individual but Im sure each of you has a newcomer that wants to kill you....