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« on: October 29, 2003, 02:47:00 PM »
You Might Be a Fascist
by Russell Madden
Fascism: a political-economic system in which citizens retain title to their property but in which the government determines how that property may or may not be used.

You might be a fascist if you . . .

. . . believe that the proper way to decide whether a casino should be built in your hometown is to vote on the idea.

. . . object to individuals gambling in their homes . . . unless they're playing the state-run lotto.

. . . think that your neighbor needs the blessing of the historical commission in order to renovate his aging home.

. . . feel the urge to report the guy down the street who has a painting truck parked in his drive but no orange building permit stuck to a front window.

You might be a fascist if you . . .

. . . experienced a sense of glee when Microsoft had to spend millions in legal fees and was convicted of monopolistic policies.

. . . see nothing wrong with your city government awarding a single cable franchise while those guys who sell dishes must charge extra to customers who wish to receive local broadcast channels.

. . . are grateful that the FCC dictates to cable and phone providers how they can do business because you are afraid that otherwise the big media companies would have too much power.

. . . would rather have the government pass a law and set up another bureaucracy to restrict telemarketers than spend fifty bucks of your own money to purchase a screening device.

. . . do not object when others are forced to pay more for their goods so you can earn a higher income while your trade restrictions put other citizens out of work.

You might be a fascist if you . . .

. . . nod in agreement that individuals must show proof of identity in order to open a bank account because otherwise the terrorists will win.

. . . don't object to money laundering laws that make snitches of your banks so the drug dealers and the terrorists won't win.

. . . never complain about airport security checks and bag screening and weapon confiscation in order to keep the terrorists from winning.

You might be a fascist if you . . .

. . . tremble at the thought that the person sitting next to you in the restaurant might be carrying a gun without a license.

. . . want to eliminate and confiscate all guns in private hands in order to be safe since guns cause violence, unless the cops are the ones carrying the guns.

. . . applaud extra taxes on guns and ammunition, prohibition of sales between private parties, licenses for gun dealers, limits on the number of firearms someone can own or buy, and bans on brass knuckles, nunchucks, pen knives, big knives, pepper spray, stun guns, sword canes, or anything else that can be used to defend against a criminal.

You might be a fascist if you . . .

. . . laughed when an aging hippie comedian who sold drug paraphernalia via the Internet was thrown in jail but thought a well-known talk show host addicted to painkillers should receive rehab.

. . . accept the widespread drugging of young boys but recoil in horror from the thought of adults receiving pleasure or relief from illicit drugs.

. . . champion zero tolerance for kids who bring toy soldiers to school but think the heroes at Ruby Ridge and Waco got what they deserved when they were promoted for killing women and children.

You might be a fascist if you . . .

. . . think that taxes are the price we pay for civilization.

. . . smile when the rich have to pay an even greater proportion of taxes than they do now.

. . . kid yourself that Social Security and Medicare taxes are investments or premiums rather than a way to pay for more welfare for old people.

. . . maintain that you have a right to health care, housing, retirement income, food stamps, or government-guaranteed student loans.

You might be a fascist if you . . .

. . . squint your eyes at the idea of parents educating their children at home.

. . . want child-free people to pay for your offspring's schooling because everyone benefits.

. . . question the ability of parents to decide what their kids should study, whether those youngsters should go to school, at all, or how they should learn to make their own ways in the world.

You might be a fascist if you . . .

. . . seek assistance from the government to protect you from your own mistakes.

. . . ask the government to protect other people from what you believe are their own mistakes.

. . . abhor the thought of foreigners flooding your country and taking jobs you don't want at wages you would refuse to accept.

. . . contend that you have a right to a job but an employer does not have the right to fire you because he doesn't like the fact that you're a woman, a racial minority, fat, or handicapped.

. . . think SUV's should be banned, seat belts and airbags required, gas mileage minimums enforced, gasoline formulations determined by the feds, and that more money should be spent on light rail systems that no one uses.

You might be a fascist if you . . .

. . . see all lawyers as heroes.

. . . hope to win the lawsuit lottery.

. . . refuse to accept that legal questions can be properly answered by anyone other than a state-accredited lawyer.

You might be a fascist if you . . .

. . . like the notion of mandated low-flow toilets and shower heads but see no problem with subsidized water so farmers or residents can work and live in deserts.

. . . rejoice that grease monkeys can no longer put Freon in your air conditioner.

. . . sneer at anything smacking of price gouging during disasters such as floods or hurricanes and would rather have shortages of goods than see someone make more than what you believe is a fair price.

You might be a fascist if you . . .

. . . promote the idea of the government owning even more wilderness land.

. . . are appalled that oil companies might drill offshore for natural gas.

. . . wonder what all the fuss is when homeowners are forced to abandon their houses in the woods when the government destroys the access roads.

You might be a fascist if you . . .

. . . support sending our troops to a foreign country that poses no imminent threat to us in order to liberate the natives and engage in nation-building.

. . . declare that foreign aid helps the average citizens of those countries that receive it.

. . . want others to pay for your humanitarian impulses.

You might be a fascist if you . . .

. . . would rather police focus their efforts on arresting ticket scalpers and prostitutes than on tracking down, convicting, and incarcerating violent criminals.

. . . want to impose your moral code on strangers.

. . . itch to make other people act as you believe they should act.

. . . do not accept that we still have involuntary servitude in this nation.

You might be a fascist if you . . .

. . . operate from the premise that morality is relative.

. . . condemn logic, reason, and objectivity as tools of white male oppression.

. . . equate non-coercive choice and actions of which you disapprove with fascism.

You might be a fascist if you . . .

. . . object to the examples in this essay.

. . . think you are free.


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See Russ Madden's articles, short stories, novel excerpts, and items of interest to Objectivists, libertarians, and sci-fi fans at http://home.earthlink.net/~rdmadden/webdocs/.

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from The Laissez Faire Electronic Times, Vol 2, No 42, October 27, 2003
Editor: Emile Zola     Publisher: Digital Monetary Trust
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« Reply #1 on: November 24, 2003, 01:15:00 PM »
a rather bleak outlook on life huh?  Just go move to another part of the world and see that alothough our system is pretty fucked up, It is a hell of a lot better than any other government our there.  You should get a grip.  My ungrateful friend.
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« Reply #2 on: November 24, 2003, 01:26:00 PM »
Don't take my word for it, see what Tommy Franks has to say about it:

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Gen. Franks Doubts Constitution Will Not Survive WMD Attack

John O. Edwards, NewsMax.com
Friday, Nov. 21, 2003
Gen. Tommy Franks says that if the United States is hit with a weapon of mass destruction that inflicts large casualties, the Constitution will likely be discarded in favor of a military form of government.
http://www.newsmax.com/archives/article ... 5048.shtml

Here's what burns my ass about it, though...

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?It means the potential of a weapon of mass destruction and a terrorist, massive, casualty-producing event somewhere in the Western world ? it may be in the United States of America ? that causes our population to question our own Constitution and to begin to militarize our country in order to avoid a repeat of another mass, casualty-producing event.


Bullshit! It's not the population outside the Beltway who question our own Constitution and cry for militarization. It's a poorly manufactured consensus; just another one of those great big lies that they hope, if told often enough and loud enough, will be accepted as truth.

You cannot simultaneously prevent and prepare for war.
--Albert Einstein

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« Reply #3 on: November 24, 2003, 01:36:00 PM »
If a WMD is detonated in this country, we will have much bigger problems than anyone can possibly foresee.  If the country survives, we will insanely attack anyone who was remotely connected to the assault and then life as you and I know it will more than likely cease to exist.  However when and if society regenerates, we will have something very similar to our current system in place.  Don't you think?

(Can you imagine the crime and murder and suicide that would come about as a result of such devastation??)
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« Reply #4 on: November 24, 2003, 06:33:00 PM »
Well, when asked what type of weapons would be used for WWIII, Einstein said he didn't know but that WWIV would be fought with rocks and sticks. I tend to agree with him.

In all the bedlam and anarchy that would probably follow a terrorist attack on the scale of, say, Heroshima, it would be a whole lot easier for us to pull ourselves together without the added complication of having to duck and dodge own government, don't you think?

A free man must be able to endure it when his fellow men act and live otherwise than he considers proper. He must free himself from the habit, just as soon as something does not please him, of calling for the police.
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« Reply #5 on: November 24, 2003, 09:45:00 PM »
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http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/com ... 7051.story

Speculations on the Origin of Human Intelligence: "In defense of the Pygmies, perhaps I should note that a friend of mine who has spent time with them says that for such activities as the patient stalking and hunting of mammals and fish they prepare themselves through marijuana intoxication, which helps to make the long waits, boring to anyone further evolved than a Komodo dragon, at least moderately tolerable. Ganja is, he says, their only cultivated crop. It would be wryly interesting if in human history the cultivation  of marijuana led generally to the invention of agriculture, and thereby to civilization.
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« Reply #6 on: November 25, 2003, 11:18:00 AM »
Not that I accept this as true, but. . .

There are some saying that 9-11 was a goverment action; designed to make the American people more open to the idea of goverment survelence; as well as more willing to march into the East as aggressors; as this will eventually benifit the oil industry.

An intresting and compelling argument is made.

I am currently reading a little book that explains how close we came to a military cue during the Nixion years.

It is the same every where, it seems - the common or lower members of the order must never know the truth, although they must Think that they do.
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« Reply #7 on: November 25, 2003, 12:40:00 PM »
Interesting topic.  But I will say this.  If we destroyed the WTC ourselves "on Purpose".  I'm moving!!  I actually refuse to believe that one because it is just way too sick and way too scary!
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« Reply #8 on: November 25, 2003, 12:58:00 PM »
I don't know who actually pulled off the demolition. Doesn't really matter, though, whether our government actually did the deed or just stood by and let it happen. That much is obvious. They never scrambled the fighters till like 20 min before the Pentagon was hit, over an hour after the first hijacked plane went off course. Why the departure from routine?

Then there was the PATRIOT Act, 400 pages, already written before the event and rammed through Congress within two days after minimal communications were restored after the Anthrax scare. Hmmmmm....

It's not the least bit out of the ordinary for government to take advantage of tragedy, maybe even help it along some, in order to expand their power. Remember the Lucitania, Gulf of Tonkin, Oklahoma City Bombing. Why did FBI withhold from the courts and public 4,000 pages of surveilance and investigation on Timothy McVeigh? And why was NPR the only news source that seemed to understand just how significant that was?

More importantly, how is suspending our Constitution going to stop angry, desperate people from lobbing bomb laden virgins at us?

After all, who wouldn't prefer Middle Earth, unless they've been corrupted by a Ring of Power?



http://www.lewrockwell.com/elkins/elkins73.html' target='_new'>December 24, 2002

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« Reply #9 on: November 25, 2003, 02:48:00 PM »
Now you have scared me.....can I have a hug?? :???:
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« Reply #10 on: November 25, 2003, 03:41:00 PM »
Certainly!

Seriously, though. There is nothing new under the Sun. "The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by an endless series of hobgoblins; all of them imaginary."
H.L. Mencken, 1923

The more people realize that and the less they buy into the fantasey that government is the most important institution of civilization, the less demand there will be for Prozac or liquor.

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« Reply #11 on: November 25, 2003, 04:25:00 PM »
Um....I could't hear a word you said because I couldn't get past the massive boobs to the right of your message.  Did you put that there or have I just gone completely crazy.  If you don't know what I am talking about then nevermind cause I need to go seek help.
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« Reply #12 on: November 25, 2003, 04:32:00 PM »
Don't you want a hug???  :razz:

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« Reply #13 on: November 25, 2003, 04:41:00 PM »
LOL.....Yes, and quite a smothering one it would be!!  Thanks!!
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« Reply #14 on: November 26, 2003, 09:29:00 AM »
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the less demand there will be for Prozac or liquor.
I don't appreciate you knocking one of my favorite drugs.  :lol: BTW, I'm a H.L. Mencken fan..and I used to live close to where he grew up.  

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