Man-oh-man! HOW did I miss this thread?!!!
I thought you people were talking about the movie and I never noticed how long it got or even bothered to read it.
But wow! It was really interesting for 17 or 18 pages before it dwindled into a brief "I just" thread.
So you want "proof" Greg? Well gee - let's see what I can remember from 20 freaking pages?!!
The flood debate went on for awhile - the only thing I can add to this is that show - with Leonard Lemoy, 'In Search Of.' They found the Ark in Turkey on the mountain the Bible says it came to rest on: Mt. Ararat (probably spelled wrong by me) and they even got a piece of wood and tested it for age - and it's old :lol: - seriously though, it's old enough to qualify.
Okay - what else? OH! Josephus. He's an historian who lived in the olden days - he was an official Roman historian and he has statements from the Governors and (mayors and - whatever the Roman leaders of provinces and what-not were called) - that are mentioned in the Bible - discussing Jesus and his followers and his crucifixion - and even some time after said event. Go to the library and get the book. I believe I have the publication info. in a box upstairs if you need more. But that's authentic people who lived, who can be verified, etc. That's why they say the Bible can be used as an historical document, because where we say June 4, 2004 - they say, Joe Blow in the town of One in the county of Two in the state of three in the country of four - only they name the people who oversee those regions - which gives you a chain of evidence and a reality of authenticity and political/historical documentation. Get the book from the library - you'll see your "evidence" - at least for matching what the Bible says to what documented history says.
And what else? Oh! The Dead Sea Scrolls - also tested - also old enough and authenticated by multiple reknown archeaologists (spelling?) I could have sworn the Biblical A. Review and Time or Newsweek or somebody like that both did articles on the Scrolls - as well as the burial box they found recently. But the Scrolls are authentic - and they match the book of - Isaiah, I believe - exactly.
And then there's Biblical prophecy that's being fulfilled right now in the news - but, I digress.
I guess what it comes down to, Greg is that it really is your own personal quest. I certainly don't want to debate with you :lol: but - aren't you in Florida? I just mentioned a ministry in St. Pete tonight. Godsnews .com or org or net I don't know but they could debate you intelligently. I bet they'd at least challenge you intellectually.
Well - that's my two cents. You wanted "proof" and I think Josephus is more along the lines of what you're looking for evidence man! Happy hunting!
Oh - and Scott David was it? Will you e-mail me? I'd like to chat with you!