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« Reply #15 on: August 07, 2004, 11:14:00 PM »
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On 2004-08-07 19:53:00, Anonymous wrote:

" As someone who was IN a similar program, many years ago, and benefited from it greatly, I will let you know that most of the posts I've read here are very child-like, vengeful and some authors could pass for mentally ill.   This Bradbury has been an activist for almost 20 years, and what does he have to show for it?  I've never even heard of this "cause" til someone told me about this site last week.  I think most people would think many of you are just a bunch of disgruntled druggies who are still pissed that you were put in a drug program as a teen, and have never willingly accepted any help that you need.  (Kids did not GO to these programs for being a little problematic -- face it).  If you really want to make a difference,  get involved with children organizations that help prevent kids from becoming "troubled teens", or better yet, form your OWN organization to make a POSITIVE difference in your community.

  If all these founders and staff that you so dispise were placed on an island somewhere to die, that would not "bring you to a better place" with yourself.  People have to look inside themselves and make the changes there. Go, be healthy and find your inner peace. (and yes - I expect to get a "fuck you" or "your brainwashed still " responses -- that appears to be typical here)."



Okay, what's your angle here? You didn't post that out of the goodness of your heart (LOL), You have some kind of agenda and I for one would like to know it, are you pumping Melvin?? Pardon the pun...
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« Reply #16 on: August 08, 2004, 11:45:00 AM »
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When people write stuff like bringing harm to those "war criminals", i.e., those responsible for abusing and harming us while at Straight, Inc., it hurts our credibility as a whole and makes us look foolish.


It's not surprising that you would feel that way, Rich, being a war criminal yourself.
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« Reply #17 on: August 08, 2004, 03:55:00 PM »
Hey Anon that is grafeful to have been spit on, yelled at, degraded, etc.  I formed my own organization  http://www.pornjunkyusa.com  
We need people to spit on and degrade for our video.  If you volunteer it will help your soberity.  So shoot me an e-mail or PM and we'll get busy kicking your ass for our profit and your soberity. :lol:
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« Reply #18 on: August 08, 2004, 06:37:00 PM »
Hey anon - I think you are very misguided and totally uninformed.  Many many of us that post on this site make a diff.  I was not a bad kid, nor did (or do )I have a drug problem.  Give me an email at [email protected]


Obviously, you weren't in straight.


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« Reply #19 on: August 08, 2004, 07:03:00 PM »
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On 2004-08-08 12:55:00, Reagan Youth wrote:

"Hey Anon that is grafeful to have been spit on, yelled at, degraded, etc.  I formed my own organization  http://www.pornjunkyusa.com  

We need people to spit on and degrade for our video.  If you volunteer it will help your soberity.  So shoot me an e-mail or PM and we'll get busy kicking your ass for our profit and your soberity. :rofl:  :rofl:  :rofl:

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« Reply #20 on: August 08, 2004, 07:18:00 PM »
Reagan, Mike, Ginger, you guys are obviously blinded by your anger, since you totally misunderstood me. I think Straight was terrible. I also think that the war criminals, including Bradbury, should be held accountable for their crimes. Perhaps his good deeds could be considered by the judge during the sentencing phase.

Why are you so eager to get my email address anyway?
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« Reply #21 on: August 08, 2004, 07:55:00 PM »
Richard Bradbury has taken upon himself a life sentence of restitution.

What have you done lately?

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« Reply #22 on: August 08, 2004, 07:58:00 PM »
Sorry anon - I get upset when I think of children being abused today.   Is that wrong?  Not in my world.  And, yes, I do contribute to my community.  

The reason I wanted for you to email me is not to get your email address (my, your a bit paranoid aren't you), but to ask you some questions and not have to wait for you to get around on the fornits site.   My main question why do you think Richard is a war criminal.  He helped me see the light so to speak.  Please, enlighten me anon.  

Hey, all I want is for Sembler, et al to held accountable.  That is fair.
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« Reply #23 on: August 09, 2004, 12:01:00 AM »
Do you think anon takes it up the ass? How about getting peed on? or even scat? I have a plunger in my bathroom that needs to be put to good use, someone should bring him over by the belt loops. God damn this is going to be a great video. Can I have your money anon? I will even throw in a castration scene.

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« Reply #24 on: August 09, 2004, 03:25:00 AM »
yawn

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« Reply #25 on: August 09, 2004, 07:10:00 AM »
Animals, what's you beef with Richard?
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« Reply #26 on: August 09, 2004, 08:25:00 AM »
Mike, I would like to see *all* those responsible held accountable. Richard Bradbury was a member of the Straight Inc. staff. Why should he be able to go without answering to the abuses he committed? If Saddam Hussein where to spend a few years championing the Shi'ite cause, would he suddenly be able to be forgiven for the millions of them that he slaughtered? I realize this is an extreme example, but if Bradbury is going to say, "Let the law work.", then he should not be excused for the things he did to contribute to the attrocities at Straight.

It seems that you people are not willing to do what it takes to allow justice to truly be served. You want to try to solve this in the civil courts, but there is no statute of limitations on criminal acts in the state of Florida. So why aren't you trying to get these people prosecuted for their *crimes*? I have pondered this question for quite some time. At first I thought it was because you are listening to the money-grubbing trial lawyers. But then I realized that many of you are also guilty, and maybe you just don't want to own up to the crimes that you have committed.

This is not something that is unique to the Straight case. For instance, there is a woman who posts frequently on these forums. She put her child son in an abusive program. When she removed him, he was covered with bruises. Instead of immediately going to the police and having the offenders arrested, she began collecting evidence for a civlil case. The only reason I can come up with that she didn't persue criminal charges, is that she was afraid of being implicated herself. I have seen several such examples.

Until *all* of the parties responsible for this crap agree to be held accountable, it is going to continue to go on. This means that the staff, the parents, the doctors, the cops, and anyone else involved, needs to come forward and take what may be coming to them. If they are indeed remorseful, and they are willing to work with the proper authorities, I'm sure there will be some leniency.

I just feel that the path you folks are taking, by persuing this soley in the civil courts, is the wrong one. The law can and will work, but only if you do the right thing and own up to your crimes.  There seems to be a lot of lawyers who stand to make millions from this sort of thing. Their attitude of hush-hush, unorthidox investigative techniques are only serving to hurt your cause. They have also been using Progam-like tactics to extract information from victims of abusive programs and some of these people have had serious PTSD episodes as a result of it.

Perhaps I started off on the wrong foot her by not asking the venerable Bradbury to grace me with the opportunity to kneel before him and kiss his ring.
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« Reply #27 on: August 09, 2004, 08:50:00 AM »
But, I still disagree with what you are saying.  We have been trying (or at least I have and I know of others) to get a law firm to represent us against Sembler, et al, bot civil and criminal.   I am not in this for the money.  I make a very very good living (I am a partner in a land planning, development and construction company.   I don't need a settlement from the Semblers.   We started a not for profit (see
http://www.safetyintl.org) to try and let folks know about the dangers of harmful treatment programs.   We also started it because if we ever do get a settlement of some kind, I'd like to take that settlement and set up thru SAFETY a trust fund to provide funds for counseling for the people that were in straight.

And, anon - I think there is a big difference between the peer staff (ie Richard and others) and the adults that ran the program.  If you can not, then you are blinded by your emotions as well.

I was never on staff, I can admit to any of the "crimes" that I committed.  My crimes by straight standards were pretty low.  Typical oldcomer shit, but no way near how I was treated as a newcomer.   I facilitated the long hours  adn belt looped kids.  That was wrong, I will admit.  So Mr. Anon, I think Richard has atoned for his sins.  I think (for what it is worth) that it is time you did your part to help the "causse".  It is easy to sit at a keyboard and tyhpe out what is wrong...quite another to actually do something to make things better.   Ginger, Wes, Richard and others actually do stuff to make the world a better place.  We could use all the help we can get...now is the time for you to step up.

Make up an email address and drop me a line.   Mine is [email protected]


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« Reply #28 on: August 09, 2004, 08:51:00 AM »
Forgot to log in, above post is mine.
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« Reply #29 on: August 09, 2004, 10:49:00 AM »
Anon, you're mistaken about something. No one that I know of has skipped the criminal path and gone straight to civil. I know that in Sarasota, a LOT of people have gone to the cops and DA first. They even has one DA, James Gardner, who was sincerely interested and put together a lengthy indictment. Never got anywhere, though, after they moved all the kids back up to St. Pete.

The trouble with getting criminal proceedings going against these programs is that the cops are 1) complicit and 2) they don't see anything wrong w/ it.

Same w/ CYS (formerly HRS) You can go ahead and make a copmplaint. Just see if it goes anywhere. You can get together w/ a bunch of friends and recent victims and support the same complaints. Just see if it gets anywhere.

That's why the very FIRST amendment to our Constitution (Bill of Rights) includes freedom of the press. When the executive, judicial and legislative branches fail, we have the IVth Estate of government; our free press.

And, not to put too fine a point on it, but this is very quickly getting down to a use it or lose it proposition. Just look into media conglomeration as a political topic to see what I mean.

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